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 Crablezworth wrote:
I thought this was an interesting image. Even the horse doesn't look too happy lol

Spoiler:

Whenever "White Knights" are brought up, I visualize a Knight in gleaming White armour...stained from head to toe in blood, foaming at the mouth and frantically searching for a new foe to slay like a World Eater / Khorne Berzerker.

The whole thing is pretty shameful. What makes it worse for me is that there are valid points from either side of this canyon, but you can hardly see them from the braying and screaming from the worst elements of both sides. Then lay in the internet echo chamber, and the fact that the news stories on this thing focus on those loud people with nothing of value to say and it is just embarrassing.

Well, if the whole thing is to be believed, the news stories and those who write them kind of have a reason to focus on the vitriol instead of the good the other side is doing.

The only person who isn't mixed up in this gak is dorito pope.



I'm not sure what to think.

 illuknisaa wrote:
The only person who isn't mixed up in this gak is dorito pope.



I'm not sure what to think.

Well come on. His reputation is already gak. Why would he want to drag himself down even further?

TBH selling himself for doritos doesn't seem so bad compared to the rest of the "journalists".

Who is this wonderful Dorito Pope, and does he come in Cool Ranch flavor?

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Who is this wonderful Dorito Pope, and does he come in Cool Ranch flavor?

Dorito Pope, aka Geoff Keighley, was a gaming journalist who was behind the DoritoGate scandal in 2012. Basically he was hyping up for Halo 4, and the product placement in his video (for Doritos and Mountain Dew) was so utterly intense that everyone quickly forgot about Halo 4 and could only focus on the product placement. The interview was parodied in this video;




Which started the controversy.

Yikes.

Thanks for the information!

I thought this was entertaining. Basically it's hyperbole given form, but basically thunderf00t used the same cherry picking/commentary to show what a terrible misogynist joss whedon must surely be.




Again, please don't take this as an attack on joss whedon, it's not, it merely highlights that you can take anything out of context. The example from cabin in the woods, the women shown dancing has been fed chemical cocktail as well as a bunch of pheromones which cause her to act the way she does, the whole movie is basically poking fun at tropes in horror movies. This is highlighted when the skeptical character points out one of the characters is acting like a jock, all alpha male, when in reality he's a sociology major.

This thread is just 20 pages of "My god, bias exists in journalism!"

Geoff Keighley seems like a nice guy. I'm not really sure what your problem is?

Watching EVO 2014 we were inundated with "Baha Blast" comments but who actually cares? EVO ran and was enjoyable to watch despite that. Product placement is kind of what it takes for these things to run and it's been the same with films for years.

 Medium of Death wrote:


Geoff Keighley seems like a nice guy. I'm not really sure what your problem is?

He's not a bad guy (and this was stated over and over at the time). Rather the controversy was about how his interview wasn't even about Halo 4 but about buying Doritos and Mountain Dew, which wasn't Keighley's decision to make.

Product placement is kind of what it takes for these things to run and it's been the same with films for years.

Might want to rewatch that interview. It's more like Halo 4 was product placement, and ad is really for Doritos and Mountain Dew.

 LordofHats wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Who is this wonderful Dorito Pope, and does he come in Cool Ranch flavor?

Dorito Pope, aka Geoff Keighley, was a gaming journalist who was behind the DoritoGate scandal in 2012. Basically he was hyping up for Halo 4, and the product placement in his video (for Doritos and Mountain Dew) was so utterly intense that everyone quickly forgot about Halo 4 and could only focus on the product placement. The interview was parodied in this video;




Which started the controversy.

Oh dear.

XD.

Oh god, his face is priceless.

I know. His eyes are just dead, his face is a permanent scowl, and his voice sounds so depressed. Watching that video it's like he's screaming "for the love of all that is holy I'm sorry, I'M SO SORRY!"

 soundwave591 wrote:
I keep looking at the hate on gamergate, from that tumblr. I keep checking with twitter thinking "no this has to be a over reaction" but it isn't.

How on earth can someone feel like you can tell people to literally feth off or get mudered and be "on the right side of history". Its seriously mind boggling for me

An overdeveloped sense of self righteous indignation does terrible things to people. You really wanna lose your faith in humanity? Read the negative comments on #notashield, shocking how minority voices get dismissed or insulted (uncle toms, house n****rs, whores and a host of lovely other non-PC terms that if a gamer dared use they'd be set ablaze by news media, but apparently being a white girl who didn't get hugged enough as a child makes it okay) when they don't toe the new party line. It's fething creepy. Joe McCarthy would be proud.

Hell the gaming press LITERALLY said games aren't supposed to be fun. While I go chew a tree into some tasteful wooden furniture, I'm going to let the guys at Niche Gamer field that.
http://nichegamer.net/2014/08/so-why-shouldnt-gaming-be-fun/

Side note: If like me you are finishing the exodus from the mainstream gaming websites (Kotaku, IGN, Polygon, The Escapist, et al) that for a lot of us began when they started calling all gamers entitled donkey caves during the ME3 ending thing.... Niche Gamer and gamesnosh are cool.

Wait, they're saying game's aren't supposed to be fun?

Well. They've done it. Just when I thought I'd seen the dumbest humanity could offer, they outdid me. Here I thought no one could ever top my car made entirely of tatter tots thrown out by the Sonic across the street.

Why the heck are they in this medium if they don't think it should be fun?

Not that every game should be fun (Spec Ops, the Line is about as unfun as it gets and I still consider it a masterpiece), but still.

IDK. I read his logic and it's completely bonkers. How is 'fun' a trick of the mind, but 'edifying' or 'progressive' isn't? I mean at the point we degrade one of the most basic of human emotions (joy) to a trick of the mind, what isn't a trick of the mind and why should any trick of the mind matter more than another?

That's just stupid... Really. Seriously didn't think anything would top the 'death of gamers' stuff that seemed to just appear out of nowhere, but reading that rant was just bizarre. It's like he took every complaint about the game industry under the sun (including corruption no less) and said it's all gamers fault.

I think this entire thing has become a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off, but that tops it by far.

Video game journalism is dead.
It is just another form of entertainment.
At least if you come across someone with similar game tastes, that may be a "report" worth hearing.
These people only become important if we pay attention to them, like they matter.
Make this silliness stop, don't give them your time, clicks, views and especially money.
You ignore them, they go away like some mythical creature.

 Talizvar wrote:
Video game journalism is dead.

If video game webcomics are safe, I will not miss anything .


What is this stuff about the ending of Mass Effect 3 that has been mentioned a bunch of time?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
What is this stuff about the ending of Mass Effect 3 that has been mentioned a bunch of time?

When ME3 first released, it received rave reviews from critics, while many fans complained about the game, namely it's ending. It developed into this huge stink about 'false advertising' and 'EA lied to us.' Several critics and reviewers at the time referred to gamers as 'entitled brats' at the time.

Honestly, in that situation I agreed with them. Yeah, the ending sucked. Boo hoo. Get over it. ME2 was dreadful what were you expecting? *raises the blast shields*

There are times I'm glad I'm solely a PC gamer.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
There are times I'm glad I'm solely a PC gamer.

I am glad I am an almost only Linux gamer .


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 LordofHats wrote:
When ME3 first released, it received rave reviews from critics, while many fans complained about the game, namely it's ending. It developed into this huge stink about 'false advertising' and 'EA lied to us.' Several critics and reviewers at the time referred to gamers as 'entitled brats' at the time.

People are weird.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
There are times I'm glad I'm solely a PC gamer.

I am glad I am an almost only Linux gamer .

Truly Tux Racer was the greatest game of any generation.

 daedalus wrote:
Truly Tux Racer was the greatest game of any generation.

How come ON. I have 69 games in Steam, and basically twice that number that I could download from Humble Bundle. And I am playing Strife quite a lot these days. There ARE so good FLOSS games, but really, should you not quote Frogatto instead? That game was very good!

 LordofHats wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
What is this stuff about the ending of Mass Effect 3 that has been mentioned a bunch of time?

When ME3 first released, it received rave reviews from critics, while many fans complained about the game, namely it's ending. It developed into this huge stink about 'false advertising' and 'EA lied to us.' Several critics and reviewers at the time referred to gamers as 'entitled brats' at the time.

Honestly, in that situation I agreed with them. Yeah, the ending sucked. Boo hoo. Get over it. ME2 was dreadful what were you expecting? *raises the blast shields*

I honestly which the developers had stuck to their guns, kept the ending, and said "this is what we felt appropriate". I felt the DLC endings were a cop out, and I knew a lot of people who hated the DLC endings anyway. If you make something, you should stick with your vision, not bow down to everyone's whims. I know a lot of that probably came from EA trying to 180 the disaster, but if the original ending was the developer's vision, then he should be able to stick with it.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
What is this stuff about the ending of Mass Effect 3 that has been mentioned a bunch of time?

When ME3 first released, it received rave reviews from critics, while many fans complained about the game, namely it's ending. It developed into this huge stink about 'false advertising' and 'EA lied to us.' Several critics and reviewers at the time referred to gamers as 'entitled brats' at the time.

Honestly, in that situation I agreed with them. Yeah, the ending sucked. Boo hoo. Get over it. ME2 was dreadful what were you expecting? *raises the blast shields*

I think we discussed this on the mass effect 3 thread.

And its quite funny the reactions in general.

Indeed, ME3 was entitled brats. But one thing I've learned is, people who play one game don't represent people who play another (Or all gamers in general.

This is getting me confused. I should go read that ME3 thread. But I will not, it certainly contains lots of spoilers.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
This is getting me confused. I should go read that ME3 thread. But I will not, it certainly contains lots of spoilers.

Where's your sense of adventure? Ride the lightning!