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the video I want to see is behind the paywall which is a bit odd as that's usually reserved for the extra/special stuff rather than what seems the main point of the week

Watch The Backstage Video: http://www.beastsofwar.com/backsta…/future-of-relic-knights/

We get a chance to find out what's coming next for the Relic Knights universe as we uncover details of new releases as well as factions and characters getting an upgrade.

This video is exclusive to Beasts of War Backstage members .To see this video more exclusive content try our 7 DAY FREE TRIAL @ http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage-7-day-free-trial/

We also get a peek in both artwork and miniature form of recent and upcoming releases for the game

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
the video I want to see is behind the paywall which is a bit odd as that's usually reserved for the extra/special stuff rather than what seems the main point of the week

Main points:
Story line will advance.
New V2 book by end of year.
Two player starter (Radiant vs. Void) soon -- no mention of Kickstarter
New miniatures to be released:
-Necrosynth - Black Diamond (the thing in the preview picture)
-Isabaeu - now a Questing Knight
-Harker - now a Relic Knight, Relic has a power called "Broadside"
-Breachers - Corsairs (heavy troopers)

Mez

Thanks Mez!

Any word on the material for that Two Player Starter?

 Alpharius wrote:
Any word on the material for that Two Player Starter?

Not a word on that....

Other details:
-Isabaeu's cypher is a small knight in armor.
-The Necrosynth gets stronger (more models in unit?) the more enemies it defeats.
-Some characters from Darkspace Calamity die, in continuation of the storyline.

Mez

Re: Exclusives, they probably realized that SDE campaigns make anywhere from 2x-10x more than their other campaigns anx wanted to leverage the property as a means to incentivize SDE fans to pledge to other campaigns.

So is that it over at Beasts of War? It was such a great Relic Knights week - tons more people engaged and interested again. The momentum and excitement has been built back up, so I hope they announce something soon....

Very disappointing if Soda Pop goes MIA on RK news again for the next few months.

Mez

 Mezmaron wrote:
So is that it over at Beasts of War? It was such a great Relic Knights week - tons more people engaged and interested again. The momentum and excitement has been built back up, so I hope they announce something soon....

Very disappointing if Soda Pop goes MIA on RK news again for the next few months.

Mez

BOW filmed the episodes last year, so I can only imagine that they delayed showing it because soda pop asked them because of the delay releasing the next book.

So you could assume that soda pop are now ready to do stuff with relic knights again.

Also is anyone able to measure some pirate minions or other normal sized humans for me? Want to know measurements foot top of head, before I buy some.

 JoeRugby wrote:
Also is anyone able to measure some pirate minions or other normal sized humans for me? Want to know measurements foot top of head, before I buy some.

My NSC aren't assembled, but as you may be aware there are some scale issues within the Relic Knights line, even within factions, unfortunately. Here is a picture of Moffet along with some other 40K models. Also, Francis Mallory, one of the more underscaled RK miniatures.

Mez

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A complete move away from the original Kickstarter's crappy 'restic' will be a must for me to take a look at this one again!

Agreed, I found the material terrible to work with. I painted up a bunch of Cerci and had to repair or simply invent detail on most of the models.

I'm fairly certain Soda Pop have touched on this point before, though it's been so long I can't recall what was said.

John does mention in the BoW Cerci video that some of the older models are gonna be getting resculpts. No time table was given and he could have been speaking specifically about Cerci, but I'm more inclined to believe it applies to certain miniatures across the six original factions.

Official announcement of Relic Knights 2nd edition (again, I know):

http://ninjadivision.com/announcing-relic-knights-2nd-edition/

Along with a list of miniatures that will be resculpted:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fjBQOPZj9if_c9gDkAeIDZMn2eTAqXhBCopMqDBhKFU/pubhtml?gid=1225226115&single=true

Big takeaways for me:
*Kickstarter in February. (I'm not holding my breath on this date, but it's nice to get confirmation on a KS.)
*Looks like they're revamping action queue. Models will be heroes or minions, and heroes can link to any minion.
*A ton of new resculpts, mostly of the human-size models.
*Expanded rosters, which the game really needed (imo, at least).
*Gabe and Tycho won't be supported in 2nd edition, and there's no mention of the Kingdom Death Candy model. Looks like every other model will be supported, though, even ones they're discontinuing.

Not sure how I feel about everything moving to resin.

Especially as the plastics/ restic/ special named stuff does seem to be getting better.

I found it odd that only the ladies are getting resculpted from the Noh, but I guess Soda Pop know what their fans really want...

Great news - that means that the Kickstarter is less than a month away!

Hopefully they proofread the 2.0 rulebook, so you don't get sentences like this though!
"Unsurprisingly, the mighty Knights with lead your cadres are powerful Heroes, who are instrumental in unlocking your entire cadre’s full potential."

Guess I need to get painting, since many of the sculpts I have are getting discontinued!

Also, just picked up some Darkspace characters on Ebay for cheap, since they are getting discontinued. Can't pass up Solid Snake Iron Chef for $6.50!

Mez

Their resin is miles above the material they're calling "plastic" in that list, so there's that. It's not like most resins I've worked with, though; it's flexible, almost rubbery, and every kit I've picked up from them requires some warm-water treatment to correct bending. (At least two of the models resisted airbrushing, too, but that might have been due to me not washing them thoroughly.)

I wish I had some of those single-cast Prodos models to compare; Prodos cast at least some of the new RK resins, and I wonder if they used the same material.

I had to laugh about the Zineda / Priestess resculpts, too. (I am glad to see that they're mostly not touching the Noh, though. I really like that line in general.) I'm a little gutted over the Iron Chef resculpt – I hope they don't go too far afield with it! I love the original.

Looking at the announcement:

Those models that didn’t pass review will be discontinued immediately and will be resculpted and manufactured in high-quality resin. Models which passed review will be repackaged and updated for 2nd Edition, being resculpted and making the transition to resin only once the existing stock has been depleted.

So it seems that all the older models are on the list and they simply prioritized the more egregious offenders.

The Noh are their best range in terms of sculpting, probably due to their larger size. As the female Noh are smaller, it's not surprising they'd be getting a rework. Zineda isn't too bad but the Serpent Priestess' pose certainly doesn't do her any favors.

Edit: Very glad to hear about the KS and hope this produces what we were all hoping the first would.

I'm disappointed to hear that their 'resin' isn't very good.

I already know that their 'plastic' is horrible.

Restic knights was like 3 years ago? Stuff made in the material certainly has come a long way. I feel it could work for wargames, but would have to be priced appropriately (ie, not boutique resin prices. Lookin at you Wyrd). Though it looks like the entire line is going to be converted/resculpted when their existing stock sells out.

I'd be interested in the 2nd kickstarter. The first one was essentially free for me, as I sold off extra factions and the SDE characters on ebay at a considerable profit.

So... a few questions:
-are there any mini lines people would consider their new (pseudo-?)resin equivalent to?
-assuming the game doesn't radically change, how much mileage would one get out of box set vs. box set, and keep it pretty small?
-did they ever release that kill la kill reference mini?

Main question are Prodos/Archon doing the casting or is another caster it will make a big difference in whether I back or not.

They never did release the GenCon miniatures.

I think they are too big for prodos/ archon to do their usual shenanigans and slot them at a later day (from the day they had already arranged) because a bigger/ more lucrative customer just booked printing time with them.

Mewens wrote:
*Gabe and Tycho won't be supported in 2nd edition

Guess what I got in the mail yesterday?

It is logical they will have to pay for the IP, if the IP holder is willing to give it to them again.

SDE Legends backers are now getting 2 versions of Starfire - a revised version



and the original resculpt which will now be King Starfire. This was to have been dropped due to casting issues but they've reconsidered and are giving both now.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
So... a few questions:
-are there any mini lines people would consider their new (pseudo-?)resin equivalent to?
-assuming the game doesn't radically change, how much mileage would one get out of box set vs. box set, and keep it pretty small?
-did they ever release that kill la kill reference mini?

Hasami+Prefects has been out since the game went on sale
Also she existed as a metal model before Kill La Kill existed

From Soda Pop Miniatures Forum:

Along with the release of the Relic Knights: 2nd Edition Rulebook, Relic Knights will be receiving its very
first 2-Player Starter Set. This exciting set will include an easy to assemble battlefield with card-terrain, a
small-format rulebook, two esper decks, and two complete 35 point cadres. The cadres included with the
starter set will feature the Void and Radiant sub-factions. These unique mercenary cadres can be played as
stand alone factions or lend their services to the six primary factions.

Each cadre includes a questing knight and their cypher to lead your forces, a named hero, and a named
squad. Since the included cadres are Void and Radiant, the 2-player starter has models which can be used
by every faction in the Relic Knights game! Over the coming weeks, we’ll be previewing all the stunning
models and components included in the starter. It seems only fitting to begin with the leaders of the
cadres, Bang-Bang and Tahariel.


Radiant: Bang-Bang

Bang-Bang and her cypher, Mr. Milky, claim to be the founders of the bounty hunting agency Sundown
Enforcement. In truth, Bang-Bang shot the original founder when she discovered he was colluding with
corsairs to skim extra credits from the agency’s Alliance contracts. After assuming control of Sundown
Enforcement, she went about rooting out any lingering corruption. As Sundown Enforcement was
scrubbed from the inside, Bang-Bang focused on securing only contracts for, as she put it, “legitimate
baddies.” In time, Sundown Enforcement grew in notoriety, both for its unassailable conviction in
pursuing justice and for the bombastic and gregarious personality of its new leader.

As the Darkspace Calamity has grown, the Alliance has increasingly come to rely upon Bang-Bang and
Sundown Enforcement to help maintain order as Alliance Security and paladin forces are stretched thin.
Recently, Bang-Bang has been in pursuit of the Void Witch, Tahariel, seeking to thwart the maleaach’s
plans, whatever they may be.


Void: Tahariel the Purifier

“We are the wayfinders of the void. We are the words of oblivion.”

Breaking through the paladin blockade on Origin Point, Tahariel has focused her attentions on the
Alliance forum world of Ulyxis. She has systematically made her way through the planet’s various orbital
stations, perimeter ships, and defense systems, sending them to the cold embrace of the Void. Inexorably
she has isolated the last remaining governing world of the Alliance. Now she and her Dark Pinions wait in
orbit, repelling any who seek to bring aid to the planet. Their lone ship remains all but untraceable.
Around the world subtle disturbances in the esperic patterns have begun to plague the populace,
disrupting technology and warping the land as esper crystal growths run rampant. Why she does not
directly strike Ulyxis is unknown, as is her ultimate purpose.

What the hell is "Mr. Milky?" A bull with an udder?

Those look sweet. I hope they're smart and include only models that existing players don't already have in the starter.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
What the hell is "Mr. Milky?" A bull with an udder?

I know right, it's like wtf! If he shoots milk from one teat, don't drink it!

Having this new 2 player box comprise only of mercs is very smart. I'm in, even though most of my Black Diamond models are going to be replaced!

Joyboozer wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
What the hell is "Mr. Milky?" A bull with an udder?

I know right, it's like wtf! If he shoots milk from one teat, don't drink it!

LMAO!

Also, re: 2-p starter as all mercs, agreed. Wyrd's 2p had the same idea, and I think it's a good model, since, unless the models are just bad, it's of at least some value to anyone playing

Joyboozer wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
What the hell is "Mr. Milky?" A bull with an udder?

I know right, it's like wtf! If he shoots milk from one teat, don't drink it!