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Did the original space hulk have a dark angel expansion? Maybe that is what this will be.

 Laemos wrote:
Did the original space hulk have a dark angel expansion? Maybe that is what this will be.

Yes, Deathwing, that is how I started my Deathwing the first time.

Hmmm...if they want to get real cheap, they just rerelease the old game, expect with Dark Vengeance Terminators in lieu of original SH ones and call it Space Hulk: Deathwing

Hope not, because that would be hella-lame.

Backfire wrote:
Hmmm...if they want to get real cheap, they just rerelease the old game, expect with Dark Vengeance Terminators in lieu of original SH ones and call it Space Hulk: Deathwing

Hope not, because that would be hella-lame.

For that to look even halfway decent they would have to redo all the art and the photos in the rules and scenario books, and I would bet that isn't going to happen.

I wouldn't be surprised at all about this. I only JUST managed to get a copy of Space Hulk when it was released last time (from Ebay though!), and I imagine there were many people that missed out.

GW needs gimmicks like this to make up for dud releases like Space Wolves. It's a shame they didn't just make more the last time.

It'll probably be a quick buck for them. And aren't there IP related reasons for re-releasing games every X number of years? GW's done it in the past...2nd ed Talisman comes to mind. I wouldn't blink though...I bet it'll be a limited run that will sell out immediately.

IF this pans out, i will so be grabbing a copy just to up my imperial and what ever other enemy they put in armies

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
IF this pans out, i will so be grabbing a copy just to up my imperial and what ever other enemy they put in armies

It contained genestealers last time, I don't think they would change that. The game itself is great to play too - so tense!

 scottmmmm wrote:

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
IF this pans out, i will so be grabbing a copy just to up my imperial and what ever other enemy they put in armies

It contained genestealers last time, I don't think they would change that. The game itself is great to play too - so tense!

Knowing GW though they'll most likely swap out the genestealers for chaos or something though

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
That leaker has a pretty fine, and very specific record. Lets see what happens.

Slightly worse post-August, but it's still a strong record.

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

Knowing GW though they'll most likely swap out the genestealers for chaos or something though

Especially considering they have a Space Hulk videogame already out, an expansion to that Space Hulk game coming out soon, a Space Hulk first person shooter coming out, and three editions of the actual Space Hulk board game that have all had Genestealers in it. I have no idea why they'd swap it out now.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I very much doubt they'll be rehashing Space Hulk again. They've dropped all their Specialist Games which means Space Hulk won't be returning any time soon except in digital format.

Space Hulk was never a Specialist Game. In fact it pre-dates the entire concept of "Specialist Games" by quite a margin.

"Specialist Game" has become the code phrase for everything except 40K and WH Fantasy (and Dread Fleet), in other words all the great or perhaps not so great games that Games Workshop made in the past 15 years.

A Space Hulk 3 reprint might actually make sense for GW. They should have all the moulds, cutters and plates in store, so they just need to schedule production. They have money in the bank to pay for it. It was a hugely popular game last time it was released and sold out very quickly. Copies were changing hands on eBay for about £100 last time I looked.

The only question is whether the market may already be saturated.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

Knowing GW though they'll most likely swap out the genestealers for chaos or something though

Especially considering they have a Space Hulk videogame already out, an expansion to that Space Hulk game coming out soon, a Space Hulk first person shooter coming out, and three editions of the actual Space Hulk board game that have all had Genestealers in it. I have no idea why they'd swap it out now.

it's gw though, they'll most likely use the old terminator sprews from the last one and just throw in the DV chaos cultists and charge three time as much

I don't know why people keep posting rubbish like that, except perhaps to be silly with "GW will do XYZ" posts. As Kilkrazy and others have said - it'd most likely be an exact reprint of the previous edition. There's no need or even reason to change a thing. Just queue up the existing work, and do a new run, print money - done!

People don't "keep" posting stuff like that, I had a cynical moan about how if this does happen they'll probably have made a change to sour the deal like leaving out half the terminators, and Tyraelvladinhurst said his weird thing about dropping the genestealers. That's two posts in two pages. But you know, sorry for not being optimistic about GW in 2014. What am I thinking.

If they really want to just do a re-release to 'please' their fans (and block the ebay speculators) they could go down the LE space marine captains route

Spend (big) money at GW online and get a code

use code to be allowed to buy LE space hulk reprint online... a reward for their most special (big spending) customers

I actually doubt they will be doing a re-release, but if the do I suspect the above is the way it will happen

Nah. They'd just Sanctus Reach it. They don't care about eBay in that sense.

 Azazelx wrote:
I don't know why people keep posting rubbish like that, except perhaps to be silly with "GW will do XYZ" posts. As Kilkrazy and others have said - it'd most likely be an exact reprint of the previous edition. There's no need or even reason to change a thing. Just queue up the existing work, and do a new run, print money - done!

I think it's a fair enough assumption that GW circa 2014 will find some way of making it as awkward to buy and as close towards nudging the top end of people's luxury goods budget as possible. I also shouldn't think independent store owners are even considering that they will get any copies of it to sell ..

Actually, I may be thinking too small here - there is certainly the opportunity to do something more fiendish..

After reading the article Arthurius11 only says Space Hulk. He doesn't specify if it's the board game or computer game. Other dodgy rumour mongers then jump on the bandwagon and say that it's a board game release.

The 2009 one was limited edition, therefore they can't re-release it using the same moulds, otherwise it's no longer limited edition. I can't remember any other time when GW has re-released something that is limited edition [correct me if I'm wrong].

I certainly won't be holding my breath. Remember the BloodBowl rumours? Had it as a certainty BB would get a re-release. Still waiting...

Why is it GW release everything I want at the same time? Haven't wanted anything new since marines and now they look to be releasing Space Hulk and Brets within a couple of months, curse you GW.

 Azazelx wrote:
I don't know why people keep posting rubbish like that, except perhaps to be silly with "GW will do XYZ" posts. As Kilkrazy and others have said - it'd most likely be an exact reprint of the previous edition. There's no need or even reason to change a thing. Just queue up the existing work, and do a new run, print money - done!

They do it to get on my ignore list.

I would expect an exact reprint, maybe with different box art or an exclusive mini or something. The work's already done, and it's already stellar.

They could throw in a plastic Terminator Captain or Chaplain to goose those who may have already purchased it. And/Or a few Ymgarl Genestealers.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
After reading the article Arthurius11 only says Space Hulk. He doesn't specify if it's the board game or computer game. Other dodgy rumour mongers then jump on the bandwagon and say that it's a board game release.
The 2009 one was limited edition, therefore they can't re-release it using the same moulds, otherwise it's no longer limited edition. I can't remember any other time when GW has re-released something that is limited edition [correct me if I'm wrong].
I certainly won't be holding my breath. Remember the BloodBowl rumours? Had it as a certainty BB would get a re-release. Still waiting...

Where does it say "limited edition" on the product? They're also not numbered. The UK has very specific rules/laws about "true" Limited Edition items, and I don't believe SH hit those marks. I believe it was instead a "limited release" product - as in "We're only making one run of the product". So yes, they can indeed. Like Sanctus Reach, or DreadFleet. Even if it were so, they could add in one figure (like they did in The Hobbit, or Dark Vengeance) and ergo! - new, non-identical product!

We do? What are they? Legitimately asking, I have no idea. The only thing I can think of that would govern this would be advertising law, which is based on an independent complaints system in the UK - if someone complained that GW's marketing was misleading (such as if they re-release a product they'd previously led people to believe would be more scarce, regardless of whether that's "limited edition", "limited release", etc) they might get in hot water over the advertising, but that's all I can find.

 Bull0 wrote:
We do? What are they? Legitimately asking, I have no idea. The only thing I can think of that would govern this would be advertising law, which is based on an independent complaints system in the UK - if someone complained that GW's marketing was misleading (such as if they re-release a product they'd previously led people to believe would be more scarce, regardless of whether that's "limited edition", "limited release", etc) they might get in hot water over the advertising, but that's all I can find.

I've read people talking about specific examples. There's a case where (I think) Corgi had a limited edition car, but they were selling to well that when they decided to un-limit their edition, they had to remove the number, certificate, etc. I'm not describing it very well, but there are a few things that have to be done properly for something to be legally classified as a "limited edition" in a legal sense. I had a look earlier when I was writing up my post, but couldn't find the details.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
I can't remember any other time when GW has re-released something that is limited edition [correct me if I'm wrong].

The Emperor's Champion model released as a limited edition to be sold only in-store on their 25th anniversary was later released in the 'Heroes of the Adeptus Astartes' box.

The Emperor's Champion model from the 3rd ed Black Templars army box was later released as a general release through GW US.

The Black Templars Captain in the 'special' version of the 3rd ed starter set was likewise later released for general sale alongside the normal metal captain.

The Necron Lord from the 4th(?) edition Necron army box was released for a time for general sale through the GW website.

Inquisitor Gideon Lorr was originally a limited event piece, but was for a time sold through the GW US website.

The Imperial Guard Praetorian range was originally released as a limited box set, and then later added to the core range due to demand.


There's a whole slew of Games Day miniatures that have been re-released at various events or sold at later Games Days, and the US-only Games Day female Commissar was made available for general sale through the GW website (while still simultaneously selling for 3 times the RRP on eBay!)


So no, GW have a long history of re-releasing limited editions. Having said that, I don't recall if Space Hulk was actually billed as a limited edition, or simply as a single print run.

That's all true for "limited edition" - you need to be able to demonstrate that it's limited, by, for example, numbering the product. The term "limited edition" is just one way of using the notion of scarcity to advertise a product, though - and it's not the only way that the ASA care about.

"Marketers should neither exaggerate the desirability by misleading about how limited their products are nor mislead about the present or likely future value of the item."

http://www.cap.org.uk/Advice-Training-on-the-rules/Advice-Online-Database/Limited-editions-and-collectibles.aspx#.VAujUPldXkc

Selling something on the basis that when it's gone, it's gone, only to reprint it later, would be misleading. I'm pretty sure you'd have grounds to complain to the ASA anyway. I don't think this is the deciding factor in whether or not this is happening, though - bound to be workarounds.

 Bull0 wrote:
Selling something on the basis that when it's gone, it's gone, only to reprint it later, would be misleading. .

Only if the intention to reprint it later was there when you told everyone that when it's gone, it's gone.

The Praetorians are a perfect example of this in action... They were originally made as display miniatures for a Games Day board, and were never intended for release. When people kept asking for them, GW released a limited box set, with no intention of keeping them as a core product. And then when people still kept asking for them, they decided to put them into the core range to shut everyone up.

Marketing that initial box as a limited release wasn't being deliberately misleading. At that point in time, there was no intention of any further production.

Easy way to get around any "Limited Edition" hassles- They would probably need to reprint the cardboard tiles and tokens, as unline the plastic molds, I doubt they make those in house. Change the art on all the cardboard elements, different cover, different color/style dice, and they are good. For collectors, they are clearly different, while for casual gamers it is the same game and awesome models as 2009, and for dedicated gamers, it would be new tiles to mix and match with the old set for more variety. And costs would be minimal- merely art design.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Easy way to get around any "Limited Edition" hassles- They would probably need to reprint the cardboard tiles and tokens, as unline the plastic molds, I doubt they make those in house. Change the art on all the cardboard elements, different cover, different color/style dice, and they are good. For collectors, they are clearly different, while for casual gamers it is the same game and awesome models as 2009, and for dedicated gamers, it would be new tiles to mix and match with the old set for more variety. And costs would be minimal- merely art design.

That's quite a lot of work, actually - and way more than I think would happen, since it's unnecessary. I just looked over one of my copies, and nowhere on it does it state anything about "limited edition." - and there's nothing wrong with saying "we're only doing one print run" and then doing more 5 years later. I'm no fan of GW's current business practices, but seeing people get upset about a potential re-release of SH is about as low on my empathy meter as you can get. And yeah, I own 2 full copies. One I bought at retail, one I paid over and above for on eBay - and I wouldn't hold anything against anyone for a re-release for way less than I paid for that + shipping from the US (not bloody cheap - over $300 in total!)

I also have a couple of extra tilesets that I bought from one of those guys who used to part out sets. Hm.... if only I could remember who that was...