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2014/09/07 22:50:58
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2014/09/07 22:54:38
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2014/09/07 23:04:51
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
I asked him if the Documentary was available because he defended himself with "We put all the money in the game, made a documentary about it, clearest development ever", and he said I could get it off the official website.
I go and check, $10 for just the documentary.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
2014/09/07 23:06:33
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: 1) They had a kickstarter for Double Fine Adventure, where they raised an ungodly amount of money ($3,336,371 pledged of $400,000 goal). The 400,000 was supposed to make the game, with all extra money going to make it better. Fair enough.
2) They ended up pushing the release date back, and eventually had to release half of the game due to "Misappropriated Funds". Fair enough; Game Devs typically aren't good with money when it comes to making games.
Oh. That is less than stellar, sure. Is it linked to corruption in video game journalism?
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/07 23:09:19
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: 1) They had a kickstarter for Double Fine Adventure, where they raised an ungodly amount of money ($3,336,371 pledged of $400,000 goal). The 400,000 was supposed to make the game, with all extra money going to make it better. Fair enough.
2) They ended up pushing the release date back, and eventually had to release half of the game due to "Misappropriated Funds". Fair enough; Game Devs typically aren't good with money when it comes to making games.
Oh. That is less than stellar, sure.
Is it linked to corruption in video game journalism?
Only if you look at points 3-6.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
2014/09/07 23:13:50
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: 1) They had a kickstarter for Double Fine Adventure, where they raised an ungodly amount of money ($3,336,371 pledged of $400,000 goal). The 400,000 was supposed to make the game, with all extra money going to make it better. Fair enough.
2) They ended up pushing the release date back, and eventually had to release half of the game due to "Misappropriated Funds". Fair enough; Game Devs typically aren't good with money when it comes to making games.
Oh. That is less than stellar, sure.
Is it linked to corruption in video game journalism?
Possibly. By the looks of it. IT may indeed be.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/07 23:18:59
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Ok, this is descending into utter lunacy. Trying to censor the internet and create an echo chamber only consisting of people who agree with you by merging block lists? Yeah, sure. That'll work.
2014/09/07 23:22:13
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Ok, this is descending into utter lunacy. Trying to censor the internet and create an echo chamber only consisting of people who agree with you by merging block lists? Yeah, sure. That'll work.
Isn't that basically just doing this?
LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
I'm in my hole.... My SAFE Hole.
Look at my hole. Look how safe I AM!
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/07 23:29:29
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Actually, I did not understood what 5 meant. Also, if that money ended up on someone's pocket, would it not be someone from Double Fine rather than a journalist?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/07 23:35:20
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Ok, this is descending into utter lunacy. Trying to censor the internet and create an echo chamber only consisting of people who agree with you by merging block lists? Yeah, sure. That'll work.
Isn't that basically just doing this?
LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
I'm in my hole....
My SAFE
Hole.
Look at my hole. Look how safe I AM!
With any luck, they'll suffocate.
2014/09/07 23:36:34
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Actually, I did not understood what 5 meant. Also, if that money ended up on someone's pocket, would it not be someone from Double Fine rather than a journalist?
Who knows; it might have been pocketted by DF. It might have gone to a journalist. It might have been given to someone's mum. He's adamant that it went into the game, and until proof/significant reason to doubt him is present just gonna have to live with that.
Point Five is fully explained by Point 3.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
2014/09/07 23:42:41
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
No, I have not understood what the sentence meant. Maybe a language issue, English not being my mother's tongue and all that.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/07 23:49:35
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Alfndrate wrote: Whoo! not on the block list, but I'm not surprised at all by this because I haven't used the hashtags or really tweeted to anyone involved with this.
I am surprised none of us were just thrown onto the list as well.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/07 23:50:05
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: IGF has been accused of making sure the odds are in their favor (AKA Cheating) for their own contest. We call that Racketteering Stateside.
Just means that DF has some shady business partners, and they may or may not be innocent of the same practices.
Sorry about the confusion.
I'm kinda surprised I'm not on the list, to be honest. I've been trying to talk to people of both sides on Twitter.....
I talked a few times mostly asking questions.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/08 00:00:34
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: IGF has been accused of making sure the odds are in their favor (AKA Cheating) for their own contest. We call that Racketteering Stateside.
Oh. In their favor meaning that they are both making the contest and some of the game taking part of the contest?
(Yeah, I really know basically nothing about the context. I have never interested myself in those websites.)
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/08 00:03:17
Subject: Re:Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Slarg232 wrote: IGF has been accused of making sure the odds are in their favor (AKA Cheating) for their own contest. We call that Racketteering Stateside.
Oh. In their favor meaning that they are both making the contest and some of the game taking part of the contest?
(Yeah, I really know basically nothing about the context. I have never interested myself in those websites.)
I am surprised most people have heard about them at some point.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/08 01:57:31
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
I despise Phil Fish and his mutton chops. It would please me to no end to see him standing tall before the man.
But yeah, some serious gak going down ladies and germs, I love being on the right side of an argument, all of the information coming out, the block lists, are just proving it.
I find it hilarious the SJW block list of justice includes TFYC, because actual feminism is scary kids!
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I despise Phil Fish and his mutton chops. It would please me to no end to see him standing tall before the man.
But yeah, some serious gak going down ladies and germs, I love being on the right side of an argument, all of the information coming out, the block lists, are just proving it.
I find it hilarious the SJW block list of justice includes TFYC, because actual feminism is scary kids!
Yeah, how dare you be a reasonable human being!
2014/09/08 10:49:43
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
TFYC are an aspect of Feminism that I can really support, people who just want to help female developers to get their games made.
Doing something positive to promote and advance your cause is always better and more likely to convert others to your opinion, than running a negative media campaign labelling your ENTIRE audience and customer base as misogynist.
2014/09/08 10:57:28
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
TFYC are an aspect of Feminism that I can really support, people who just want to help female developers to get their games made.
Doing something positive to promote and advance your cause is always better and more likely to convert others to your opinion, than running a negative media campaign labelling your ENTIRE audience and customer base as misogynist.
To be honest, being called a misogynist I can deal with. What I find utterly abhorrent is being called a TERRORIST while things like IS exist.
2014/09/08 11:23:06
Subject: Zoe Quinn and the five guys; corruption in video game journalism
Yeah, that's actually very insulting to ISIS' victims. It trivializes the conflicts in Syria and Iraq by comparing critics of gaming journalists to ISIS.
