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I don't think DV will disappear yet but if it does I better get ahold of one soon.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Food sucks and there's not enough to eat....

I'm no apologist, but I do like the set.

I suppose Wolf Guard/Termies may see some new rules (ala Dark Angels getting new Knights), but even I can't argue with the price.

I also imagine even though this may be "limited", we'll see the rule book ebay for about $30, Wolves $50, Orks $40?

It's 75 for the set (gbp) you could probably sell one force and recoup most if not all of the cost, if you just keep a bit

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but this is what's been sent to a FLGS. He was only allowed to order 2 sets though, that's it 0_o

"SANCTUM REACH: STORMCLAW

A new combination box that offers your customers a great value deal of approximately 45% added value (not even including all the books that you get for FREE!) The box contains the following:

Space Wolves Army: five Wolf Guard Terminators, a Space Wolves pack (five Grey Hunters or five Blood Claws) and a new plastic character model: Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze

Space Orks Army: five Ork Nobz, ten Ork Gretchins, a Runtherd, three Ork Killa Kans and a new plastic character model: Ork Warboss Grukk Face-rippa

Rulebook: A small format softback edition of Warhammer 40.000: The Rules

Campaign Book: a 32-page campaign booklet detailing the Battle of Blistered Isle, part of the Battle of Alaric Prime. It contains army list datasheets and Formation datasheets for all models in the box (including special rules and war gear rules), datasheets for the Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze and Warlord Grukk Face-rippa (With Warlord Traits, special rules and Relics) and 3 missions based on the narrative content.

Please note this is not like Dark Vengeance! This product will contain two armies and a small rulebook, but this is a one-off box, that will not be repeated, and it will not replace Dark Vengeance!

This product will only be available while stock lasts, and it is not expected to be available for order after the release date, so please order as soon as possible!"

Ok so that's another confirmation that Dark Vengeance won't disappear. Whoever told that guy that Dark Vengeance wouldn't come back was talking out of his ass probably.

"45% added value?"



Nobody calls a spade a flat bladed manual digging apparatus like GW.

 azreal13 wrote:
"45% added value?"



Nobody calls a spade a flat bladed manual digging apparatus like GW.

Apparently they are hiring Chinese ebayers to write their retailer copy now.

 azreal13 wrote:
Spoke to a GW staffer today.

He's not happy. This isn't a starter, Dark Vengeance has apparently disappeared for all time (not just a repack), he's had no indication about how exactly he's supposed to induct new players without the key product he uses for doing so.

Ignoring for a moment the fact that everything else seems to be pointing to DV being re-released with the new rules, surely they could just sell this box as a starter by bundling it with a dice cube, a tape and some templates?

Works out more expensive that way, but better than nothing.

My Blood Angel's are sad pandas.

 ashikenshin wrote:
Ok so that's another confirmation that Dark Vengeance won't disappear. Whoever told that guy that Dark Vengeance wouldn't come back was talking out of his ass probably.

That would be me, and no, take it from me that he sincerely believed what he was saying, this was a GW employee speaking negatively about GW in a store (which, perversely, makes me more likely to patronise the store!) not something I'd expect them to do lightly with someone they didn't know well.

Being an ex-retailer myself, the best explanation I can offer which makes everyone correct is that Dark Vengeance 6th and Dark Vengeance 7th have different SKUs, meaning that Dark Vengeance as we knew it really has disappeared, only to be replaced with a new version which is identical except for the rulebook and barcode. This would mean that the old version would indeed vanish from GW store systems, and if Lenton haven't yet deigned to tell the stores it's coming or upload the new code into the system, then it could very much look like it has been deleted at store level.

While this specific set is of no interest to me, should GW put out similar campaign boxes for one of my existing armies it's likely I'd buy it. It's also possible players thinking about starting a new army might buy a small sampler like this just to get a feel for said army before taking the plunge.

Back in WHFB 5th ed, GW produced several simple campaign sets with some cardboard terrain themed for the specific campaign. They only put out a Dark Angels vs Orks one for 40k. These seemed like good ideas, but perhaps they did not sell well enough for GW to continue in later editions or to add further 40k ones.

 Frankenberry wrote:
My Blood Angel's are sad pandas.

Brother, take your sadness and channel it into righteous rage! For the Emperor and Sanguinius! DEATH!

Maybe GW will be kind and produce a Gehenna Campiagn box, y'know where the Blood Angels and Necrons allied against the 'nids.

I hope they keep doing this kind of deals for other armies too. While keeping dark vengeance

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
To go with what Azreal13 is saying, is that the "new" DV still hasn't appeared yet, and there is still no confirmation on when it will come out, which still creates a big problem for the stores as they have no starter box to sell.

yeah, hopefully they fix this soon. Must suck for store owners pushing gw plastic crack.

To go with what Azreal13 is saying, is that the "new" DV still hasn't appeared yet, and there is still no confirmation on when it will come out, which still creates a big problem for the stores as they have no starter box to sell.

 stubacca wrote:
I
Space Wolves Army: five Wolf Guard Terminators, a Space Wolves pack (five Grey Hunters or five Blood Claws) and a new plastic character model: Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze

Wait a second - OR? so there's not 10 marines, just five???

While the box contents are an odd mismatch to me, at least they are things that are generally useful to a SW or Ork player. Most SW players can use more grey hunters/blood claws and Wolf Guard. Most ork players can use more grots and nobs. They just increased the unit size of Killa Kans, so a LOT of ork players can take more of them (I know I was gonna get a box).

I'm hoping that the paperback rulebook isn't exclusively available through this box set, because I could see this being a cool way to sell more of them. Box the paperback rules with two factions, including generally useful kits, and throw in some exclusive stuff. Release and repeat. I'm NEVER crazy about selling models only in a bundle (if you make a model, sell it to the people who want to buy it!) but the rulebook/small force box set is a cool idea. I hope it works for them. I know I'm getting one, because I like that Grukk model a lot (and I was gonna buy some Killa Kans anyway!)

Wish they'd have done something besides orks since they were in the last boxed set.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 stubacca wrote:
I
Space Wolves Army: five Wolf Guard Terminators, a Space Wolves pack (five Grey Hunters or five Blood Claws) and a new plastic character model: Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze

Wait a second - OR? so there's not 10 marines, just five???

Nah, it's ten, it's the normal box

 Ol'Dirty wrote:
Wish they'd have done something besides orks since they were in the last boxed set.

You mean the one with Dark Angels and Chaos Marines ?

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
While this specific set is of no interest to me, should GW put out similar campaign boxes for one of my existing armies it's likely I'd buy it. It's also possible players thinking about starting a new army might buy a small sampler like this just to get a feel for said army before taking the plunge.

Back in WHFB 5th ed, GW produced several simple campaign sets with some cardboard terrain themed for the specific campaign. They only put out a Dark Angels vs Orks one for 40k. These seemed like good ideas, but perhaps they did not sell well enough for GW to continue in later editions or to add further 40k ones.

 Frankenberry wrote:
My Blood Angel's are sad pandas.

Brother, take your sadness and channel it into righteous rage! For the Emperor and Sanguinius! DEATH!

Maybe GW will be kind and produce a Gehenna Campiagn box, y'know where the Blood Angels and Necrons allied against the 'nids.

This would be epic beyond comprehension and I would buy it, and love it.

Of course if they did this, they'd have to make two mini's, one necron and one blood angel, that you could mount together on the same base in mid-fist bump.

 Frankenberry wrote:

This would be epic beyond comprehension and I would buy it, and love it.

Of course if they did this, they'd have to make two mini's, one necron and one blood angel, that you could mount together on the same base in mid-fist bump.

Don't be ridiculous. Chapterhouse would make the conversion kit.

Quite glad to read that this is not the new starter set...

I've bought the last 3 starter sets.. and dont even play the game!
But this would have turned me right off as a starter; some models I can already buy now, dont need or want, for two unique chars woop

I'l keep holding these pennies tight untill I see this Dark Vengeance II that is spoken of, and hope for some nice shiny unique sculpts that I cant buy already - the existing DV set has so much value in its cool figures that this wolves v orks things doesnt look to have any of.. (Blood Angels v Orks would make my day tho)

Space wolf player here and not impressed. Don't need or want any of those SW models and the orks for me is more of GW making me buy more I won't use, want or need had I been interested in the SW.

 adamsouza wrote:

 Ol'Dirty wrote:
Wish they'd have done something besides orks since they were in the last boxed set.

You mean the one with Dark Angels and Chaos Marines ?

Oops, I think I'm thinking of the one before last.

HairySticks wrote:
I'l keep holding these pennies tight untill I see this Dark Vengeance II that is spoken of, and hope for some nice shiny unique sculpts that I cant buy already - the existing DV set has so much value in its cool figures that this wolves v orks things doesnt look to have any of.. (Blood Angels v Orks would make my day tho)

"DV 2" isn't going to be anything new - it'll be the same DV models an updated rulebook and maybe a new box... So don't get your hopes up

 stubacca wrote:


Space Wolves Army: five Wolf Guard Terminators, a Space Wolves pack (five Grey Hunters OR five Blood Claws) and a new plastic character model: Wolf Lord Krom Dragongaze

Emphasis mine... shouldn't that be AND? The pictures have 10 Grey Hunter models but this little line suggest you only get 5... am I missing something?

All power armour Space Wolf models are the same in that they come from the same kit. GW have chosen to list the contents as 5 Blood Claws and 5 Grey Hunters, when really you could do any combination of those. It's probably because the scenarios and formations in the rulebooks include an army that has 5 Grey Hunters and 5 Blood Claws.

Of course, it could be a precursor to GW Dire Avenger-ing the Space Wolf box, reducing its contents to 5 Marines whilst keeping the price the same. Let's all hope it isn't.

I get being worse as a starter, but there's a lot of whining about being existing models on here that I didn't expect. This gives you starter set prices on the far superior multi-part models, rather than uniformly inferior snap-fit models. For new players, I get it. For Dakkaites, it should be an advantage for 99% of players.

Probably a typo.

At least your getting some good looking models. I dont know anyone who dislikes the SW Terminators and if it is a full box of Space Wolf Pack, your going to get tons of additional bits.

I really feel that the orks probably get left out a bit in the cold model wise. You can only do so much with grots. Hopefully the Kans will have all the shooty options as it sucks to get hamstrung with only a specific load out.

Still not buying it. I'd have considered it if it was AOBR pricing and grubbins. Its nice that its at a discounted price, but I'd rather spend $135 on a single force with a 20% off retailer.

 Jayden63 wrote:
I dont know anyone who dislikes the SW Terminators

I don't like Space Wolf Terminators.

While I enjoy the vikings in space concept, I could never bring myself to field Space Marines with wolf pelts hagning off thier armor.

The plan is to convince a friend to go halves on two box sets and then trade him my space wolves for his Orks.

would of liked there to be more box specific models (like Dark Vengeance had) but it's nice none the less. I don't have the 7th ed books but I knew i would just wait for the box set for the mini rule book. For almost the same price (after discount) you get a portable rule book and a few models of which both armies that i play so a win win in my book.