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 Hulksmash wrote:
Oh snap, good catch. Sweet!!!! Is it bad that I'm super excited for the little paintable fighters?

Nope, it's natural!

They had problems with the names on some of the new X-Wing models as well (IG-3000 instead of IG-2000, etc).

 Alex C wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Oh snap, good catch. Sweet!!!! Is it bad that I'm super excited for the little paintable fighters?

Nope, it's natural!

I think they will be a lot of fun to paint.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Interesting, no Tie Interceptor in the Ties. Just the Bomber, Advanced, and Fighter. But Rebs get A,B,X, and Y. Guess that fighter pack is a requirement now

 Alex C wrote:
Hulk - Interceptors are in the top pic at the bottom.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Oh snap, good catch. Sweet!!!! Is it bad that I'm super excited for the little paintable fighters?

Oh wow, I didn't see ANY of those the first time, only the capital ships . That's awesome!

Copying pics over to the new page:

Interesting, so the capital ships in wave 1 are around the 30-40 dollar mark and the fighter packs (although we don't know what is in them) are $20 a piece.

Those Imperial ships are making me VERY excited for the game. Especially if they are dipping into the EU so soon.

I totally didn't see the price placards in the pic, either . Apparently was blinded by the sight of the capital ships

I'm being tempted by this as well. A Victory-I escorted by a pair of Gladiators and TIE Fighter flights? Yes, please!

 RiTides wrote:
I totally didn't see the price placards in the pic, either . Apparently was blinded by the sight of the capital ships

It's okay, that is a natural reaction to seeing those ships.

I do like the Imperial ships they showed, but I am waiting for the full ISD before I really get excited (I know this won't be until wave 2-3, but I can dream ).

 Hulksmash wrote:
I'm really hoping pricing on the VSD/Assault Frigate is $30 like a falcon and that the frigate/corvette/gladiator are $15. With Fighter blisters being $10-$15. That way getting one of everything on launch isn't totally insane. You'd be looking at (assuming different upgrades in the fighter blisters) $225-$235. Which isn't wallet breaking. Bump those costs up $5-$10 each and it starts to get into a different realm.

This would give you two 300pt fleets or so with some flexibility. Fingers crossed since you could get everything for x-wing on launch and play full 100pt squadrons on both sides with them for just $100.

Why would the VSD be so expensive? That's pretty insane for a tiny toy ship. An ISD, sure, but a VSD isn't worth that.

Man, for a fleet battle game, they sure don't want us to have many ships.

yea i guess im not going to be buying ridiculous quantities of minis for this one, going to have to approach it conservatively

I'm very surprised by the ship choices for the first wave, with both of the non-starter shps having only appeared in one source. I can't say I'm displeased with them, however. The Imperial one looks pretty good (though I have never seen it before), and I have never liked the Mk 1 too much (always looked too much like a Nebulon B, probably why they didn't use it) so I am happy to see the Mk II, as it was one of my favorite of the original ship designs from Empire at War.

I think that the choice of ships may be aimed to please fans of all types. The starter ships are aimed at people who don't know much beyond the movies, all being iconic ships (with the Victory being close enough to an Imperial to satisfy most) while the other ships are clearly aimed at EU fans, and could also be a pledge to these fans that FFG is willing to chose even the most obscure EU references in their game (by choosing 2 of the most obscure ships that still have enough visual references to be made).

Though I still have concerns about the ship's comparative power, I am happy to see that the ships other than the CR-90 are close to in scale with each other, making it look like the CR-90 was the only one wildly out of scale and role.

The sad thing is that at $20 per ship, I'd buy a shameful amount of them and hide them in the cupboard next to the cookies I shouldn't have bought either. But $30 for one tiny fething mook ship?

No, FFG, screw you.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The sad thing is that at $20 per ship, I'd buy a shameful amount of them and hide them in the cupboard next to the cookies I shouldn't have bought either. But $30 for one tiny fething kook ship?

No, FFG, screw you.

Looks about the same size as the Falcon and the Firespray from X-Wing, who are both $30.

Since scale's out the window anyway, I think I'll just use micro machines.


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 Happygrunt wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The sad thing is that at $20 per ship, I'd buy a shameful amount of them and hide them in the cupboard next to the cookies I shouldn't have bought either. But $30 for one tiny fething kook ship?

No, FFG, screw you.

Looks about the same size as the Falcon and the Firespray from X-Wing, who are both $30.

The gladiator looks tiny to me.


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Also, the snap fit falcon is the same size and half the price.

I'm not thrilled with the prices, but it's been a while since I saw the price tag on a tabletop game and said "Oh, that's a good deal!" so that's not an FFG-exclusive shortcoming either. The models look good and the game looks fun, so I'll just have to be reasonable in my purchases rather than attempting to recreate the entire Imperial Navy.

I will probably prioritize Armada over Imperial Assault and X-Wing wave 6, though the former will be bought. I do wonder looking at this how much FFG will be taking their own sales since you know with FFG a steady amount of content/expansions will be pushed out for a while at least. A good problem to have maybe, but I can see where it would hurt sales too as people commit to one or the other instead of all three (since "toy money" is a finite resource for most people).

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Since scale's out the window anyway, I think I'll just use micro machines.

With the exception of the corvette, the capital ships look to be in scale relative to each other.

There are quite a few x-wing players in our local area and although I have resisted that I think this fleet based game would be worth getting into.
Also the YouTube clip of the demo game at gencon is pretty good at showing how quickly the game can be picked up.

I'm surprised that they costed the unpainted fighters at such a high price.

Those prices are insane.

Won't be too bad when they hit online discounters.

Hopefully.

I don't think the $39.99 is just one ship, but at worst one capitol ship and several stands of fighters as well as any necessary ephemera. I would ask when I go back tomorrow but they are packed from the start of the day to the end of the day.

$39.95 is for the Assault Frigate Mk II. The fighters are $19.95 according to the pics above.

But we don't know what you get for 19.95.

If a fighter for X-wing with stand, dial and some other tokens and cards was $15 retail, and this pack has 5 or 6 stands of various fighters, their dials and cards and tokens, it really isn;t too bad in my opinion.

I'm really hoping that we are seeing a little jump the gun here, and that the battle group itself with a few more ships and fighters is the 39.00.

Good looking game though, looks like its going to be a lot of fun.

Huh. Barely recognisable ships, high price point, scale issues.

What a weirdly fast fall from 'must have' to 'oh yeah, that exists' this game has taken.

Anyone would think they're tying this crap into a movie released some time next year.

 Grot 6 wrote:
I'm really hoping that we are seeing a little jump the gun here, and that the battle group itself with a few more ships and fighters is the 39.00.

Good looking game though, looks like its going to be a lot of fun.

Look at the pics from the presentation a page back. It looks like none of the capital ships come with fighters, and fighters will be eight stands at $19.95

I think it's more likely that you'll get two stands of a specific type of fighter for the$20. Since you move two stands as one action/turn. Plus them being slightly smaller and I painted I think that is reasonable considering 1 fighter for $15 of x-wing.

Guys, look how much stuff we get in one fighter pack for X-Wing. We're talking pilot, crew, and captain cards, upgrades, and a whole lot of tokens, likely some missions and special rules.

A single ship is not just a painted model, it's everything you need to use it in a variety of ways.

Go look at the gameplay examples and you can see just some of the things that could be included, probably a number of defense tiles, multiple captains, various upgrades.

 Vertrucio wrote:

A single ship is not just a painted model, it's everything you need to use it in a variety of ways.

You mean it's a single ship and a bunch of rules where two corvettes are a match for a VSD. So, it's just a single ship. And some trash.

The rules certainly aren't worth $20 of that $40 price tag. Frankly, I don't want my money reimbursing them for rules I will never play. And the minis are not worth $40 or whatever the price point is.


BFG priced itself into irrelevance with a lower price point per cap ship.


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 Ghaz wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Since scale's out the window anyway, I think I'll just use micro machines.

With the exception of the corvette, the capital ships look to be in scale relative to each other.

Yeah, but just wait until the ISD drops. I bet you it's scaled to $80 long.

 Ghaz wrote:
$39.95 is for the Assault Frigate Mk II. The fighters are $19.95 according to the pics above.

I missed the labels on the first pic when I scanned them the first time when I just got back in and just saw the second picture that was blacked by the B-wing stand that said "something Mark something Armada $39.99". It does seem a bit much for one ship, though I imagine there are a lot of dials, cards, ect. It also makes me think that there won't be as many capitol ships per side as fighters per side in X-wing so they have to sell them for more. It, of course, could also be that they know that people will buy it either way so they charge more.