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 TwilightSparkles wrote:
How does anyone figure it's overpriced? Each to their own but it isn't IMO. Not when the figures are all unique poses stead of 10 identical ones multiplied out etc

Well, yeah I know the whole GW price complaints are a bit tiresome. But I mean really, this is a board game.

I have a real job and a big family to support. We buy fun things and of course things that are not exactly necessary, but when I'm buying some toys for me, I have a hard time justifying to myself, much less anyone else in the family spending that much on a board game.

Yes there's a grip of models in there, yes they are pretty. But they are still little plastic men.

I have to agree with what Tannhauser42 posted, just because GW tells you terminators are worth something, doesn't mean they are. Totally agree.

That said, the market is obviously right since people are paying that price, but I just won't. It isn't going to change. I still love my hobby, but I am balking at the prices of all of these kits and at the fact that people aren't.

Maybe I need a better real job?

 Gorgrimm wrote:

...That said, the market is obviously right since people are paying that price, but I just won't. It isn't going to change. I still love my hobby, but I am balking at the prices of all of these kits and at the fact that people aren't...

There are loads of board games right now that you could compare these against. The market price for a miniatures board game of this caliber runs between $75-100 (on Kickstarter, they're almost all at the $100 price point because that's what works for KS).

That doesn't mean that it works for everyone, and GW is going a little above the market standard (which is their MO). But miniatures board games generally do cost around a hundred bucks.

And the market is usually the way to go.

Yes I agree as far as the market goes. I guess I should've quantified that I valued it as over priced. I don't see this package as worth that much.

If you find Space Hulk too expensive there is plenty of choice on the market.

If you compare it with Runewars and Twilight Imperium III, you get fewer models in Space Hulk but they are larger and more detailed (and compatible with 40K). IDK how much weight of parts overall those three games have and I am not climbing into my attic to weight them.

The price is about the same for all three games.

There are cheaper miniature boardgames like Gears of War and Super Dungeon Explore, which have less stuff in them, and there are even cheaper games like Carcassone and Ticket to Ride, that basically are pure board games with some solid playing pieces for pawns.

The key selling point of Space Hulk is that it is based in the 40K background. You could easily take the rules -- they are very simple -- and make your own version much cheaper using any models you wanted. Substitute Viet Cong for the Genestealers and US Marines for the Terminators and set it in the tunnels of Cu Chi.

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 CptJake wrote:

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I see they've repeated the same idiotic mistake as last time in making it Limited Edition again.

Because hey, why sell several thousand copies over the next 5 years when you can sell just 1000 or so and boast for the next 5 years about how quickly your game sold out?

Are you seriously suggesting they are only making 1,000 copies?

The webstore now lists Space Hulk as unavailable. So what do you think?

I think they probably made between 50-80k copies. I think there is zero chance they made only 1000. A print run that limited would drive the manufacturing costs way too high. I think if they expected to only sell 1000, or even less than 10,000 they would bother with the release. I think for this to make a difference on the quarterly finances they must churn out way more than 1000.

OK, so I wasn't literally correct. I guess I had in mind the numbers of units for other Limited Edition products, like the Ltd Ed Codicies, that actually listed the numbers still available ("1000..900...500...100...Less than 100 remaining!") and made the assumption it was the same with this new Ltd Ed Space Hulk.

But my point is still valid - the actual print run was pitifully inadequate with regards to the huge demand, given that it sold out in a matter of hours. Whatever the actual print number, GW is deliberately under supplying the market when it could sell maybe 2 or 3 times as much if only it produced enough units.

If anybody at GW has any business sense, they'll immediately be ordering a 2nd print run in time for Xmas.

In fact, they should do this every year, reprinting the game as long as the demand remains, and only reduce the print run or stop altogether when the demand begins to drop,

Newsflash: Wouldn't make it here by Christmas. Probably a minimum of 6 months of lead time. Original game took 12 months.

 Bull0 wrote:

Besides which, as has been stated, there'll be copies floating around and honestly it took a good 24 hours to sell out from what I can tell - it was no blink-and-you-miss-it shield generator anyway - so if people were set on getting it but couldn't, I'm struggling to see how/why

if it's sold out before someone is aware of it, the only thing they can do is fork out for the ebay prices, and they may not want to pay that much.

Herzlos wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:

Besides which, as has been stated, there'll be copies floating around and honestly it took a good 24 hours to sell out from what I can tell - it was no blink-and-you-miss-it shield generator anyway - so if people were set on getting it but couldn't, I'm struggling to see how/why

if it's sold out before someone is aware of it, the only thing they can do is fork out for the ebay prices, and they may not want to pay that much.

Why do people continue to make these kind of statements? GW stores in the US had copies of the 2009 edition as far as the new year. This will be no different.

The only reason it's sold out on the web store is because they shorted the amount of copies available for sale through the web store. It's sort of an underhanded way to drive up demand, not an actual glimpse of reality.

And, as I said, not everyone has a GW store near them that they can access. Web orders (or in the old days Mail Order) are a major part of the hobby for a lot of people.

 Da Boss wrote:
And, as I said, not everyone has a GW store near them that they can access. Web orders (or in the old days Mail Order) are a major part of the hobby for a lot of people.

Yeah? So what? Order it from your local shop or a web shop then. Plenty of people are doing just that. Every game shop I know of has been ordering them for their stock.

This frantic "Ermagherd its sold out" is just artificial hype which is what GW does best to sell their overpriced toy soldiers.

I always liked the look of this but can't justify 75 quid.

Yeah,

 Sir Arun wrote:

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
£60 from darksphere.
Boom! Purchased.

umm...what? It says "pickup only" on darksphere. I assume youre booking a ticket to England then?

I'm on holiday my Spluk will be waiting for me when i get home

In the UK, GW and most online retailers have now sold out, the only ones left are in GW stores.

I feel bad that this is my second copy so will probably sell my 2009 copy. (although I'll be tempted to keep the genestealers....)

Panic...

Decided to paint up my Spulk terminators...

Looks good!

I'm tempted to just wait a bit and see if I can get the rulebooks of ebay, I wonder how much I'd need to add to my 2nd edition SH set to make it work with this 3.1 edition.

EDIT: Just noticed tilesets for 3rd edition are dirt cheap on ebay. I guess that settles it, I won't bother with this release of SH, just get the rules and tileset and use my existing stealers and Terminators. The Terminators are nice models but as I don't collect BA they are going to get pushed to the bottom of the painting pile and probably never get painted. I would like the stealers but I'm not paying that much to get them.

Are those Space Hulk data files only readable on apple devices?

Manager in a GW local to me said pre-orders sold out in minutes yesterday but they were expecting store stock next Saturday.

All hope is not lost yet if you missed out.

Visceral_Mass wrote:
Are those Space Hulk data files only readable on apple devices?

Only says iBooks on the site..

 Breotan wrote:
There will be copies at local GW stores well into the new year. Same as in the 2009 release.

That they had an articifially low amount available on their webstore this time around is not but an assumption. People said it'll be just like 2009 when it was two weeks or so on the webstore from what I've heard. Yeah, it lasted less than 24 hours this time in Europe. Online retailer preorders in Europe are pretty much sold out as well after less than 48 hours. Really want to keep assuming it's just like 2009? Things have changed since 2009, not just at GW but among the hobbyists as well. Sure, some individual stores here and there might have copies laying around "into the new year", but those are likely to be the exceptions and not very useful to most people.

Visceral_Mass wrote:
Are those Space Hulk data files only readable on apple devices?

So far yes. I imagine they'll come out with the eBook versions later.

As I write this post gifts for geeks uk web store still has 10 copies available for £67.99 not including postage

phil751 wrote:
As I write this post gifts for geeks uk web store still has 10 copies available for £67.99 not including postage

collection only unfortunately!

EDIT: Was thinking of Element games :]

I have removed some off-topic chatter from the last couple of pages. This is not the place to discuss peoples' posting habits.

 tvih wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
There will be copies at local GW stores well into the new year. Same as in the 2009 release.

That they had an articifially low amount available on their webstore this time around is not but an assumption. People said it'll be just like 2009 when it was two weeks or so on the webstore from what I've heard. Yeah, it lasted less than 24 hours this time in Europe.

Actually in 2009 it lasted about four days in webstore - though I recall it briefly came back as a result of 'warehousing error'...

So anyways, from the Blood Angels terminator squad in Space Hulk, who's your favorite character? Mine is Zael. I can totally relate to his eccentrics.

Backfire wrote:

Actually in 2009 it lasted about four days in webstore - though I recall it briefly came back as a result of 'warehousing error'...

I see. Well, regardless, I do hope that the game remains available for a longer time, but the sad fact of the matter is that even if it remains available in some stores, there will be people who are nowhere near those stores that can't procure a copy other than second-hand, and that's unfortunate. But it is what it is, I guess.

Anyway, can't wait to see the models in person. Then I can better evaluate how tricky it'll be (for my "skillset") to convert them to BT or perhaps some as CF as well. When I first saw the models online in late 2012 or so, I've wanted them ever since. Now the wait is finally nearly over!

I have never been much of a board games guy. I play many different table top games, but I have barely ever played any real board games (besides monopoly I guess). I figured that this could be an entry game of some sort, but I'll never get it at inflated prices. The X-COM board game might turn out to be interesting however.

There are loads of good boardgames. The great thing about them is being self-contained, compared to a tabletop ruleset, usually cheaper, and quicker to set up.

Of course they are also more limited with their scenarios.

Very glad I sold my copy of the 2009 version of this for twice what I paid for it.

Preordered a copy yesterday. Never owned the original, only had Space Crusade so Im excited

I managed to pre-order two copies in store on Saturday afternoon.

Im really excited for what i think is a great game. I just want to find a secind edition copy to complete my set.

Space Hulk returns! I got it.