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 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

Am I correct in that there have been no rumors yet of shield without the axe? As in shield in one arm and a ranged weapon in the other? Really curious about the options on that dread. I'm definitely buying the kit, just need to see how many things I need to magnetize on it lol

That's right.

Garukadon wrote:Front facing only? Sigh.... Okay with everyone having an opinion, but this is getting ridiculous. A storm shield on a dreadnought is awesome. Period. It'll probably get that save in CC as well. This release is amazing, just accept it.

Kanluwen wrote:Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I think people's problem is the idea that its still slow and won't make it to combat due to kiting or statistical rolling (statistically speaking it only takes 3 Lascannons to fail the save). They also believe the Dreadnought will be flanked and shot from the side.

I think the Dreadnought is fething amazing regardless! Even Murderfang looks cool! I could even live with the head if need be but I'd probably use a sealed sarcophagus.


I can see MANY arguements over which facing is being shot at in the near future...

I think with careful drop pod positioning, and several pods, you should be able to ensure that nothing very dangerous can shoot the 'Blizzard Shield'* dread from the side.

*Who knew that regular storm shields stopped working on ice planets? Srs design flaw there.

This probably could be posted in ymdc, but anyways...

I am wondering if I ally with space marines or grey knights, and I use a storm raven, can the space wolf Ven dread with a storm shield hitch a ride on said storm raven? It's an assault vehicle so it seems like the best fit. Same with murderface dread.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

You see, they'll make a special named dread called "Warjac" and he'll have an affinity of Logan as long as he's in his command radius and...

...

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

Arjac is still on the website, just "temporarily out of stock".

If he were gone? He would be "No Longer Available".

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Vasarto wrote:

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Vasarto wrote:
that chariot thing looks bad ass

I believe you spelt "as" wrong

He's an American. Americans don't use "as" like that. It was very confusing when I first moved to NZ. Everything was "ugly as" or "sweet as" but nobody would say what exactly they were comparing it to.

Back to the current topic on hand, I prefer the old Logan. Charging into battle, axe drawn back to strike, teeth bared in a howl of fury. This new guy is looking at his axe going "This is my axe! There are many like it but this one is mine!"

?

Um,

No?

I meant ASS...as in Bad Ass. As in that model looks really cool. Swell, Neat. Its Good.

Where are you from where you do not know the phrase bad ass?

It clearly went over your head, let me explain.

We weren't saying we never heard of the phrase "bad ass", he was making a joke saying you should have meant it as "bad as". See, down here in Aussie and New Zealand, they have this little habit of saying something is "something as" such as, "Oh man, this ice cream is tasty as!" or "That Logan model is controversial as!". Most often here in New Zealand it can be heard in the phrase "Sweet as" meaning cool or alright.

Hopefully that helps clear up any confusion.

oh, ok. I get it.


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Well, I have the old sculpt model. So I will have both of them. Old model is way better but the chariot thing still looks really cool to me.

I am betting the model will cost somewhere around $85.00 for Logan.

....man..So expensive.

 TheKbob wrote:

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

You see, they'll make a special named dread called "Warjac" and he'll have an affinity of Logan as long as he's in his command radius and...

...

No he'll be Hammerfang, no Hammerdown, no HAMMERTIME. with his trusty hammer jammer!

I'm still really curious as to how much power armored Wolf Guard will cost. Especially the 'upgrade' version within the Grey Hunters squad. They used to be 23 points for a WG with a combi-weapon, seems that it going to be at least 28 points now.


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PS - iTunes preview is up. Looks like Bjorm is 220 points now?

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/book/codex-space-wolves-enhanced/id905293970?mt=11

Every time I see the stormfangs, they just keep looking better and better.

Triszin wrote:
Every time I see the stormfangs, they just keep looking better and better.

Yeah, I can't wait to build my kit. I already preordered and payed for mine, but I do not want to go down to my store and pick it up until my next paycheck in 2 weeks or so, That way I can just pick up everything I need in one fell swoop.

Well from what I can see Bjorn is pretty awesome. He comes stock with Assault Cannon (shown on model), can upgrade to Helfrost or Plasma Cannon for free, TL Lascannon for 5pts, can take a Drop Pod.

The Multimelta must be to make the Vendread bog standard. Or for use on another Dreadnought. One of these kits and the standard Vendread will give you most of the options for both, including MM, TL LC, Assault Cannon and PC, as well as Stormbolter and Heavy Flamer and like 6 different sarcohagi.

 Deadshot wrote:
Well from what I can see Bjorn is pretty awesome. He comes stock with Assault Cannon (shown on model), can upgrade to Helfrost or Plasma Cannon for free, TL Lascannon for 5pts, can take a Drop Pod.

The Multimelta must be to make the Vendread bog standard. Or for use on another Dreadnought. One of these kits and the standard Vendread will give you most of the options for both, including MM, TL LC, Assault Cannon and PC, as well as Stormbolter and Heavy Flamer and like 6 different sarcohagi.

Whoa! Hellfrost! For FREE!!!!

SOLD!

What else can take Helfrost besides Venerable Dreadnoughts and the Skyfang or whatever?

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

This new guy is looking at his axe going "This is my axe! There are many like it but this one is mine!"

It took me WAAAY too long to get this reference Nice one

And now I've got the image of Bjorn standing over him booming out "I CAN'T FETHING HEAR YOU MAGGOT!"

Vasarto wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Well from what I can see Bjorn is pretty awesome. He comes stock with Assault Cannon (shown on model), can upgrade to Helfrost or Plasma Cannon for free, TL Lascannon for 5pts, can take a Drop Pod.

The Multimelta must be to make the Vendread bog standard. Or for use on another Dreadnought. One of these kits and the standard Vendread will give you most of the options for both, including MM, TL LC, Assault Cannon and PC, as well as Stormbolter and Heavy Flamer and like 6 different sarcohagi.

Whoa! Hellfrost! For FREE!!!!

SOLD!

What else can take Helfrost besides Venerable Dreadnoughts and the Skyfang or whatever?

There were rumours of Long Fangs getting them but that hasn't panned out and it doesn't look likely. Personally, I just wanted to have a couple for the look and being able to do some kind of icicles hanging from their armour because why not?

Deadshot wrote:

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

This new guy is looking at his axe going "This is my axe! There are many like it but this one is mine!"

It took me WAAAY too long to get this reference Nice one

And now I've got the image of Bjorn standing over him booming out "I CAN'T FETHING HEAR YOU MAGGOT!"

"SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE!"

Long fang ancient might get it

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

Vasarto wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Well from what I can see Bjorn is pretty awesome. He comes stock with Assault Cannon (shown on model), can upgrade to Helfrost or Plasma Cannon for free, TL Lascannon for 5pts, can take a Drop Pod.

The Multimelta must be to make the Vendread bog standard. Or for use on another Dreadnought. One of these kits and the standard Vendread will give you most of the options for both, including MM, TL LC, Assault Cannon and PC, as well as Stormbolter and Heavy Flamer and like 6 different sarcohagi.

Whoa! Hellfrost! For FREE!!!!

SOLD!

What else can take Helfrost besides Venerable Dreadnoughts and the Skyfang or whatever?

There were rumours of Long Fangs getting them but that hasn't panned out and it doesn't look likely. Personally, I just wanted to have a couple for the look and being able to do some kind of icicles hanging from their armour because why not?

It hasn't panned out yet.

We still have a few more weeks for potential releases. We could see the Long Fangs or it could be a flub.

Triszin wrote:
Long fang ancient might get it

Long Fang Ancient? Have I missed something?

Wasn't there a rumor going around about a long fang squad upgrade to take a longfang ancient?

Long Fangs Pack
Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a 'Long Fang Ancient'
Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles
Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though
Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information

We'll know by the end of the week if there are any more non-chariot releases. Three plastic kits is bog standard for a codex, though, especially considering there aren't any Space Wolf finecast kits left that aren't characters.

So we're about a week out and besides the "preview" from iTunes, any more rules leaks lately?

Most interested in Sky/Blood Claws.

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

Spoiler:

 Vasarto wrote:

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Vasarto wrote:
that chariot thing looks bad ass

I believe you spelt "as" wrong

He's an American. Americans don't use "as" like that. It was very confusing when I first moved to NZ. Everything was "ugly as" or "sweet as" but nobody would say what exactly they were comparing it to.

Back to the current topic on hand, I prefer the old Logan. Charging into battle, axe drawn back to strike, teeth bared in a howl of fury. This new guy is looking at his axe going "This is my axe! There are many like it but this one is mine!"

?

Um,

No?

I meant ASS...as in Bad Ass. As in that model looks really cool. Swell, Neat. Its Good.

Where are you from where you do not know the phrase bad ass?

It clearly went over your head, let me explain.

We weren't saying we never heard of the phrase "bad ass", he was making a joke saying you should have meant it as "bad as". See, down here in Aussie and New Zealand, they have this little habit of saying something is "something as" such as, "Oh man, this ice cream is tasty as!" or "That Logan model is controversial as!". Most often here in New Zealand it can be heard in the phrase "Sweet as" meaning cool or alright.

Hopefully that helps clear up any confusion.

Thankyou. This.

Also - are there any more rumours for further model releases? Or is it "just" the new dread kit, the flyers and Logan?

Triszin wrote:Wasn't there a rumor going around about a long fang squad upgrade to take a longfang ancient?

Long Fangs Pack
Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a 'Long Fang Ancient'
Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles
Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though
Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information

I forgot about this, thanks for reminding me.

I'd be interested to see if Long Fangs can take a Stormfang as dedicated transport. Could be a sneaky trick to get one on the board without filling in your fast attack or heavy support slots (can't remember which one it falls under)

If Hellfrost is going to be a common weapon in space wolves. This is going to make for some potent army lists from them.

I am hoping that all dreads can take it as well as Long Fangs and fangs getting stormwolf dedicated. So you can fill up your elites, fast and heavy with hellfrost options. I think it would be good.

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

I've had more fun with Arjac than any other character in the range. He he goes I will join you in your letter writing. I do feel he needs about a 50 point drop in points, but other than that he is just perfect.

 Jayden63 wrote:

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Not only will it probably get that save in CC, but the Blizzard Shield is a CC weapon as well.

I was sitting here going "Man, that's cool! Two Space Wolves characters that use their shields as a weapon" and then I realized what that could mean. So, I make this solemn vow to GW, if you kill Arjac and put him in a Dreadnought and take him away from me, I will write the strongest worded letter to ever cast its shadow of doom upon your door to date!

I've had more fun with Arjac than any other character in the range. He he goes I will join you in your letter writing. I do feel he needs about a 50 point drop in points, but other than that he is just perfect.

Him and Lukas could both drop a few points but that's only because I want an excuse to field them more often

Their price has always discouraged me from fielding either of them sadly.

 fedorarogue wrote:
Their price has always discouraged me from fielding either of them sadly.

Even with his higher than necessary price tag, Arjac has always been a beast on the table and just fun to play. I really hope he stays.