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lliu wrote:
Space Hulk returns! I got it.

And only 20 pages need .

Now for the sold out oh no group, I pick up my copy of 3rd ed. over a year after it came out. Sure it was from a store that sell scuba and gold mining gear in a town that has more antique store then I ever seen before, but I got it for under MSRP.

I expect it will remain "sold out" on the GW web site, current FLGS stock will not be replenished, and the rest will trickle out of GW B&M stores over time to maximize profit.

Yes, that's cynical but I think it fits best with GW's policies of the past several years.

I don't know about the price problem. Being that this is a GW game, you're getting about $120 worth of space marine terminators in this kit.

For 30 dollars more, you get a couple dozen tyranids give or take, and the rest of the game.

Personally, I love these terminators and I've wanted them for a long time. Ebay was not a cheap place to get these models.

So for 50 bucks a box of 5, you get terminators which are not as good as the Space Hulk ones. In Space hulk I get 11 and a terminator librarian which would run me at least 20 bucks.

I'm not saying GW's prices are great, but for what you're getting in the starter boxes, DV, stormclaw, and spacehulk here.... its pretty much a best buy for me.

Much better than the 100 bucks I'm going to have to invest in 2 basilisks IMO

The drawback is that you use the SH termies equipped as-is. Otherwise you're on eBay for conversion bits anyway.

I was considering ordering a copy of the game, until I saw how much those data slates were.

I mean, I would supplement these models by building squads around them. They are seriously incredible models IMO...

These tyranids look like they're useless for 40k games, which doesn't matter THAT much to me, but it'd be cooler if they weren't all crawling on stationary terrain.

So I guess my question is this... is this a game that I can get people to sit down and play pretty easily? It'd be cool to play a fun, easy to understand and enjoy game with a non-40k player.

What are the odds that someone will grasp and enjoy this game? Is it fun for a beginner in your opinion??

Why are Genestealers useless? Arent they troops in the new Tyranid codex and thus a lot better than mere Gaunts?

i just mean the models... looks like they're all sitting on some piece of terrain that would be stationary. Of the 22 models, does anyone know how many AREN'T on an elaborate base that resembles a wall, or other non mobile structure?

Most of them have at least a scenic base. Two are bursting through floor-plates, and about 3 are hanging off of big terrain pieces. The Broodlord sits atop some junk and LOADS of skulls.

VanHallan wrote:
i just mean the models... looks like they're all sitting on some piece of terrain that would be stationary.

It's not really any worse than the bulk of 40k models, running around on all sorts of different terrain but magically tracking around the same exact circle of grass and gravel...

Of the 22 models, does anyone know how many AREN'T on an elaborate base that resembles a wall, or other non mobile structure?

I would have to check to be sure, but off the top of my head it's about a third of them.

Oh cool. Well I guess that's a plus. So the game- is this pretty syraight forward and easy to grasp for someone who has never played a GW game befoe, or is it going to be a mess to try to explain? I've never played spacehulk, just always loved the models.

I'm wondering if this is a good intro to mineature gaming for newbies.

The basic game play is fairly simple, and not really anything like GW's other games.
The missions also ease you into it by starting out fairly basic and working up.

I think for someone who has never played 40k, Space Hulk is easier to learn than Dark Vengeance

Are the tiles from these sorts of games interchangeable to some extent? For example, will space hulk tiles work ok with SW Imperial Assault? And could you link them to say... Dungeon Saga tiles for a hybrid sci-fi + catacombs type deal?

 Yonan wrote:
Are the tiles from these sorts of games interchangeable to some extent? For example, will space hulk tiles work ok with SW Imperial Assault? And could you link them to say... Dungeon Saga tiles for a hybrid sci-fi + catacombs type deal?

As Dakka's resident tileophile, let me answer that question:

The Space Hulk tiles in this new release are compatible with the following games:

Space Hulk 1st Ed

Space Hulk 2nd Ed

Space Hulk 3rd Ed (the tiles in the current release are 99% the same)

Tyranid Attack/Advanced Space Crusade (same tiles, different name)

The new FFG Star Wars game tiles use a different connector, meaning that they will likely work only with themselves and Descent (either 1st or 2nd Ed). I'd also hazard a guess that they'll work with the exceptional DOOM Boardgame tiles as well. But they won't work with any GW produced tiles. Oddly enough, based purely on eyeballing the ones they've made so far, I believe there's a chance that the Shadows of Brimstone tiles will work with the Space Hulk tiles, but we'll have to wait 'til they're released to find out.

 Sir Arun wrote:
I think for someone who has never played 40k, Space Hulk is easier to learn than Dark Vengeance

Well yes. Dark Vengeance is just 40K. Space Hulk is a board game, with inherently simpler rules.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Yonan wrote:
Are the tiles from these sorts of games interchangeable to some extent? For example, will space hulk tiles work ok with SW Imperial Assault? And could you link them to say... Dungeon Saga tiles for a hybrid sci-fi + catacombs type deal?

As Dakka's resident tileophile, let me answer that question:

Perfect answer, thanks ; ) Drops my interest in it substantially again, I may not turn to a card tile collector but just go full on battle systems collector. Probably easier to modify gameplay to work on those than to try to rig together different ranges of tiles.

 Sir Arun wrote:
Why are Genestealers useless? Arent they troops in the new Tyranid codex and thus a lot better than mere Gaunts?

Well, truth to be told, both Genestealers and Tactical Terminators are pretty useless nowadays in 40k...

Put a purchase in for this Friday night. Was expecting the new tiles and extra missions so that has got me a little more excited for the release, not that I wasn't already over the moon to finally bag myself a copy of this after missing it last time.
I shall be having a good few games of this with the flatmate when it come through the post.

I also picked up the White Dwarf that was released on Saturday so I could have the new mission in there too. I'm not very inventive when it comes to making up my own. It's also nice to have the painting guide.

Franko wrote:
Put a purchase in for this Friday night. Was expecting the new tiles and extra missions so that has got me a little more excited for the release, not that I wasn't already over the moon to finally bag myself a copy of this after missing it last time.
I shall be having a good few games of this with the flatmate when it come through the post.

I also picked up the White Dwarf that was released on Saturday so I could have the new mission in there too. I'm not very inventive when it comes to making up my own. It's also nice to have the painting guide.

Yeah I quite appreciated the BA and Stealer guide in there. I was half expecting an iBooks thing to come out instead.

Anyways.. Dark Eldar are up next *tootles off to the DE rumour thread*

Can't wait for the 20th.

For anyone that wants just the minis, hit me up. I will probably be selling the minis from my copy as I just want the tiles.

I will probably want to keep the Brood Lord, CAT, and a few other pieces, but I don't think I'll need the normal Terminators and Genestealers.

(I have several sets of original lead SH Terminators and lead Genestealers that I prefer to use)

 Kilkrazy wrote:

...There are cheaper miniature boardgames like Gears of War and Super Dungeon Explore, which have less stuff in them...

Um- Super Dungeon has more minis in it than Space Hulk (SH count is about 35 minis, SDE is around 50). And while most of them are smaller than terminators, the weight of plastic is definitely higher.

Unless you were super excited about having door inserts instead of more monsters.

Now, what might push SDE over the top is the expansion content. I mean, I have my Space Hulk set taking up one shelf in my Ikea case, while my Super Dungeon minis take up the three shelves below. And I have a few more unpainted SDE minis that will be needing to find a home once I get them finished. I suppose that I could add to my Space Hulk set using 40k minis, but I won't be doing that before I rebuild Space Crusade anyway.


I do think the rattle value of Space Hulk is a little bit lower than a number of other comparable miniatures board games (Zombicide and Sedition Wars come to mind). However, it isn't a massive difference. Most of GW's pricing is just a little higher than the market price of similar products (although their 'Core' plastic unit boxes tend to be a little low instead). But this isn't an obscenely overpriced game (if it weren't GW, I'd guess it'd be $100 instead of $125).

Just a heads up, do not order it from Asgard Wargames, they cannot be trusted, a friend of mine made a purchase friday night, only to wake up on saturday morning, to an email saying they did not really have them available.
They said they were going to give people in store first refusals ( sorting out the regulars), which would be fair enough if they had not already advertised it as available and took payment from him.

Luckily I can give him my copy as I do no really need it, but I would not like to see anyone else let down in such a manner.

Still available from the US website, so not sold out everywhere.
FLGS will get them this week. Just confirmed my copies, coming in this Friday.

Not sure miniatures-count is a valid comparison between Space Hulk and any other miniatures based boardgame, as Space Hulk has a superior ruleset to every single one.

I've got $300+ of Sedition Wars I'd gladly trade for one copy of Space Hulk if anyone wants a "deal".

Can someone who purchased one of the dataslates (specifically the Dark Angles one) give a quick review of the content and their overall impression?

Data slates are not available until Saturday.

preorder the dataslate.....amazing

If you preorder it preloads then auto unlocks on release, just switch on and it is there. Convenience.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
If you preorder it preloads then auto unlocks on release, just switch on and it is there. Convenience.

Should be thankful to GW for saving you the time on release day to buy and load it, yes!