Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP

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**mjl7atlas**

For those of us work blocked at work, when's the release date for the 3 other chapters?

**PhillyT**

CptJake wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Waiting to see what the tile sets go for on ebay. Hopefully can get all the tiles, books and whatnot for $20-30 and just use my existing 'nids and Termies to play it.

I'm hoping for that too.

$20 - $30 seems pretty low!

I am thinking folks will shoot for at least $50. The boxes will likely go in the $200 range, with the terminators being the most savory part.

**TwilightSparkles**

mjl7atlas wrote:
For those of us work blocked at work, when's the release date for the 3 other chapters?

Saturday.

**totalfailure**

Wonder if they didn't misjudge the quantities allocated some, seeing as how it is still available in the US store as I write this,and has been sold out for days in the UK one.

**CptJake**

totalfailure wrote:
Wonder if they didn't misjudge the quantities allocated some, seeing as how it is still available in the US store as I write this,and has been sold out for days in the UK one.

I was thinking they may be doing allocations differently in the UK and the US. In the UK they may have more customers served by actual stores and therefore allocated a higher percent to the stores which serve those customers. In the US, they may do more internet sales and GW stores serve a lesser number and/or percent of customers so they allocated a higher percent to the web store.

I would like to think they did some type of analysis to justify how they did it, and that would seem to make sense. I know I would have looked at it that way (amongst others).

**AllSeeingSkink**

Vain wrote:
So many people love it, but perhaps they also believe that so many people also have it?

I see this argument for "They aren't making as much money as they could be" from people in kickstarters and it sometimes confuses me.
A company may wish to make more money, or they may wish to play it safe. There is no mandate that they have to do the scheme that makes the most potential money, especially if they believe there is some risk behind it.

Games Workshop is a company that has over 400 stores worldwide, they're not the same as a kickstarter who can treat each release as a self contained "we made this much and it cost us that much". They have huge long term ongoing costs, they need to consider their consistent cashflow far more than a kickstarter working off burst releases.

**Kilkrazy**

Hordini wrote:
I was a little bit embarrassed that I missed this thread today, but then I realized it's only like 11 days old, so I'm not that far behind. But my question is, with a release this big, that's already sold out online, did GW really not have any rumors or marketing until this month? That seems crazy.

The reason I even looked for this thread is because I stopped by my FLGS today (for the first time in like a month and a half) and was informed they were taking pre-orders for Space Hulk. I was lucky enough to snag the last one, which I'm quite happy about, as I missed it the last time around. But had I not stopped by the store today I almost certainly would have missed out.

I know I'm not the poster who's most on top of news and rumors these day, but I feel like with something as popular as Space Hulk GW should be marketing this pretty hardcore more than just a couple weeks in advance.

We have no idea how many copies they produced. It might have been only 5,000.

**angelofvengeance**

mjl7atlas wrote:
For those of us work blocked at work, when's the release date for the 3 other chapters?

This coming Saturday.

**angryboy2k**

CptJake wrote:
totalfailure wrote:
Wonder if they didn't misjudge the quantities allocated some, seeing as how it is still available in the US store as I write this,and has been sold out for days in the UK one.

I was thinking they may be doing allocations differently in the UK and the US. In the UK they may have more customers served by actual stores and therefore allocated a higher percent to the stores which serve those customers. In the US, they may do more internet sales and GW stores serve a lesser number and/or percent of customers so they allocated a higher percent to the web store.

I would like to think they did some type of analysis to justify how they did it, and that would seem to make sense. I know I would have looked at it that way (amongst others).

It's not the only thing that should have been looked at. All of GW's ROW customers are served by GWUK. I know I would have liked to buy this edition of Space Hulk and would have ordered it online (I live in Asia) but unfortunately I was traveling during the what - two hour? - window in which the product was available. It's very frustrating to see it's still available on the US and even the AUS sites but I can't buy it from either of them.

**TwilightSparkles**

It was available for a lot longer than 2 hours on GW alone, some online indies had stock going into Monday.

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With the stock, well it's the easiest thing in the world to say something sold out should have had more made of it, the key is in knowing that before it reaches the preorder point. We are of course assuming that this isn't a case of the initial run of models being bigger than suspected and all that has been freshly made is the new tiles and books? Maybe they couldn't get a bigger production run in time, maybe they are saving more for events and the fest?

Without the limited run then it would not sell as well and would sell more from discounters than GW itself. I didn't really want to spend that amount, but ultimately I'll pay a months interest on a card rather than two years interest equivalent on ebay price hiking.

**angryboy2k**

TwilightSparkles wrote:
It was available for a lot longer than 2 hours on GW alone, some online indies had stock going into Monday.

Are you answering my post and are you referring to the indy retailers who aren't allowed to ship overseas?

As I said in my post, I live in Asia. I was on a plane at the time of release and I'm still traveling (hence the French flag on the left), so even more difficult for me.
I'd pick one up from a French retailer but I don't have luggage space for the box and I'm not likely to be near a retailer on Saturday.

**Hordini**

Kilkrazy wrote:
Hordini wrote:
I was a little bit embarrassed that I missed this thread today, but then I realized it's only like 11 days old, so I'm not that far behind. But my question is, with a release this big, that's already sold out online, did GW really not have any rumors or marketing until this month? That seems crazy.

The reason I even looked for this thread is because I stopped by my FLGS today (for the first time in like a month and a half) and was informed they were taking pre-orders for Space Hulk. I was lucky enough to snag the last one, which I'm quite happy about, as I missed it the last time around. But had I not stopped by the store today I almost certainly would have missed out.

I know I'm not the poster who's most on top of news and rumors these day, but I feel like with something as popular as Space Hulk GW should be marketing this pretty hardcore more than just a couple weeks in advance.

We have no idea how many copies they produced. It might have been only 5,000.

That's true, I suppose we don't know. Maybe they only made 5,000, or maybe they made a million and it's just insanely popular beyond their wildest dreams.

**Theophony**

I was surprised when I stopped by miniaturemarket.com, they are two miles from my house, and are pretty big sellers of 40k. They are getting 0.......yes, zero, they changed their deal with GW, and are no longer getting preorder materials, so could not get any of these. Much to the chagrin of the cashier who missed out on it back in 2009. Glad I got one back then, I can live without a second one.

**Jehan-reznor**

Well i ordered one through my GW retailer in Osaka, wondering if i will get one

**Hordini**

Theophony wrote:
I was surprised when I stopped by miniaturemarket.com, they are two miles from my house, and are pretty big sellers of 40k. They are getting 0.......yes, zero, they changed their deal with GW, and are no longer getting preorder materials, so could not get any of these. Much to the chagrin of the cashier who missed out on it back in 2009. Glad I got one back then, I can live without a second one.

My current FLGS, which is very small, is only getting like five or six. That's interesting that a big seller is getting zero though.

**timetowaste85**

Is there only this single issue of WD that has SH info in it? I bought the issue that has an exclusive map, and is get more if they existed. But I have to say, the "magazine" (it's really a pamphlet) is a letdown other than knowing I was only going in for the additional mission.

**SickSix**

I was able to pre-order from US site as of 10 minutes ago.

**Breotan**

SickSix wrote:
I was able to pre-order from US site as of 10 minutes ago.

Yep. There are still plenty available, it seems.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Seems they just allocated them poorly. The UK online store sold out very quickly and I think earlier we had some reports that people couldn't preorder in stores either... but the US online store still has some.

**Paradigm**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Is there only this single issue of WD that has SH info in it? I bought the issue that has an exclusive map, and is get more if they existed. But I have to say, the "magazine" (it's really a pamphlet) is a letdown other than knowing I was only going in for the additional mission.

Just that one. Check down in the 'misc boardgames' sub forum, there's a thread there with a bunch of the older WD missions updated.

**Hivefleet Oblivion**

Dark Sphere got more than their allocated delivery, they had some spare copies last night. They're shop pickup only but definitely worth checking out.

**Sidstyler**

TwilightSparkles wrote:
With the stock, well it's the easiest thing in the world to say something sold out should have had more made of it, the key is in knowing that before it reaches the preorder point.

They're not exactly going in blind, though. They know Space Hulk will sell because it sold out just about as quickly when they released it before in 2009.

Granted that still doesn't say much, they could have said screw it and produced three times as many as last time and not even sold half of them. One could argue in any case that it would probably help if GW had social media outlets to take advantage of in order to try and gauge interest in a re-release, or maybe even do some of that market research that Kirby claims they don't need at all. But because they don't engage with the customer base at all and have a "They'll buy what we make" mentality, we have a situation where some limited products never sell and others are gone instantly and they just don't know which one's going to be hot and which one isn't.

**Franko**

Just went into my local toy shop on my lunch break to grab a copy of this weeks WD for a mate and they have three copies left to sell. I rang GW to cancel my online order, because it would be more convenient to get it from a shop than turn up late to work after the post has been, but it's too late as it is already packed up ready to ship. Could have bagged a copy from the shop anyway and made a profit but i'd just fee dirty doing that and depriving some poor sod the chance to own this great game.

**Panic**

yeah,

Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
Dark Sphere got more than their allocated delivery, they had some spare copies last night. They're shop pickup only but definitely worth checking out.

I have my pre order with dark sphere, I assume we are sticking to the saturday pick up??

Will be down later today to play X-wing so will ask

Panic...

**angelofvengeance**

Franko wrote:
Just went into my local toy shop on my lunch break to grab a copy of this weeks WD for a mate and they have three copies left to sell. I rang GW to cancel my online order, because it would be more convenient to get it from a shop than turn up late to work after the post has been, but it's too late as it is already packed up ready to ship. Could have bagged a copy from the shop anyway and made a profit but i'd just fee dirty doing that and depriving some poor sod the chance to own this great game.

Glad to hear it lol

**Kilkrazy**

The solution to the ordering problem is to announce the product three months in advance, take orders with a deposit, and make that many copies plus 10% extra.

**CptJake**

Kilkrazy wrote:
The solution to the ordering problem is to announce the product three months in advance, take orders with a deposit, and make that many copies plus 10% extra.

Please don't just post pictures, motyak

**mjl7atlas**

Are there plans for adding other races to space hulk? Orks would be a no brainer imo but really all could be added.

**Gimgamgoo**

mjl7atlas wrote:
Are there plans for adding other races to space hulk? Orks would be a no brainer imo but really all could be added.

What would be the point in continually adding to, and supporting a game their player base can't even buy?

I tried to order it 2 hours after buying my WD on the Saturday of pre-release and it was sold out. I've contacted them several times and all they say is go down to your local store. As I point out, though, my local store is 60 miles away and shuts on the day I would get chance to go there. Other online retailers had sold out within hours and those that still had some, were not allowed to sell via post, they were collection only thanks to GW's crazy policies.
Oh, and I wasn't buying it for myself. My lad asked for it for Christmas after skimming through my WD.
:-(

**CptJake**

Did you call your (not so) local store and see if you could purchase one over the phone for pick up later?