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2014/07/18 19:26:44
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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Was anyone surprised at the Re-Release of Dark Vengence??? That caught me off guard! What do you think???
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2014/07/18 19:27:13
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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 MordorMiniatures wrote:Was anyone surprised at the Re-Release of Dark Vengence??? That caught me off guard! What do you think???
No, this was entirely predicted. Stormclaw was not a Starter set.
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2014/07/18 19:28:41
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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 BrotherOfBone wrote: MordorMiniatures wrote:Was anyone surprised at the Re-Release of Dark Vengence??? That caught me off guard! What do you think???
No, this was entirely predicted. Stormclaw was not a Starter set.
That is not what everyone else said...
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2014/07/18 19:29:34
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Wraith
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I like the new artwork but hate the layout. Almost meme font on commercial product, it would seem.
DARK Vengeance™
I find it at least a bit amusing that they packed in the Chaos Aspiring Champion into the set. I have never seen him sold at the current price point, but I would be inclined to grab him at a cheap price from eBay parts dealers.
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
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2014/07/18 19:33:06
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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Yah $10, Cannot beat that!
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2014/07/18 19:33:41
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Wraith
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Except for the misguided, yea it was. See the White Dwarf from awhile ago:
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2014/07/18 19:35:38
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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 TheKbob wrote:
Except for the misguided, yea it was. See the White Dwarf from awhile ago:
For us Non-White dwarf readers we thought Stormclaw was the new starter set... 
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2014/07/18 19:36:17
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Member of the Malleus
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I knew it was coming, our GW rep told us that the stormclaw was not the new starter. And for our old dark vengeance boxes we will be getting the new small rulebook to give to people.
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I make bad decisions and think they are good.
Team No Bueno
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2014/07/18 19:38:12
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The more sets with softback rulebooks included that get onto the market the better.
It increases the chance of people like me being able to pick up a rulebook for 7th edition.
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2014/07/18 19:41:51
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Kilkrazy wrote:The more sets with softback rulebooks included that get onto the market the better.
It increases the chance of people like me being able to pick up a rulebook for 7th edition.
Bought mine for 11€ 
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2014/07/18 19:42:19
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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Yah, now everyone will be walking around with the "Mini" Rulebook again
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2014/07/18 19:55:09
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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It was also discussed rather extensively online, both when 7th ed first released and when Stormclaw was announced.
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2014/07/18 20:17:48
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Graham McNeil
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 insaniak wrote:
It was also discussed rather extensively online, both when 7th ed first released and when Stormclaw was announced.
Threads like "new 7th starter set" lead me to believe otherwise
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2014/07/18 20:20:22
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Madrak Ironhide
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Yeah, those posts were mis-titled. As you read them people
brought up the nature of the sets.
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2014/07/18 20:32:48
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Laziest starter set ever...
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2014/07/18 21:02:02
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Yepp. Everyone knew Dark Vengeance was being re-released with 7th rulebook and that the Stormclaw was not a starter but a 2 faction expansion to the Red Waaagh! campaign. They also said somewhere that there will be more 2 faction campaigns, so we can expect more limited supply 2 player sets.
Which would be cool. 
What caught me off guard was the addition of the champ in the starter! Now the two forces are more balanced points-wise!
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2014/07/18 21:07:16
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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I now feel bad that I bought Dark Vengeance last September.
Was a busy year for me so I never got around to painting much of it...now they re-release the same set with the 7th rules for the same price AND the aspiring champion as well (but no chappy).
Oh well, that's a first for Gee dubs.
However, given how starter sets work (and how cheap many figs were sold) I'm guessing Chaos players will be able to get their hands on the champ for a tenner on ebay pretty soon.
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2014/07/18 21:45:57
Subject: Re:WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Dark Vengeance is actually such a good set, it deserves to stay. I loved Dark Vengeance.
My one quibble is that the new box art actually looks worse than the old box art to me.  I guess it's all subjective, everyone else probably likes the new art.
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2014/07/18 23:18:47
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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That is not what everyone else said...
Can't be helped when everyone else is wrong.
GW themselves said that DV would be the "STARTER" for 7th ed, complete with updated rules.
Stormclaw was never listed as a "Starter", but a campaign pack box. Yes, they both have minis, and other assorted guff - but DV was the one ALWAYS slated to be the starter.
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2014/07/18 23:23:16
Subject: Re:WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Been Around the Block
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The old boxing looked way better.
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2014/07/18 23:38:36
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Told ya so.
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Muh Black Templars
Blacksails wrote:Maybe you should read your own posts before calling someone else's juvenile.
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2014/07/18 23:42:11
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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Liked the old box art. However being a ork player I wish that Sanctus Reach was the starter.
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2014/07/19 00:14:12
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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What old box art? The old box was just a plain background with the 40k logo on it.
I love the new artwork.
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2014/07/19 00:24:39
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Sneaky Lictor
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Eh, not much of a starter set without a table mat and terrain. A real starter set comes with everything a starter needs for a great looking and playing game, ala DZC. With this set a starting player can play a game on a dinner table with misc. household objects for terrain.
"My Terminators deepstrike behind the giant Folgers coffee can, cinematic!"
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"To crush your opponents, see their figures removed from the table and to hear the lamentations of TFG." -Zathras |
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2014/07/19 00:32:26
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Been Around the Block
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 60mm wrote:Eh, not much of a starter set without a table mat and terrain. A real starter set comes with everything a starter needs for a great looking and playing game, ala DZC. With this set a starting player can play a game on a dinner table with misc. household objects for terrain.
"My Terminators deepstrike behind the giant Folgers coffee can, cinematic!"
If GW gave you everything you needed in a starter set, they wouldn't make as much money. Also, Dark Vengeance doesn't really give you models for a playable list.
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Still unsure what army to choose |
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2014/07/19 01:04:52
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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^ it does for 500 pts
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2014/07/19 04:17:53
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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TheKbob wrote:
Except for the misguided, yea it was. See the White Dwarf from awhile ago:
And White Dwarf also said that ANYONE can use Imperial Knights in 6th edition. We all knew how that turned out.
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2014/07/19 04:22:33
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Huh...
They added a piece.
Well nows I just feel silly having bought my set three days before it was removed...
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2014/07/19 04:24:47
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Davor wrote: TheKbob wrote:
Except for the misguided, yea it was. See the White Dwarf from awhile ago:
And White Dwarf also said that ANYONE can use Imperial Knights in 6th edition. We all knew how that turned out.
And now looking at it any faction can field an imperial knight, some of them just need to stay 12" away though.
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2014/07/19 04:33:36
Subject: WOW, Did not see that coming!
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Fixture of Dakka
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That is why I said 6th edition, unless the WD team already knew about 7th and that is what he ment and shouldn't have said it.
Funny after that comment the Facebook was taken down. Maybe this is why. Not to let out, what was going to be the future stuff.
I am glad DV is back. As someone else said before, I prefer the old artwork, nice, simple. New one is not bad, I guess just have to get use to it.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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