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I say old chap!

The shine on that codpiece is spectacular!

I was really surprised to see the Gulliman preview yesterday, but I guess I should have seen it coming as FW always "promotes" a new book with a model that is also related to that book. But I am really sad that Dorn will not be out in the near future. Also read elsewhere that the IF Command model was originally to be intended to resemble Sigismund, but they were not happy with it (and I agree there). But that explains some of the discussions we had here. But I guess that Sigismund also will not be available in the near future.

Overall I was disappointed with the Weekender. As a guy interested in SM characters and special units there was not much exciting stuff. The Alpha Legion character was the only highlight. Gulliman will be awesome as everything by Eagan, but that's about it ...

After seeing the Guilliman preview I'm kinda glad they didn't go for the all power fist look. May as well just field Calgar as Guilliman if they did that.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
After seeing the Guilliman preview I'm kinda glad they didn't gp for the all power fist look. May as well just field Calgar as Guilliman if they did that.

Well, apart from the massive size difference and almost certainly vastly better model

Gotta say, I like Girlyman. I know it's still a wip but I think he looks good. Be interesting to see how he turns out.

I've not actually seen a Primarch model stood next to your bog standard Astartes (well none that were dead or dying on their base)

Heres Lorgar:

Err... OK that's a pretty big size difference!! Though if I remember right, Lorgar was pretty big wasn't he?

Nah, if anything Lorgar was one of the smaller ones, he definitely wasn't especially big.

Here's Horus next to Typhon, who's in terminator armour so fairly large himself:

And Vulkan is larger than Horus he stands eye to eye with a washing machine dread

It will be interesting to see how big the Cyclops will be.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_THE_SIEGE_OF_VRAKS.html

revised Vraks book

Imperial Armour – The Siege of Vraks gathers together and presents afresh the story of this monumental conflict, previously published in Imperial Armour Volumes Five, Six and Seven. As well as extensive background information on the siege and the forces engaged in it, such as the Red Scorpions Space Marines Chapter, the Grey Knights and the World Eaters Chaos Space Marines, this 288-page, full colour hardback book contains updated rules and army lists for the Death Korps of Krieg and the Renegades of Vraks. Also included are the heraldry and iconography of the forces deployed to Vraks and rules for the lords and heroes of each faction, including Inquisitor-Lord Hector Rex and the vile Mamon, Daemon Prince of Nurgle.

Isn't it said that Vulkan , Magnus and Khan to be the tallest primarchs?

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
I'm honestly not a fan of any of the night lord HH stuff. I think they are trying way to hard to make them look gory and spooky, sometimes less is more.

I don't think "less is more" has ever been applied to the Night Lords. Definitely not in models. I pity the person who has to attempt to make a decent design with the limitation of "they have to have bat wings on their heads".

Actually they don't. The wings were largely ceremonial and not worn in combat. Wearing people was a lot more common then actually mounting bat wings on their helmets.

And what's wrong with wearing people? The human leather gloves on the Raptors just looks downright devious. Hell the Night Lords are more like the Dark Eldar then the Emperor's Children are.

I can't belive I'm saying this, but I love those Ultrasmurfs! They would look great for my Minotaurs/Carcharodons! Along with so many other 30k stuff.

Man, the HH stuff just gets me more amped to start working on my XIIth Legion project (soon, soon...). And I'm excited for the World Eaters to get more goodies in book 6. Seems like they hinted a new Angron sculpt is on the way. I haven't even started painting the current, non-daemonic version. But I'm ready to get some Ruinstorm on!

Guilliman looks great and I'm sure all the UM stuff will. I was never a fan of the UM, but Abnett really made them shine in Know No Fear, probably my 2nd favorite book in the whole series. Those guys are heroes...and it's too bad my XIIth is going to chew them up with chainaxes.

So the speculation on Battle Bunnies is that after Guilliman, Corax is next (apparently the jump pack wings may have been giving them some trouble?), then Perturabo, who will be the 1st primarch done in CAD. At least those seem to be the primarchs that sculptors are talking about.

Corax better have a jump pack.

Why wouldn't he?

I think he loses it after the Dropsite Massacre.

Well he loses the one he had then while he led the traitors on a merry chase round Istvaan (and there's rules for that too, you can pay less points and he loses his jump pack and has a heavy bolter) but I'm sure he gets a new one afterwards. I'm almost certain his model with have the Jump Pack because it's in his rules. There may be an option to not use it for the cheaper version of him though.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Well he loses the one he had then while he led the traitors on a merry chase round Istvaan (and there's rules for that too, you can pay less points and he loses his jump pack and has a heavy bolter) but I'm sure he gets a new one afterwards. I'm almost certain his model with have the Jump Pack because it's in his rules. There may be an option to not use it for the cheaper version of him though.

Well if the cover of Ravenlord (set after the Dropsite Massacre) is anything to go by, he begins using a standard jump pack.

Yeah so he still has a jump pack, is that not what I said?

Updated Vraks! And it's once book! Yay!!!!

Well, the designers apparently commented that they solved the issue they had with a certain piece of gear for a certain primarch. So yeah, if it's Corax, it sounds like he'll get the Pinions. Although the problem piece could also be the whip.

Yeah, he can be fielded as he was in the aftermath of the Dropsite Massacre (wounded, no Pinions, no archeotech pistols), but the regular profile has the wings and I think we can assume the model will too.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah so he still has a jump pack, is that not what I said?

Yes...I was agreeing with you. I recalled that Ravenlord (set after Istvaan) has Corax on the cover.

I thought he was no longer using jump packs becausehe has a combi melta on the cover, which you don't typically see with jump packs so I double checked and found that he does have a jump pack after all.


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Anyone know if he lost the Korvadine Pinions for good at the Dropsite Massacre, or were they recovered and repaired?

Oooh vraks book wonder what new goodies come in that all pointing to the upcoming csm book.
Oh and iirc yes he left the pinoins at isstvan somthing like without them can fit one more marine on the t.hawk.

 e.earnshaw wrote:
Oooh vraks book wonder what new goodies come in that all pointing to the upcoming csm book.

Don't think anything new jumps out?

Just a fiddle to bring the rules up to date I expect (and a condensation.)

According to what I read in the HH books his Pinions were shattered but the remaining legion techmarine had scavenged many of the parts and brought them back to deliverance. He is trying to figure out how to recraft them, but they are lost technology and he was only an apprentice at the time of the massacre.