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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 09:41:57
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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I got a shipping notice from The Warstore, my copy will arrive Monday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 09:55:18
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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UPS will be delivering mine on wither Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. I can work from home on one of those days. Place your bets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 10:29:30
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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Franko wrote:UPS will be delivering mine on wither Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. I can work from home on one of those days. Place your bets.
Tuesday!
It'll probably show up Monday though. At least for me, UPS is pretty good at delivering on the scheduled date...I'm just not very good at being home when they deliver.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 10:50:49
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Been Around the Block
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Heh, I'm sure which ever day I choose to stay home will be the day it doesn't turn up. If I miss it they normally put a note in the post box so I'll get more than one chance next week to get it. Would have been great to get it this weekend so I could get a few games in with a friend.
I shall just have to stifle my exitment until next weekend when I can play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 13:04:15
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:Maybe it's just me but even the core Space Hulk I found pretty unbalanced and luck based. The reason it's a good game is that it's intense and good for a laugh.
Noway dude! Been playing for over 20 years. One of the most perfectly balanced games ever - two veteran players going head-to-head is nail-biting. But then of course it sometimes does come down to the roll of the dice... thankfully there's enough dice-rolling that the law of averages works out (usually...)
I've found new players learn Genestealer tactics first as they are easier and more natural (hiding 0/1 blips to bait Terminators and force the Marine player to spread out; voluntarily expanding a blip before Marine LOS lets the Marine player expand; leaving a Genestealer in an intersection after surviving overwatch so that other Genestealers can move behind it/etc without triggering overwatch; etc)
Marine tactics are far harder and really make the game seem unbalanced until the Marine player comes to grips with the fact that every-single-action-point-is-precious-beyond-measure, you _must_ set up overlapping fields of fire, you _must_ know when to sacrifice a Terminator, you _must_ know when and where to launch a flamer round, and you _must_ roll well (ha!) for Command Points and keep them into the Genestealer activation turn so you can interrupt, unjam, and either shoot or re-overwatch a jammed Terminator, etc)
Unf, I'm getting all tactically sweaty just thinking about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 13:10:29
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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Anyone who pre-ordered direct from GW have theirs shipped yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 13:32:14
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 14:29:02
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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judgedoug wrote:...........Unf, I'm getting all tactically sweaty just thinking about it.
That sounds dirty - I like it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 14:32:30
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Not yet. I did hear that they are going to be sent out today though. Automatically Appended Next Post: Reading through Judgedoug's post has really made me want to play SH tonight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 16:39:18
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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Franko wrote:
Not yet. I did hear that they are going to be sent out today though.
It says on the SH order page:
"Ordered by Wednesday before release --> Shipped on Friday
Ordered after Wednesday before release --> Shipped on Monday".
But then it says on the customer service FAQ
Which would mean it doesn't get dispatched until Monday. It will get here at some point next week so it's all good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 19:33:12
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Essentially GW hates you even if you preorder their stuff as long as you're not heading to their FLGS to pick your items up and say hello to the nice men in red shirts on that Saturday (which defeats the idea of preordering from the webstore in the first place - at least for most releases other than the super rare Space Hulk)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 19:40:14
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
Castle Clarkenstein
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They got our copies to us yesterday, and have them up for sale now. Good times.
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....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 20:05:55
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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mikhaila wrote:They got our copies to us yesterday, and have them up for sale now. Good times.
I'm thinking of ordering a second copy - do you do mail order? (what's shipping likeon that beast?) Rather support a LGS than GW directly, and my nearest FLGS is sold out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 21:08:35
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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judgedoug wrote:
*snip*
Unf, I'm getting all tactically sweaty just thinking about it.
Yeah. Honestly, without any exaggeration whatsoever, I've had far more fun playing Space Hulk than I've ever had playing 40k.
Probably why GW is so scared to sell it for more than five minutes...
Anyway, I got myself a copy today, one of the two that my (new-ish) local store was able to get. The other is obviously spoken for. I already have a copy from the 2009 release but I wanted another one to act as a "back up" copy since I quit playing with mine years ago as I was scared to death of ruining a tile or breaking a model (and don't even think about putting a brush to one, ugh...) for a $300 set that was never going to be printed again, ever *cough*...
Still debating about getting another one as a gift to someone. $125 is a bit much to be buying multiple copies up, especially when I'm not planning on reselling them like others are. And you know, obviously, Space Hulk will never, ever be coming back, so I have to get it right now.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 21:43:29
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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The bastards got me...
I'd swore I'd never buy another GW kit new in box, but they got me.
But hey, I missed it in 2009, and I couldn't let my 1st and 2nd edition copies get lonely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 21:53:04
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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God, that box was HEAVY!! Have my copy in hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 22:12:11
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Its a bit of a beast isn't it? lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 22:21:49
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Sold out in the US store now. Still available in Australia (probably because the bastards are asking $190 for it  ). judgedoug wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote:Maybe it's just me but even the core Space Hulk I found pretty unbalanced and luck based. The reason it's a good game is that it's intense and good for a laugh. Noway dude! Been playing for over 20 years. One of the most perfectly balanced games ever - two veteran players going head-to-head is nail-biting. But then of course it sometimes does come down to the roll of the dice... thankfully there's enough dice-rolling that the law of averages works out (usually...) I've found new players learn Genestealer tactics first as they are easier and more natural (hiding 0/1 blips to bait Terminators and force the Marine player to spread out; voluntarily expanding a blip before Marine LOS lets the Marine player expand; leaving a Genestealer in an intersection after surviving overwatch so that other Genestealers can move behind it/etc without triggering overwatch; etc) Marine tactics are far harder and really make the game seem unbalanced until the Marine player comes to grips with the fact that every-single-action-point-is-precious-beyond-measure, you _must_ set up overlapping fields of fire, you _must_ know when to sacrifice a Terminator, you _must_ know when and where to launch a flamer round, and you _must_ roll well (ha!) for Command Points and keep them into the Genestealer activation turn so you can interrupt, unjam, and either shoot or re-overwatch a jammed Terminator, etc) Unf, I'm getting all tactically sweaty just thinking about it.
Yeah I understand those things, but I still think the game isn't terribly balanced and is heavily luck based  I never played the 1st edition, but the later editions I've played with a few mates over the years and a lot of missions after playing or watching a couple of games you figure out how many action points it takes you to get from one point to another and cover certain corridors. Some missions it was really hard for the stealers to win, other missions it mostly came down to luck where you'd always end up with pockets of stealers in certain spots and it just came down to how many kills/jams the marines rolled and if they got lucky in CC. Not to say it doesn't take a bit of skill to figure out what to do next and plan your approach, how many marines to leave behind as a rear guard, how to space them so if one dies they don't all just die, etc... but a lot of the time you could plan the perfect attack and fail on the dice and be dead before you get half way across the map, or you could roll well off the back of a complete fail of a plan and still win, with some missions regardless of the strategy employed one player would always have to get lucky to win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 22:24:07
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: judgedoug wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote:Maybe it's just me but even the core Space Hulk I found pretty unbalanced and luck based. The reason it's a good game is that it's intense and good for a laugh.
Noway dude! Been playing for over 20 years. One of the most perfectly balanced games ever - two veteran players going head-to-head is nail-biting. But then of course it sometimes does come down to the roll of the dice... thankfully there's enough dice-rolling that the law of averages works out (usually...)
I've found new players learn Genestealer tactics first as they are easier and more natural (hiding 0/1 blips to bait Terminators and force the Marine player to spread out; voluntarily expanding a blip before Marine LOS lets the Marine player expand; leaving a Genestealer in an intersection after surviving overwatch so that other Genestealers can move behind it/etc without triggering overwatch; etc)
Marine tactics are far harder and really make the game seem unbalanced until the Marine player comes to grips with the fact that every-single-action-point-is-precious-beyond-measure, you _must_ set up overlapping fields of fire, you _must_ know when to sacrifice a Terminator, you _must_ know when and where to launch a flamer round, and you _must_ roll well (ha!) for Command Points and keep them into the Genestealer activation turn so you can interrupt, unjam, and either shoot or re-overwatch a jammed Terminator, etc)
Unf, I'm getting all tactically sweaty just thinking about it.
Yeah I understand those things, but I still think the game isn't terribly balanced and is heavily luck based  I never played the 1st edition, but the later editions I've played with a few mates over the years and a lot of missions after playing or watching a couple of games you figure out how many action points it takes you to get from one point to another and cover certain corridors. Some missions it was really hard for the stealers to win, other missions it mostly came down to luck where you'd always end up with pockets of stealers in certain spots and it just came down to how many kills/jams the marines rolled and if they got lucky in CC.
Not to say it doesn't take a bit of skill to figure out what to do next and plan your approach, how many marines to leave behind as a rear guard, how to space them so if one dies they don't all just die, etc... but a lot of the time you could plan the perfect attack and fail on the dice and be dead before you get half way across the map, or you could roll well off the back of a complete fail of a plan and still win, with some missions regardless of the strategy employed one player would always have to get lucky to win.
The dice gods are fickle ones...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 22:29:54
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I still don't think it's a BAD game, but it's why the PC version I find boring and the table top game I find fun, because half the fun is watching a marine die after failing to hold a 5 square long corridor on overwatch, or watching a space marine gun down 6 genestealers with only a 2 square long overwatch to basically seal the game  But those sorts of things don't make for a good PC game. As far as the skill level is concerned, I think someone who has played the game 2-3 times has a big advantage over someone who hasn't, but someone who has played it 200-300 times is only at a slight advantage over the person who has played it 2-3 times
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 23:32:01
Subject: Re:Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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My local has two Space Hulk boxed sets, man that is one heavy box! If you are on the fence about whether or not you should buy it I'll tell you it's full of really well made miniatures, heavy with content like tiles etc and the game itself is a nail biter! Really fun! You may get smoked running Terminators on a particular mission, then you just want to have another go. Great game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 23:59:37
Subject: Re:Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Fixture of Dakka
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Picked up one of these today, thanks to seeing it on the table.
If GW can keep this sort of quality, they could easily pip out two or three more expansions without going GW over it and pee in our faces and call it rain.
Shop had plenty of boxes, and I was halfway tempted to get one or two more.
This thing at first glance is HEAVY. There is a full box without the usual cut corners and throw a wacky price for gak, the tree is a heck of a lot in the box for the price.
Just when I was happy wallowing on my hate, GW gives me a little hope. ( Of course they will pull out the rug, but in this game I can have just a little faith.)
Best thing to me is that it seems to be able to connect with the older stuff so I can get in on some of that Vengence of the Blood Angels action.
might even have to hunt down a few more of the termies for this particular game as well. I will of course be adding in a few of my old ones, but these particular termies are a pretty good halvesies between old and new style.
Finally , I have a reason to say good job to GW.
Mark this day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 00:20:55
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Was cruising the US webstore a bit ago, looking at the Dark Eldar stuff, and noticed Space Hulk has been tagged 'No longer available'. Took a bit longer in the US, but no more web orders...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 00:56:42
Subject: Re:Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Fixture of Dakka
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Your best bet is your FLGS this weekend. Next week I see them going to be sold out.
Crazy thing to me was I mat those meddling kids that didn't even know what Space Hulk was...
Get off my lawn, you little monsters!!!
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 01:15:23
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Just search the locals if you're looking for one, they'll be out there...somewhere...maybe.
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Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 01:19:07
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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Nice, GW have shipped my order. Will get it by Tuesday all being well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 01:33:49
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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CptJake wrote:I got a shipping notice from The Warstore, my copy will arrive Monday.

I'd really like us to start a new page so I don't have to be assaulted by this image every time I open the thread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 04:21:36
Subject: Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Oh and there is a White Dwarf exclusive mission. That's a nice touch.
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Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 05:08:57
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I got my copy today. Right when nvidia releases new graphics cards, too. Sheesh... Spulk is a brick of a game. Haven't cracked the seal, but I'm looking forward to finish some projects up to paint that.
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/20 05:46:22
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Can we get some (good) photos of the new tiles? Danke.
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