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Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.

WTF?

Then he tells me he's LEAVING terrain so he doesnt have to make Dangerous terrain with his Necron skimmers.

Picks up a few 2's to hit and rolls to wound, just because he really wants to know if my glasses are working.

Then tries to tell me the game is over because I started the turn without anything on the board turn 4 (again, obviously wrong and half my army was scheduled to show up turn 4 automatically!)

WTF.

Then he tells me that esentially my vehicle thats 11 inches away by his own estimation can be Warescythed by his chariot who apparently can move on TOP of me, hover and then move back without passing over me and somehow "bumping" back an extra inch because he cant end within 1". Eh... No. Pass over me or no attack. Sorry bub. No free movement. To pull that off you gotta' be 11" to base, 0.1 to get over me, 0.1 to get back to right in front of me and then 1.1 back to be more than an inch away. 12.2 or 12.3 inches minimum... which is more than its legal move.

WTF?

I was fuming and I was hostile. If you run into this guy, punch him in the face for me. Better yet , do worse: Don't play him, ever.

 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.

WTF?

Then he tells me he's LEAVING terrain so he doesnt have to make Dangerous terrain with his Necron skimmers.

Picks up a few 2's to hit and rolls to wound, just because he really wants to know if my glasses are working.

Then tries to tell me the game is over because I started the turn without anything on the board turn 4 (again, obviously wrong and half my army was scheduled to show up turn 4 automatically!)

WTF.

Then he tells me that esentially my vehicle thats 11 inches away by his own estimation can be Warescythed by his chariot who apparently can move on TOP of me, hover and then move back without passing over me and somehow "bumping" back an extra inch because he cant end within 1". Eh... No. Pass over me or no attack. Sorry bub. No free movement. To pull that off you gotta' be 11" to base, 0.1 to get over me, 0.1 to get back to right in front of me and then 1.1 back to be more than an inch away. 12.2 or 12.3 inches minimum... which is more than its legal move.

WTF?

I was fuming and I was hostile. If you run into this guy, punch him in the face for me. Better yet , do worse: Don't play him, ever.

Right at the Infiltrate part, I would have packed up and left. No point playing a donkey cave like that. That or grab the other guys in the store and mob him

Quoted from another post of mine:

I would like to personally extend my thanks to the wagbag I played a game with today at my local Games Workshop. Alas your name has slipped my mind as it must have been just as forgettable as your disgusting facial hair and stench. Maybe forgettable isn't the correct word for that since i'm pretty sure your putrid odor is stuck to me.
Anyway, I would like to thank you for playing a game of good ole' warhammer 40k with me. I especially liked the parts where you stopped the game multiple times to ogle the women walking past the store, including the one that stopped and looked genuinely interested until you winked at her and she promptly left. Also thank you for outright lying to me, a new player, about some of the rules I was not familiar about.

But most of all thank you for saying your precious Necrons reanimate on a 3+. I actually checked this rule afterward so thanks for being a huge piece of gak.

 jreilly89 wrote:

Right at the Infiltrate part, I would have packed up and left. No point playing a donkey cave like that. That or grab the other guys in the store and mob him

WAH hahahahaha. Donkey Cave. I LOVE that and am TOTALLY stealing that. I'm probably dumb for not knowing that euphimism before but whatever. Its mine now.

As for packing it up, I did eventually just concede and tell him we were done. I was goingto lose, no shame in admitting it since he basically was able to rape my force turn one. I made a game of it but it was just whatevs time by round 4.

 Jancoran wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Right at the Infiltrate part, I would have packed up and left. No point playing a donkey cave like that. That or grab the other guys in the store and mob him

WAH hahahahaha. Donkey Cave. I LOVE that and am TOTALLY stealing that. I'm probably dumb for not knowing that euphimism before but whatever. Its mine now.

As for packing it up, I did eventually just concede and tell him we were done. I was goingto lose, no shame in admitting it since he basically was able to rape my force turn one. I made a game of it but it was just whatevs time by round 4.

The site automatically changes a$$hole to donkeycave

Jeez I wonder where you guys find some of these guys... worst I had was a guy trying to sell me the idea DE can assault from Infiltrate.

I never REALLY had Tfg horror story experience, thankfully the worst part was when i played against the GK draigowing, his paladins mishapped in deepstrike and the argument aroused because i rolled one on the tables not him and he made a fit because of it

 Jancoran wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Right at the Infiltrate part, I would have packed up and left. No point playing a donkey cave like that. That or grab the other guys in the store and mob him

WAH hahahahaha. Donkey Cave. I LOVE that and am TOTALLY stealing that. I'm probably dumb for not knowing that euphimism before but whatever. Its mine now.

As for packing it up, I did eventually just concede and tell him we were done. I was goingto lose, no shame in admitting it since he basically was able to rape my force turn one. I made a game of it but it was just whatevs time by round 4.

If you like donkey cave, you should try shat goblin, that one was floating around this site for a while.

One day, A friend and I go to our local GW and pick a table to start playing. Two guys (we both knew them and saw them play regularly) come in and ask us if we'd be interested in a 2v2 because all tables were occupied. Since we both knew the guys and from experience knew they were pleasant people, we agreed.

We set up our armies, and suddenly, one of them goes off on his friend because he didn't field any riptides.
From what I understood, he always fields at least 1 riptide when playing against him. The Tau player said he wanted to try something else. His friend just started throwing a tantrum and would continue to make remarks on it every couple of minutes.

At one point, the guy warned him that it was his army and he could field whatever he felt like, and if the guy kept nagging him about it, he'd just pack and leave.
About 1 minute later, the guy makes a snarky remark about Riptides and the other guy just starts packing his models without saying a word, walks over to our side, gives us a hand and an apology and leaves the store.
The other guy was totally dumbstruck the entire time. Haven't seen them play each other ever since although I play both of them regularly now.

There was an escalation league at my FLGS a while ago trying to get kids into the game. 500 points first week and building to 2000 points over a couple months. Pay to play every week with the money going to a weekly pot and an overall pot of store credit you could win. Pretty standard, I don't think there was anyone older than their early 20s and there were a couple kids who were probably around 15. Really nice group of people to play with and no one was bringing really beatstick tourney lists.

Until we hit like 1500 points and this dude who I'd guess was in his mid to late 30's shows up because he heard there was a tourney going on. Nothing wrong with that, it was pretty casual and people had been sort of coming in and out week to week. So he pays for the week and pulls out a daemon deathstar rerollable 2++ list and rolls everyone. Whatever, he thought it was a legit tournament.

A couple weeks later he comes back for 1850 and brings a beautifully converted traitor guard list that could have beat everyone in the store with it's 3 vendettas (kids were still buying stuff the night before and putting them together for the next day. not a lot of strategic AA going around). But he had to ally them with Inquisition for cheap divination just to make it that much better. Then kept complaining that he had somewhere to be that night and people weren't playing fast enough for him.

I couldn't make it to the final week but apparently he showed up with a third army (keeping in mind this is escalation and it was ruled that you play the same army with no allies) and beat everyone and took the tourney pot of store credit. Pissed at the dude for pulling that stunt but actually more pissed off at the FLGS worker who was running the league for allowing it.

Worst part was that all the kids in the league who had dropped a lot of money into building up their armies got fed up with 40k and stopped playing all together.

I've only had a few cases with TFG but they are memorable.
So a guy who used to frequent my local store, typical douche picked on young kids bought a new army every month and always played over points. So he's playing a game of triumph and treachery with a few of the other regulars and first turn loses a single DE executioner decides to throw the model onto another table and then continues to swear loudly about how gak they are, so this goes on for the entire game which he ended up winning but it resulted in next to nobody wanting to play with him so karma kind of caught up.
Typical TFG.



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I've only had a few cases with TFG but they are memorable.
So a guy who used to frequent my local store, typical douche picked on young kids bought a new army every month and always played over points. So he's playing a game of triumph and treachery with a few of the other regulars and first turn loses a single DE executioner decides to throw the model onto another table and then continues to swear loudly about how gak they are, so this goes on for the entire game which he ended up winning but it resulted in next to nobody wanting to play with him so karma kind of caught up.
Typical TFG.

I am that guy… eating pizza and touching your models with greasy fingers. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Back in 5th I had a guy go buy some glue and a librarian. He put it together in the parking lot while I set up the table. Nullzone landraider shenanigans on my poor poor daemons. Boooo!

 Jancoran wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Right at the Infiltrate part, I would have packed up and left. No point playing a donkey cave like that. That or grab the other guys in the store and mob him

WAH hahahahaha. Donkey Cave. I LOVE that and am TOTALLY stealing that. I'm probably dumb for not knowing that euphimism before but whatever. Its mine now.

As for packing it up, I did eventually just concede and tell him we were done. I was goingto lose, no shame in admitting it since he basically was able to rape my force turn one. I made a game of it but it was just whatevs time by round 4.

Yeah, but winning through cheating =/= not really a loss in my book


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 bubz wrote:
There was an escalation league at my FLGS a while ago trying to get kids into the game. 500 points first week and building to 2000 points over a couple months. Pay to play every week with the money going to a weekly pot and an overall pot of store credit you could win. Pretty standard, I don't think there was anyone older than their early 20s and there were a couple kids who were probably around 15. Really nice group of people to play with and no one was bringing really beatstick tourney lists.

Until we hit like 1500 points and this dude who I'd guess was in his mid to late 30's shows up because he heard there was a tourney going on. Nothing wrong with that, it was pretty casual and people had been sort of coming in and out week to week. So he pays for the week and pulls out a daemon deathstar rerollable 2++ list and rolls everyone. Whatever, he thought it was a legit tournament.

A couple weeks later he comes back for 1850 and brings a beautifully converted traitor guard list that could have beat everyone in the store with it's 3 vendettas (kids were still buying stuff the night before and putting them together for the next day. not a lot of strategic AA going around). But he had to ally them with Inquisition for cheap divination just to make it that much better. Then kept complaining that he had somewhere to be that night and people weren't playing fast enough for him.

I couldn't make it to the final week but apparently he showed up with a third army (keeping in mind this is escalation and it was ruled that you play the same army with no allies) and beat everyone and took the tourney pot of store credit. Pissed at the dude for pulling that stunt but actually more pissed off at the FLGS worker who was running the league for allowing it.

Worst part was that all the kids in the league who had dropped a lot of money into building up their armies got fed up with 40k and stopped playing all together.

Feth that. I would have told the manager or whoever was running it the second he brought the 2nd army. That's a total violation of rules. I'm all for escalation tournies, but that crap makes my blood boil

Nothing TOO bad from me in the past few years, apart from one of those guys who will force you to move a unit inch by inch to be precise, and then go fast and loose with his movement. The guy was kind of an ass, he'd bring in pretty beefy fantasy lists with his son who ran far less toothy lists and armies and would just wail on him. Not a pleasant guy.

oftenwrong wrote:
I am that guy… eating pizza and touching your models with greasy fingers. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Back in 5th I had a guy go buy some glue and a librarian. He put it together in the parking lot while I set up the table. Nullzone landraider shenanigans on my poor poor daemons. Boooo!

Still got nothing on Warp Quake d-bagery on poor, poor Daemons...

One of the worst cases of TFG in 40k/Fantasy that I've seen was the gakhead who pulled out a full-on quake-shunt list against a poor kid's Daemon army. Poor Little Timmy never got to put a single model on the table as TFG took Coteaz for to help ensure 1st turn, quaked the entire table, and then pulled the juggling shenanigans to get the 50/50 "unit dies" result on the mishap table.
And then he had the stones to brag about his epicness, while telling the poor kid if he wants to win he should go buy a real army and not bring a Fantasy army to a 40k fight...


Mind you, I've seen way worse behavior from adults belittling kids during my days of on-ice officiating in hockey... you haven't seen real TFG attitudes until you see a grown 40-something year old man ragging on a 9 year old kid for allowing 8 goals in a freaking HOUSE LEAGUE game.
People like that deserve to burn in a car fire imho... I mean, it's freaking house league hockey for feth's sake!

The majority of these stories make me feel like a literal curb stomp on all of their models is justified, especially when they just have to win at the expense of fun for other people.

Don't have any stories of my own to share but I did hear of a guy at my old gaming club who would roll dice and decide where they went - whichever would benefit him more, never specified what he was rolling dice for, only saying 'yeah that's dead' for whatever. Played over points too and had the cheek to ask if whatever he did was fine, which of course it was not. I guess you can argue that the opponent should have made sure they weren't cheating but I'll give credit where it's due and it's not due here, TFG was garbage at playing, he almost always lost. No strategy whatsoever.

The funniest thing I heard about this was that he was playing Tau one day and had a few FW models on the table and hadn't brought IA:3 with him to show rules, merely stating what the rules were and what he could do with the model. My friend who plays Tau had, would luck have it, brought his copy and calmly but firmly pointed out to his opponent at the time how TFG couldn't do what he was doing.

Guy didn't get a lot of matches after that

There's a guy at who games at my local GW, he's looks about 50, and writes really cheesy lists and when you play him he's very patronising and every time you ask some things' toughness will pull out his codex just in case you don't believe him.

In one of my first games ever last year he used 3 tervigons against me in 500pts. He showed up to a 750pts tournament with 3 Wraithknights. Within weeks of new space wolves he had a 750pt drop pod list including murder fang with 3 pods falling on the 1st turn.

I talk to the other guys I game with and they all just tell me he's really good at writing lists, but when does writing good lists turn into spoiling the fun?

to be fair, most of the TFG people come from major metro areas where they can afford to get away with this stuff. Happens less in "local pools" but in hard core tourneis and on forums? theres a guy a minute asking "now the rules saaaay..."

Anyways, that guy screwed with the wrong hombre with me. I run most of the tournies locally. So...

Taffy17 wrote:
There's a guy at who games at my local GW, he's looks about 50, and writes really cheesy lists and when you play him he's very patronising and every time you ask some things' toughness will pull out his codex just in case you don't believe him.

In one of my first games ever last year he used 3 tervigons against me in 500pts. He showed up to a 750pts tournament with 3 Wraithknights. Within weeks of new space wolves he had a 750pt drop pod list including murder fang with 3 pods falling on the 1st turn.

I talk to the other guys I game with and they all just tell me he's really good at writing lists, but when does writing good lists turn into spoiling the fun?

Was that guy playing Unbound?

We have one guy at our club who may not really qualify as THE FG, but he's certainly an amusing variety of FG.

He plays guards, and space marines, which he plays as every chapter under the sun. He dedicates his life to finding, then either forgetting to read and misinterpreting the rules of some obscure unit, and convincing himself he's found the most hidden super secret broken OP thing in the codex.

Then he builds a list around it, usually dedicating like 800-1200 points to just fielding his weird ass unit. Then, when someone points out that he's misread the rule or the unit is actually illegal, he throws a tantrum that would make a seven year old blush and pouts as he loses while complaining about literally every die roll. He then proceeds to complain that the IG and SM are the most underpowered weak cod exes out there and whatever his opponent was playing was broken no matter what it was.

Some of my favorite highlights:

-SM biker squads with combat shields and Power Swords. maxed out squads, just swarms of them. He was convinced they would outperform terminators by a mile. I think he actually got the rules right on them. They got crunched by a foot-and-artillery guard list (broken OP of course).

-IG fortress with eight Battlecannon vengeance batteries. He didn't read the auto targeting rule and I believe had twice as many as he was allowed to

-Around thirty Lascannon armed SM Devastators. "They kill EVERYTHING! With 30 of them I can even wipe platoons of infantry off the map!" Got the rules right. Still hilarious.

-A whole army of just melta gun toting Militarium Tempestus.

-Five Paskishers "What do you mean, vehicles can't be independent characters they're not infantry!"

-6 vendettas back in the Age of Fliers "They're dedicated transports!"

-about twenty IG mortar teams. He thought they were armed with stormshard mortars.

Weirdo. Maybe he needs a sounding board for his lists. Local forums are good for that. I dont post many lists HERE because you either get what i call the sniper, who makes some one liner about it as if that says it all, or you get the guy whose telling you a hundred glittering generalities, like "Mutilators just arent points efficient" instead of looking at what it does IN the LIST which was the point of posting it in the first place.

TFG's are on forums 24/7 I guess. hehehehe.

I've only ever had good experiences. I attribute this to lucking out with the flgs's I've played at having really good people at them and having played relatively few serious games.

Not so much a TFG as a TFC...

Every other time I try and post on Daergthjuytka That Fricken Cat walks across my keyboard.

Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."

Well, there was "Ironman Magic" where every time a card was sacrificed, buried or destroyed it was physically destroyed, perhaps he got taught Ironman 40K.

Hell of a way for a store to maintain it's sales!

 Grimtuff wrote:
Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."

Is this GW's new way of getting people to buy new models?

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."

Is this GW's new way of getting people to buy new models?

I made that quip as well, but apparently he's banned from the local GW....

I really want to see this guy in action, but whilst my own figs are safely locked away.

Frozocrone wrote:

Taffy17 wrote:
There's a guy at who games at my local GW, he's looks about 50, and writes really cheesy lists and when you play him he's very patronising and every time you ask some things' toughness will pull out his codex just in case you don't believe him.

In one of my first games ever last year he used 3 tervigons against me in 500pts. He showed up to a 750pts tournament with 3 Wraithknights. Within weeks of new space wolves he had a 750pt drop pod list including murder fang with 3 pods falling on the 1st turn.

I talk to the other guys I game with and they all just tell me he's really good at writing lists, but when does writing good lists turn into spoiling the fun?

Was that guy playing Unbound?

Only with the Wraithknights, the Tervigons was still when you could apparently have one as an HQ and 2 as Troops.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Apparently one of our two FLGSs were witness to one this weekend.

Now, bear in mind this info is second hand as I was told this story today when at the store.

But a guy turned up to a tourney, who, lets just say, had a very... odd way of playing. He literally destroyed his units, such a crushing a unit of Wraiths and also to go so far as to hurl one out he door of the FLGS when he was caught misinterpreting a rule or something (I think. I told you this was second hand), as this was "How he was taught to play at his other store."

At my local GW, they call it ultimate warhammer and they'd actually bring hammers to smash dead units.

 Jancoran wrote:
Just had this happen.

Infiltrate confers to vehicles now (yup). However, the Warlord Trait is a specific rule that lets you infiltrate three NON vehicle units (and it doesnt give them the Infiltrate USR). Despite the incredibly clear restriction on the trait and none of them having the Infiltrate special rule, dude mosies up to me with all his arks, dudes inside, half his army. I read him the rule. No vehicles. He ignores me and plays on.

He was right. Master of Ambush gives "Your Warlord and three non-vehicle units of your choice have the Infiltrate special rule."

This gives the Necron Warriors Infiltrate. Since they have Infiltrate, so does their Dedicated Transport. The Warlord trait gave nothing to the vehicle.

 Jancoran wrote:

Then tries to tell me the game is over because I started the turn without anything on the board turn 4 (again, obviously wrong and half my army was scheduled to show up turn 4 automatically!)

He was potentially right. If you went first, you did lose since you had nothing on the board at the end of game turn 3. If you went second, then the game continues.

The "lose the game" check only happens at the end of game turns, not at the start of game turns or player turns.