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"Personally, I don't give a gak about the money. That seems to be one of your primary concerns, since you keep bringing it up. Why is that?"
I'm interested in politics and history, especially American politics and history, and it's a shame to see money down the drain, when the poor of America are struggling with food/heating/bills/staying alive etc etc
I'm a man of the people
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Sir Arun wrote: Anybody already seen with what arrogance these bastards destroy holy shrines in Iraq?
Shia shrines are not holy to Sunni fundamentalists. They probably think they're doing the world a favour by blowing them up.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
If muslim extremists were smart they would realize that a constant low intensity brush war with the west is the best situation for them. They have a constant string of incidents to aid recruitment and they can tout whatever minor victories they achieve. However, I don't think most muslim extremists are smart. If and when they actually do something bad enough to shift the moral attitude of the west into a 'crusading' mindset, it will be a nightmare. Mostly for them. And it will be a short nightmare.
I wasn't talking about Christians and the West Crusading. It's happened where it went the other way (Suleiman's European campaigns spring to mind), as well, and was long, and bloody. If ISIS can gain a critical mass, it IS possible.
And, no, here's the 'best situation' (for them): a US defeat in Syria would consolidate their position as not only a power, but as a movement internationally. And, before you even start, yes such a thing IS possible. Committing insufficient forces on the ground to stop them would end in a US defeat. The mentality of their troops might be something out of the dark ages, but their officers are competent and educated by the US in how the US makes war. Their men are now trained and equipped to, if not US standards, close enough to make even a relatively minor numbers disparity an actual issue. They're disciplined enough that they're not breaking under airstrikes, and have on occasion actually made advances despite them. And there have been aircraft losses due to the fact that they managed to steal several means to counter air power.
I want you stop and consider US public reaction if, for example, the US were to lose a carrier to ISIS. Even factoring in the few launchers that Israel was able to take out, it's well within the realm of possibility considering they have possession of Russian made Onyx anti ship missiles.
Not pretty, is it? Political gridlock would take on whole new dimensions as blue states demanded an immediate withdrawal and red states demanded bloody vengeance. Bad when a country is already tearing itself apart politically as one side tries to score points on the other while neither achieves anything.
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BaronIveagh wrote: Hmm... Looking at the resources and numbers Isis is pouring in...
I propose Operation: Roach Motel
Hold as long as possible, and have the turks and kurds extract civvies to minimum safe distance, leaving behind a volunteer force to keep Isis fixed on the city.
Then burn their shadows into the pavement. It's already been largely emptied out by the fighting, so civilian casualties would be at a minimum, while maximizing the impact on Isis.
They want to rise to God in a pillar of fire? That can be arraigned.
I vote we re-enact the bombing of Dresden on *%$!#! gakkers. I'm pretty sure with today's incendiaries we could actually turn the desert to glass, especially with say 4-5 strait days of 24/7 sustained bombing.
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I vote we re-enact the bombing of Dresden on *%$!#! gakkers. I'm pretty sure with today's incendiaries we could actually turn the desert to glass, especially with say 4-5 strait days of 24/7 sustained bombing.
Sadly, even the US lacks the heavy bombing capacity to perform such a feat in this day and age. That and using incendiaries to annihilate a city is a war crime. Using a nuke to do the same thing is a little murkier, due to the influence of certain parties in writing international laws.
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It was done so quietly in the sixth season premiere that some fans didn’t even notice two guys pulling down and rolling away the large circular blue ISIS sign. Archer and company, for the past five years have been working for ISIS, International Secret Intelligence Service. In light of recent world events in the middle east it’s easy to see why the creator of Archer, Adam Reed and the show’s producers Matt Thompson and Casey Willis decided to make this change to the show.
Reed recently talked with The Daily Beast saying:
We quietly did. We were waiting for it to go away—at least I was. Back in Season 5, FX said, ‘This might be a thing,’ and I thought, ‘Maybe it won’t be? Maybe it’ll be the mole that I’m gonna ignore and nothing will happen.’
We got sort of lucky and could organically make a merger with the CIA, so we went back and retroactively painted out the ISIS logos in parts of the show, and we just don’t talk about it in dialogue.
It’s just the most awful thing, and we didn’t want to have anything to do with it.
Although a different version was shown at SDCC 2014, the decision was made to go back and insert the moving scene to put the troubling ISIS acronym to rest. Now Archer and the rest work for the CIA.
Thompson addressed why and their reasoning behind how they made the change saying:
We won’t say ISIS anymore, and the only visual representation of it will be that sign rolling off the show. It’s just the most awful thing, and we didn’t want to have anything to do with it. There were people online saying that we should address it and say, ‘Oh, I can’t believe these guys have co-opted our name.’ That’s the way South Park would do it, coming after them and saying, ‘These donkey-caves stole our name,’ but that’s not the way the Archer universe works, where it’s all our own creations. In our universe, they don’t exist.
There are no plans to go back and change anything in the first five season, and most fans have already bought DVDs of those seasons anyways. FX is stuck with a crap-load of ISIS merchandise that will gather dust until most likely getting destroyed and written off as a tax deduction.
Jessica Walter, who plays Malory Archer, the spy master and crazy as hell mother of our hero Archer had this to say:
I’m one of the few people that have the white ISIS cup and it’s mixed in with all my other cups. The other day, I was looking at it and thought, ‘Should I throw it out? But it reminds me of Archer.’
Creator Adam Reed related a funny story about a conversation he had with his father the other day:
I gave my Dad one of the ISIS hats and he said, ‘You know son, I’m not going to be able to wear the hat anymore. I’m gettin’ looks at the hardware store.’
Reed also discussed the meeting with FX in which they discussed all that ISIS merchandise:
I was at a meeting with the FX execs and I said, ‘You know, with all this extra ISIS merchandise, you should just make the bad guys buy it.’ Dead silence. And then they said, ‘We have a lot of ISIS merchandise.’ So I guess that’s all going to a landfill somewhere.
I’m guessing that as soon as this news makes the Internet rounds any Archer ISIS stuff might get a quick spike in price as collectors try to make a quick buck.
Thousands of jihadi fighters from the murderous ISIS terrorist group surrounded Baghdad Sunday and were prepared to mount an assault.
More than 10,000 of the fanatical barbarians had gathered outside the Iraqi capital, poised to take it by force, an Iraqi official told Britain’s Telegraph newspaper.
Sabah al-Karhout, president of the provisional council of Anbar Province, told the paper that the fighters had advanced as far as Abu Ghraib, a suburb.
He said Iraq needed US aid because the western part of the country had fallen largely under the control of ISIS.
In response, the United States called in Apache helicopters to keep Iraqi forces from being overrun by ISIS savages near Baghdad’s airport.
Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the militants had come within 15 miles of the airport and had overrun the Iraqis.
“It was a straight shot to the airport,” he told ABC’s “This Week.” “So we’re not going to allow that to happen.”
Also on Sunday, three suicide bombings killed 58 people, many of them Kurdish security forces, in Qara Tappah, northeast of Baghdad. And a roadside bomb killed Anbar Province’s police chief and six civilians.
Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday that while US-led strikes would weaken ISIS, it was ultimately up to the Iraqis to fight the group off.
“It is Iraqis who will have to take back Iraq. It is Iraqis in Anbar who will have to fight for Anbar,” he said.
Later Sunday, Turkey offered support to the campaign against ISIS by finally granting the US access to its air bases.
Sen. John McCain, however, said the US was failing to stop the jihadist onslaught and needed to ramp up airstrikes as the militants battled to seize the Syrian border city of Kobani.
“They’re winning, and we’re not,” he told CNN’s “State of the Union.” “There has to be a fundamental re-evaluation of what we’re doing because we are not degrading and ultimately destroying ISIS.”
ISIS’s advance on the largely Kurdish city of Kobani has sent 200,000 residents fleeing.
Kerry said the US-led coalition must act to stop it.
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Going to predict US involvement at the 10 mile marker from the BIAP. If not we need to unass everything in the Green Zone
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I seriously do not understand what the hell the Iraqi army is doing.
I mean what the actual gak? According to Global Firewpoer the Iraqi army has like 241,000 active military personell, 212 aircraft, 137 helicopters, 357 tanks, over four thousand IFVs....
even if several dozen of those were lost when the army retreated - scratch that - fled the North, they should technically have a much bigger force concentration in the south now.
Why the hell arent they launching a major offensive? I get the feeling everyone has retreated to Baghdad and is hiding behind the city's walls.
It's like the Iraqis actually dont care about their own country being overrun - not even the Shia majority in the South seem to care apart from holding onto Baghdad.
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Sir Arun wrote: I seriously do not understand what the hell the Iraqi army is doing.
I mean what the actual gak? According to Global Firewpoer the Iraqi army has like 241,000 active military personell, 212 aircraft, 137 helicopters, 357 tanks, over four thousand IFVs....
even if several dozen of those were lost when the army retreated - scratch that - fled the North, they should technically have a much bigger force concentration in the south now.
Why the hell arent they launching a major offensive? I get the feeling everyone has retreated to Baghdad and is hiding behind the city's walls.
It's like the Iraqis actually dont care about their own country being overrun - not even the Shia majority in the South seem to care apart from holding onto Baghdad.
At Mosul ISIS won despite being outnumbered 40:1. Because the Iraqi army's morale is THAT low. Thirty THOUSAND troops rabbited from 800 ISIS fighters attack.
How'd you feel about an Army that makes you give half your paycheck to officers who regularly flee, or worse, take the money, then defect to ISIS?
From what I've heard, everyone in the Iraqi military started grabbing what they can and running. This has led to a very through collapse of the officer corps and the troops faith in their officers. That and a sizable number of that 241k troops may now be fighting for ISIS, taking their gear with them as the Iraqi army splits along sectarian lines. A good deal of the rest of it was seized when various military bases fell in the confusion. Sadly, not one soldier was so creative as to, say, put a grenade in the breech before rabbiting. So US made M1 tanks, helos, AFVs, and so on and so forth, are now in ISIS hands.
We don't know how many fighters ISIS actually has, but we do know that number is getting larger rather than smaller. It's probably higher than the usual 50k that gets bandied about.
Going to predict US involvement at the 10 mile marker from the BIAP. If not we need to unass everything in the Green Zone
I'll say they get to five miles, at least, if they managed another push like the last one. It reminded me too much of something I remember hearing about from WW2 where the marines captured the airfield and were doing attack runs off it at targets 200 yards from the end of the runway.
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Experiment 626 wrote: [
I vote we re-enact the bombing of Dresden on *%$!#! gakkers. I'm pretty sure with today's incendiaries we could actually turn the desert to glass, especially with say 4-5 strait days of 24/7 sustained bombing.
Sadly, even the US lacks the heavy bombing capacity to perform such a feat in this day and age. That and using incendiaries to annihilate a city is a war crime. Using a nuke to do the same thing is a little murkier, due to the influence of certain parties in writing international laws.
This would be a good argument if we were fighting a conventional enemy on the typical basis of geo-political grounds, such as say a spat between the US and China/Russia or such.
Against a group that is neither recognised as a legitimate government/state AND who's only stated goal is the complete eradication of human civilization, the political leadership here in the west needs to wake up and realise that our rules need to be considered 'guidelines' at times.
Sometimes you need to throw your morals out the window when dealing with something as downright barbaric & evil as ISIS. These guys make the Nazi's look like wannabe's!
Granted nuking territories or resorting to chemical/bio weapons is absolutely out of the question, but I still say we should glass ISIS strongholds and burn them out. There are times when the ends truly do justify the means.
Well, it looks like the Turks have made a move...they've launched attacks against the Kurds!
Or more specifically, the Kurdish workers' party, for supposed violations of their peace treaty.
As I said in an area post, this whole situation is bordering on farcical.
Al Jazeera are reporting that Coalition airstrikes are widely ineffective. I don't blame the pilots, but when you've got an American president who's marking time until 2016, it's no wonder this half assed attitude is leading to an air of gloom.
I've been going through my copy of Sun Tzu's art of war and checking which side fulfils Tzu's victory conditions the best. I'm afraid it's a victory for ISIL, as things stand.
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deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
No. No they're not. Come back when they're setting up extermination camps on an industrial scale.
The only reason why they haven't done that is because they don't have the capacity to do it. Their ideologies are pretty similar even if one was based on racism and the other is based on religious extremism.
According to Judicial Watch, it has been confirmed by Homeland Security sources that four Islamic terrorists have been apprehended in the last 36 hours by federal authorities and the Texas Department of Public Safety in McAllen and Pharr. California Congressman Duncan Hunter, a former Marine Corp Major and member of the House Armed Services Committee, disclosed on national television that at least ten Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) fighters have been caught crossing the Mexican border in Texas.
Hunter believes, “If you really want to protect Americans from ISIS, you secure the southern border.” He went on to point out that, "ISIS doesn’t have a navy, they don’t have an air force, they don’t have nuclear weapons. The only way that ISIS is going to harm Americans is by coming in through the southern border – which they already have.”
Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Republican from Utah, said four alleged terror suspects were captured on Sept. 10 in Texas. In an interview with BuzzFeedNews on Wednesday, Chaffetz said the men flew from a Middle Eastern country to Mexico City, where they paid a smuggler to take them to and across the border. From there, the men ended up in a safe house for immigrants. They were en route to New York City, Chaffetz said, when they were captured.
Although Chaffetz would not reveal his source of the information, he said he confirmed it with government officials. “I had an informant tell me about it and then I questioned the Secretary of Homeland Security,” he said. “I have no doubt about its authenticity.”
CBS reported on Wednesday that the Department of Homeland Security released a statement that claims alleging Islamic State militants have been apprehended at the Mexican border are “categorically false.” The DHS insists they have no credible intelligence that suggests terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson says that Islamic State militants are not entering the U.S. through the southern border. Johnson was responding to a claim made by Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., that at least 10 Islamic State operatives were detained trying to come in from Mexico.
Congressman Hunter, however, isn't buying that explanation. His spokesman told BuzzFeed News Wednesday that they have evidence from reliable sources about “foreign nationals” being captured along the border. Kasper said those foreign nationals may not technically be ISIS fighters, but do have suspected terror group affiliations. Kasper did not identify his sources but said that Hunter’s office remains convinced that the lawmaker was correct.
Our worst fears may already be realized because despite the recent surge of immigrants from Central America and other parts of the world at the southern border, the Obama administration has been unwilling to deploy the National Guard or other military assets to back up the Border Patrol. With the Border Patrol overwhelmed by a massive influx, illegal immigrants have been walking across the southern border into Texas from at least 75 different countries, and not just from Central America. Many of those apprehended in the Rio Grande area and elsewhere are released into the country after being initially detained by Border Patrol agents.
Is it plausible that ISIS is already in America after crossing the U.S.-Mexican border?
The Obama Administration's head of HS admitted they had four persons but wouldn't admit to them being terrorists. I saw the interview...live. It was disconcerting.
Our prior interventions in the middle east have not worked out so hot.
Solution:
Intervene in the middle east.
if that doesnt work,
try intervening in the middle east.
(only half serious, I know its not quuuite that simple, but it almost is)
If anything we should be pulling out, and preparing to protect our own lands as the west is uniquely vulnerable to attack due to being free, democratic societies that welcome immigration.
At least if we were not actively bombing the ME, we stop throwing fuel on the martyr fire to a degree... we are damned if we do, damned if we dont, dont costs less.
I mean, if thousands of ISIS people are jihading all the way over to the ME, how many are jihading here, or are already here?
Only takes a few dozen people to do some crazy stuff.
Easy Sauce has the way of it.
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sarpedons-right-hand wrote: According to the local news here in Istanbul, ISIS are streaming in reinforcements to Kobane. And still the Turkish Govt sit on their hands. Why can't they just forget the Kurdish problem and unite against a common enemy?
Some of the pictures here are just astonishing...
Why do you think they think ISIS is a common enemy? Who do you think ISIS is selling oil to?
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BaronIveagh wrote: Hmm... Looking at the resources and numbers Isis is pouring in...
I propose Operation: Roach Motel
Hold as long as possible, and have the turks and kurds extract civvies to minimum safe distance, leaving behind a volunteer force to keep Isis fixed on the city.
Then burn their shadows into the pavement. It's already been largely emptied out by the fighting, so civilian casualties would be at a minimum, while maximizing the impact on Isis.
They want to rise to God in a pillar of fire? That can be arraigned.
When I say stuff like that, people call me names and report me to the Mod Squad.
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Is Turkey part of this Coalition Obama/Kerry building?
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No. No they're not. Come back when they're setting up extermination camps on an industrial scale.
Remember that they didn't START with death factories. Originally they had more of a Cottage Industry approach to it, which is very much where ISIS is now, driving around, rounding up minorities and executing them. Muslim Einsatzgruppen
A better comparison might be Rwanda, what with the preference for beheading and all.
Edit: been thinking about this, and the US does have one ally that might not only be interested in fighting ISIS, but actually be pretty gung ho about it, and unlikely to have US made gear end up in the hands of terrorists (or, at least, terrorists according to the US).
Someone needs to get the ambassador in Ulan Bator on the phone.
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The Hague (AFP) - The Dutch public prosecutor said on Tuesday that motorbike gang members who have reportedly joined Kurds battling the Islamic State group in Iraq are not necessarily committing any crime.
"Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable, now it's no longer forbidden," public prosecutor spokesman Wim de Bruin told AFP.
"You just can't join a fight against the Netherlands," he told AFP after reports emerged that Dutch bikers from the No Surrender gang were fighting IS insurgents alongside Kurds in northern Iraq.
The head of No Surrender, Klaas Otto, told state broadcaster NOS that three members who travelled to near Mosul in northern Iraq were from Dutch cities Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Breda.
A photograph on a Dutch-Kurdish Twitter account shows a tattooed Dutchman called Ron in military garb, holding a Kalashnikov assault rifle while sat with a Kurdish comrade.
Video footage apparently from a Kurdish broadcaster shows an armed European man with Kurdish fighters saying in Dutch: "The Kurds have been under pressure for a long time."
Many countries including the Netherlands have been clamping down on their nationals trying to join IS jihadists who have taken over swathes of Iraq and Syria.
Measures include confiscating would-be jihadists' passports before travelling and threatening prosecution should they return.
"The big difference with IS is that it's listed as a terrorist group," said De Bruin.
"That means that even preparing to join IS is punishable."
Dutch citizens could not however join the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), as it is blacklisted as a terrorist organisation by Ankara and much of the international community, De Bruin said.
Dutch citizens fighting on the Kurdish side would of course be liable to prosecution if they committed crimes such as torture or rape, De Bruin said.
"But this is also happening a long way away and so it'll be very difficult to prove," said De Bruin.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
I've said it before and I'm saying it again, if there's anybody from the US congress reading this, do the following:
1) Pass an act that gives me the rank of General of the Armies for 90 days
2) Give me 100,000 American troops.
3) Grant me permission to wear Stonewall Jackson's hat!
If the following happens, I'll end this ISIS business once and for all and have the troops back for Thanksgiving.
Sure, the Middle East would be a smoking ruin and I'd probably attempt an Alexander Hamilton style power grab back in Washington, but it's a small price to pay for peace and stability in the ME
The above happens every time I read a book about Napoleon - I get delusions of grandeur
Still, considering how crazy and complex the situation is, it probably makes more sense than most solutions.
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I'd have to wear Grant's hat myself though. Pick the winning side!
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Frazzled wrote: My level of respect just rose three notches.
I'd have to wear Grant's hat myself though. Pick the winning side!
Actually, my first choice would have been MacArthur's corn cob pipe, but then I remembered that would be unhygienic.
It has to be Jackson over Grant. We need bold moves striking at the enemy's heart - a Grant style war of attrition would break the promise of having the troops home by Thanksgiving
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Ok, then you need Sherman's hat. Lets burn us a state...
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Frazzled wrote: My level of respect just rose three notches.
I'd have to wear Grant's hat myself though. Pick the winning side!
Actually, my first choice would have been MacArthur's corn cob pipe, but then I remembered that would be unhygienic.
It has to be Jackson over Grant. We need bold moves striking at the enemy's heart - a Grant style war of attrition would break the promise of having the troops home by Thanksgiving
Give me Patton's helmet and I'll take command of all the tanks Failing that, I want the same hat that Edward Teatch wore (or at least the same style)
Sure, the Middle East would be a smoking ruin and I'd probably attempt an Alexander Hamilton style power grab back in Washington, but it's a small price to pay for peace and stability in the ME
Posts like this are why I love Dakka.
I had a similar plan were we just bomb them into oblivion, but your plan would be legendary is implemented.
Yes Children, in 2014 the US appointed it's first and only '90 General' and gave him 100,000 troops to handle the terrrorist threat in what was once known as the middle east. You may know it as the fields of rememberance. A reminder to us all that Religous fantaticism, and the kind of power one gets when suddenly appointed 100,000 troops, corrupts the human soul and must not be tolerated.
Sure, the Middle East would be a smoking ruin and I'd probably attempt an Alexander Hamilton style power grab back in Washington, but it's a small price to pay for peace and stability in the ME
Posts like this are why I love Dakka.
I had a similar plan were we just bomb them into oblivion, but your plan would be legendary is implemented.
Yes Children, in 2014 the US appointed it's first and only '90 General' and gave him 100,000 troops to handle the terrrorist threat in what was once known as the middle east. You may know it as the fields of rememberance. A reminder to us all that Religous fantaticism, and the kind of power one gets when suddenly appointed 100,000 troops, corrupts the human soul and must not be tolerated.
From time to time, you have to joke about these subjects, because if you thought about them too hard, you'd go mad.
Politics, foreign affairs, and military history are keen interests of mine. Having followed this situation for weeks, I've came to one inescapable conclusion: NOBODY knows what the dakka they're doing!
Wheeling out Richard Nixon's corpse and asking it for advice would probably resolve the situation better than lame duck Obama.
In his heart America and Obama probably don't want to get involved, and I respect that and to be honest, support that choice, but this are we in or are we out approach, will result in the needless deaths of American service personnel or probably cause more damage to the region in the long run.
Frazzled wrote: My level of respect just rose three notches.
I'd have to wear Grant's hat myself though. Pick the winning side!
Actually, my first choice would have been MacArthur's corn cob pipe, but then I remembered that would be unhygienic.
It has to be Jackson over Grant. We need bold moves striking at the enemy's heart - a Grant style war of attrition would break the promise of having the troops home by Thanksgiving
Give me Patton's helmet and I'll take command of all the tanks Failing that, I want the same hat that Edward Teatch wore (or at least the same style)
Pretty sure that Teach's hat is in the British museum and thus property of the BRITISH crown. Keep your American paws off
Says the hypocrite demanding Jackson's hat
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Blood Ravens (using Ravenguard CT) 1500 l 
1500 l
I hope they get the support they need to keep it up.