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**Byte**

Congrats Chancetragedy and all the other Pats fans.

If the Ravens can't take it might as might be the AFC!

It was an AWESOME SB!

Like Coach Harbough said, Any team that beats the Ravens in the playoffs can will the SB.

**Alpharius**

I am pretty happy right now!

I've never watched a game and gone from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs that quickly!

Wow!

**whembly**

interesting stats...

The Patriots stopped Lynch for no gain only 3 times, and never tackled him for a loss.

How do you take the ball out of his hands with 1 yrd to go?

**timetowaste85**

Meh, a team of cheaters won at the last second when it looked like a deserving team was about to snag the win. It was a good game all the way through, really 'edge of the seat', but I wasn't going to be happy if the Pats won. They should have been booted from the Super Bowl. Oh well, what can you do?

Edit: and yes, the Seahawk player attacking the Pats player was an idiot decision. But I know if I was on that team, I sure as hell wouldn't be shaking any Pats hand after the game: they didn't deserve to be allowed to play, let alone win.

**Breotan**

The Patriots simply played at a better level than the Seahawks did. Their offense held the ball for longer and Bradley always seemed to have an open receiver to throw to. Wilson seemed to never have an open receiver and was forced to throw into coverage.

The decision to have Wilson throw on 2nd down will haunt this team for the rest of the off-season, that's for sure.

**Scrabb**

Chance, you are exhibiting sportsmanship worse than the Seattle players that took those shots.

Just, stop. Please.

Speaking as someone who doesn't care for the Seahawks and won't have any delusions of his team making the SB for the next decade.

**dogma**

Breotan wrote:
The Patriots simply played at a better level than the Seahawks did. Their offense held the ball for longer and Bradley always seemed to have an open receiver to throw to. Wilson seemed to never have an open receiver and was forced to throw into coverage.

Then why was the score that close?

Breotan wrote:

The decision to have Wilson throw on 2nd down will haunt this team for the rest of the off-season, that's for sure.

That was a bad call for sure. Not because the call to throw was bad, but because that specific call was bad.

**Breotan**

Pete Carroll is doing a mea culpa about that play.

**Alpharius**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Meh, a team of cheaters won at the last second when it looked like a deserving team was about to snag the win. It was a good game all the way through, really 'edge of the seat', but I wasn't going to be happy if the Pats won. They should have been booted from the Super Bowl. Oh well, what can you do?

Edit: and yes, the Seahawk player attacking the Pats player was an idiot decision. But I know if I was on that team, I sure as hell wouldn't be shaking any Pats hand after the game: they didn't deserve to be allowed to play, let alone win.

To paraphrase a certain someone: You sad bro?

**timetowaste85**

Actually, no. I'd root for whatever team was against the Pats. I just don't think blatant cheaters who got caught deserve to win. Maybe I'm just not following the spirit of the American Dream, I guess.

**Ahtman**

It was a good game with ups and downs for both sides and the final winner being up in the air until the last minute. In the end the Seahawks made a bad call and the Patriots capitalized on it securing their victory. The only real mar on an otherwise tense game was that little fight at the end.

**Byte**

Madden 15 almost predicted this game perfectly.

http://news.yahoo.com/madden-2015-amazingly-got-super-bowl-prediction-exactly-124513100.html;_ylt=A0LEV1rCe89UlrQAaX9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM2lmbWo3BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDUUkwNDlfMQRzZWMDc3I-

If you had money on the Super Bowl, you would have cleaned up if you based your bet on the simulation conducted before the game by Madden NFL 2015. As USA Today’s Brett Molina notes, Madden’s official simulation got the score of the game exactly right since it correctly predicted the Patriots would beat the Seahawks 28 to 24. And that’s not the only thing Madden got right.

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Patriots receiver Julian Edelman caught the game-deciding touchdown pass in the Madden sim, just as he did in the actual game. Brady was also named the Super Bowl MVP in Madden, just as he was in real life. Even more remarkable is the fact that the sim was even accurate about some individual stats in the game.

“The Madden sim predicted Tom Brady would win Super Bowl MVP (which he did), passing for 335 yards and 4 touchdowns,” notes Molina. “Brady finished the game with 328 yards and 4 touchdowns. The simulation missed by only seven yards… The simulation had Edelman finish as the Patriots’ top receiver, with eight catches for 106 yards. Edelman ended the Super Bowl with nine catches for 109 yards.”

This doesn’t mean Madden is some kind of oracle, however — last year’s sim had the Broncos beating the Seahawks 31-28 when in reality the Seahawks destroyed the Broncos by a score of 43-8.

**Jihadin**

That juggling catch at the 5 yard line was "OMG 5 mil bonus catch"

**RivenSkull**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Actually, no. I'd root for whatever team was against the Pats. I just don't think blatant cheaters who got caught deserve to win. Maybe I'm just not following the spirit of the American Dream, I guess.

Cheaters from what? Spygate? The only thing that was done wrong was having the guy recording not in the right spot, and was perfectly legal the year before. The whole call stealing was, and has always been, perfectly legal.
And this deflate crap nonsense? So far, only 1 ball was 2 pounds under pressure, "several" were roughly a pound, and "several" others were either right at the mark or just barely below it. And the NFL has confirmed they didn't even take readings before the game. Messing with the football is something every team does.

So please point me to the "cheating".

And since you dislike cheating, what about Seattle? PED's and talking to players when they were not allowed

**Laemos**

He had to test his pee but wasn't charged so no ped cheating. Deflate ball thing is stupidly and did not change that game.

**RivenSkull**

Laemos wrote:
He had to test his pee but wasn't charged so no ped cheating. Deflate ball thing is stupidly and did not change that game.

I was referring to the multiple suspensions over HGH the Seahawks have had in the past few years, and http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000383876/article/seahawks-fined-300k-for-violating-nocontact-rules

**Ensis Ferrae**

Breotan wrote:
Pete Carroll is doing a mea culpa about that play.

Yeah... I mean, everyone in the world *knew* that ball was gonna be handed off to Lynch, for the TD. There was pretty much no reason to NOT give it to him, as the stats earlier in the thread showed... and yet, Carroll did exactly the opposite of expectation.

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RivenSkull wrote:

I was referring to the multiple suspensions over HGH the Seahawks have had in the past few years

If you really think that Seattle is the only team out there with players, even multiple players doing that sort of thing, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.

Yes, they were the unfortunate ones who got caught, but to think that because they got caught means that theyre the only ones is ridiculous.

**Chancetragedy**

You just expressed what just about every pats fans feels about spygate exactly ensis ;p if people think others weren't doing exactly that they're wrong.

btw bummer about the Seahawks. Super glad the patriots won but that was a BRUTAL way to lose a game. Welcome to patriots fandom circa 2007.

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Fun stat the patriots are the youngest team to win a Super Bowl ever. With an average age of 25.2. Could last night be the start/continuation of another dynasty?!?

**Ensis Ferrae**

Chancetragedy wrote:

Fun stat the patriots are the youngest team to win a Super Bowl ever. With an average age of 25.2. Could last night be the start/continuation of another dynasty?!?

With the way the refs, and rules now protect people like Brady, you could see him for another 5+ years. I'd give him another 2 or 3 years before he starts to really "slow down" in any meaningful way

**Byte**

Chancetragedy wrote:
Could last night be the start/continuation of another dynasty?!?

I don't think so.

I did like #13 though.

**Chancetragedy**

#13?

**nels1031**

Scandal! Outrage! Lynchspiracy!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2351083-report-anonymous-seahawks-player-agrees-with-anti-marshawn-lynch-conspiracy

The moment Malcolm Butler plucked Russell Wilson's pass out of the air, the NFL conspiracy mill began churning.

"Why would you pass on the 1-yard line? You have the Beast at your disposal, and he is starving. Why call a high-risk pick play that's experienced Hindenburg levels of success in recent memory?"

Such were the questions flooding in from all angles after Wilson's sole interception of Super Bowl XLIX—a turnover that flipped the game on its ear and doomed a miraculous fourth-quarter comeback by the Seattle Seahawks. Fans and pundits alike wondered aloud exactly what led Pete Carroll to call a risky, no-read passing play with the Lombardi Trophy on the line and Marshawn Lynch waiting in the backfield.

Most have chalked it up to arrogance or a colossal brain fart, but a particularly tin-hatted cross section of viewers saw larger, non-football reasons at play when the Seahawks deviated from Lynch in the final moments of the game.

The prevailing theory being shopped is that Carroll and the Seahawks franchise had more to gain from Wilson scoring the winning touchdown than Lynch and opted to give their quarterback the opportunity to play hero.

It's a dumb, irrational theory. No NFL coach would never make a business decision with the biggest game of his life on the line. However, at least one Seattle Seahawk appears to have momentarily deemed the notion plausible.

NFL.com's Michael Silver reports that one anonymous (and upset) Seahawks player considered the idea after Seattle's 28-24 Super Bowl loss to the New England Patriots. Sitting in the locker room, the player briefly acknowledged that the pass play seemed like an attempt by Carroll to elevate Wilson into the role of Seattle's savior.

"That's what it looked like," the unnamed player said.

Also: Seriously, Warren Sapp?

Also #2: Manziel should start dating Lindsay Lohan and make a reality TV show.

**Byte**

Chancetragedy wrote:
#13?

Opps sorry man misspoke.

I'm glad to see Gronk, Amendola, and Revis get a ring. Josh McDaniels too, 4 for him. Vince Wilfork is a good dude as well.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Byte wrote:
Chancetragedy wrote:
#13?

Opps sorry man misspoke.

I'm glad to see Gronk, Amendola, and Revis get a ring. Josh McDaniels too, 4 for him. Vince Wilfork is a good dude as well.

I can agree with all on that list, except for Gronk. There's just so much that I see around him that I think isn't quite right.... For one thing, the refs completely ignored his punches in that little tussle at the end of the game. He may not have instigated it, but I hope the league, in its review of the incident takes a bit out of his wallet, at a minimum.

**Byte**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Byte wrote:
Chancetragedy wrote:
#13?

Opps sorry man misspoke.

I'm glad to see Gronk, Amendola, and Revis get a ring. Josh McDaniels too, 4 for him. Vince Wilfork is a good dude as well.

I can agree with all on that list, except for Gronk. There's just so much that I see around him that I think isn't quite right.... For one thing, the refs completely ignored his punches in that little tussle at the end of the game. He may not have instigated it, but I hope the league, in its review of the incident takes a bit out of his wallet, at a minimum.

Eh, he's a jocks jock. Someones gotta do it.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Byte wrote:

Eh, he's a jocks jock. Someones gotta do it.

While true, it's just one example that came off the top of my head... And honestly, I can't completely put my finger on why I dislike the dude so much.

I dunno, I guess I have more of an affinity for liking the "nose to the grindstone" type guys. The Barry Sanders' or JJ Watt types, who by and large keep out of trouble, yet work their tails off to be better.

**gunslingerpro**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Byte wrote:
Chancetragedy wrote:
#13?

Opps sorry man misspoke.

I'm glad to see Gronk, Amendola, and Revis get a ring. Josh McDaniels too, 4 for him. Vince Wilfork is a good dude as well.

I can agree with all on that list, except for Gronk. There's just so much that I see around him that I think isn't quite right.... For one thing, the refs completely ignored his punches in that little tussle at the end of the game. He may not have instigated it, but I hope the league, in its review of the incident takes a bit out of his wallet, at a minimum.

Refs usually don't call offsetting penalties unless the person who is hit first escalates that contact to a higher level (tackling or punching) or removes his helmet. Pretty standard.

He may catch a fine, but I doubt it. You can't hit a superstar. Whether that is fair or not is another discussion entirely.

**Ensis Ferrae**

gunslingerpro wrote:

Refs usually don't call offsetting penalties unless the person who is hit first escalates that contact to a higher level (tackling or punching) or removes his helmet. Pretty standard.

He may catch a fine, but I doubt it. You can't hit a superstar. Whether that is fair or not is another discussion entirely.

I know Gronk wasn't the first one hit, but he was one of the players who damn sure escalated things. (the NE fullback is another prime example, only I don't remember seeing him throw a punch, just a bunch of shoving/grabassing) Most of the guys were pushing and shoving, but Gronk threw a straight up boxing punch at a dude.

**Alpharius**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Byte wrote:

Eh, he's a jocks jock. Someones gotta do it.

While true, it's just one example that came off the top of my head... And honestly, I can't completely put my finger on why I dislike the dude so much.

I think your location gives us a clue though...

And aside from Wilson, Seattle has got to be one of the most unlikeable teams in the NFL, and that's saying something.

Of course, that's actually just how Seattle wants it, apparently!

**whembly**

Alpharius wrote:
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Byte wrote:

Eh, he's a jocks jock. Someones gotta do it.

While true, it's just one example that came off the top of my head... And honestly, I can't completely put my finger on why I dislike the dude so much.

I think your location gives us a clue though...

And aside from Wilson, Seattle has got to be one of the most unlikeable teams in the NFL, and that's saying something.

Of course, that's actually just how Seattle wants it, apparently!

Nope... Patriots tops the most unlikable team for me.

Followed by the Seachickens, of course.