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2015/07/08 17:22:05
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
I would be happy if CB moved to resin casting but the metal is ok. Except for the tiny arms that don't attach to anything else but the shoulder. I've glued Saladin back together about a million times.
"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
Didn't one of the principle sculptors say that something like 60% of the range wouldn't be possible in plastic? That would make resin far more plausible if they did ever change material.
CB have also gone on record as saying they want to keep production in Spain, partly a principled thing considering the difficulties the Spanish economy is going through.
Absolutionis wrote: Every biker in Infinity is impetuous. Even Penthesilea. The only variations seem to be whether they're irregular or not.
I guess it's in keeping with a bike that it's always moving. Rather than imagining the person on the bike inching along, moving it forward with their toes on the ground
Thought I would start playing Infinity and just stick to one army, wouldn't have as many armies as I have for other systems but now...CB just sucked me in deeper...
as for cost, I am okay with the cost. Contents are very good quality metal sculpts, comes with rules, dice, templates, markers, and 3-d scenery that actually looks decent as opposed to some other things I have seen in other boxed sets....I think its worth the cost. Even when I used to buy GW metal minis, years ago, it was 8-12 dollars for 1-2 models. This would be the price of GW metal 2004 and before. 10 models of that would be 80-120 dollars, and honestly looking at some of the old metal models these are better sculpts. Regardless of gw versus whatever, these are very nice models and the models + contents is very well priced, I would actually consider it a bargain.
A scenery set is ~12.50
Each starter pack is ~45-50
I would guess a devildog/antipode box would be ~25-30
Bike box- 40
Templates/markers-?
Rulebook-?
The minis alone would probably cost more than the box, so everything else is essentially free with the minis being 10% off for getting them bundled. Obviously a good deal, also all the models look ace.
2015/07/08 18:27:42
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
This is not the place to be bickering/complaining/whining/concerned about the price of CBs products. Also this is MOST DEFINITELY not (or anywhere on Dakka for that matter) the place to start insulting/name calling.
One can take the pricing concerns down to the proper Infinity Forums, the name calling would be best stopped.
Yes please!
I guess I wasn't clear enough?
TAKE THIS KIND OF STUFF DOWN TO THE INFINITY SUB-FORUMS - AND DO NOT KEEP BRINGING IT UP IN THE NEWS AND RUMORS THREAD.
Thanks!
2015/07/08 21:02:52
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Absolutionis wrote: That Desperado bike has a confederate-flag-looking pattern on it. This truly and utterly offends me and everyone in my hugbox. I demand that all Desperadoes be banned in all tournaments alongside USAriadna, Corvus Belli products, and Spain itself. Anyone that doesn't give in is a racist.
I was kinda glad to see our ragestorm over here hasn't reached all the way across the pond. It's in keeping with the Desperadoes' badass redneck 'Murica! persona... I'm certain that when we send our first hillbilly roughneck colonists to the stars they'll bring the stars 'n bars along with cheap beer, rusted pickups, and unkempt grizzly beards.
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Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2015/07/08 21:47:24
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
BobbaFett wrote: I must admit that GW plastic has super fine quality. But many other plastic/resin products that I've seen (Zombiecide, Warmachine, Mantic...) had been very dissapointing.
I do not want even to consider of CB switching to plastics, loosing their 10/10 quality. They have the best Metal product in the industry. Let the others ruin their stuff by tring to go plastic achieving 6/10 results. If someone is not going to get into Infinity because metal, that's fine.
I'm sure that if CB tries to go plastic they will have to go through a process that can damage the quality of their products. Rackham style.
Infinity is not made for becoming mainstream. This is "gourmet" stuff, really, not Pepsi.
Have you seen the Kingdom Death plastics? They could definitely capture the proportions and style of Infinity in plastic.
Heck, they even have cheesecake poses and cleavage. I'm not a fan of the 70's porn meets 80's horror movie designs of the minis but the quality and detail are unmistakeably there.
but the KD stuff does retail at $100 for 8 of those hard plastic minis so if you added the cost of paper terrain, mat and rules you'd be looking at something around $160+ is for a comparable starter box, and much, much longer lead times
2015/07/08 22:10:11
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Minis of the same quality as the metal ones are possible in plastic.
BUT:
There are so many undercuts that the forms would need to be made of at least 6-8 parts instead of the usual 2 and the models would need to be put together in many layers.
It is possible, but it would really cost a lot, at least 5 times the current price. So we better should forget about it.
This is not the place to be bickering/complaining/whining/concerned about the price of CBs products. Also this is MOST DEFINITELY not (or anywhere on Dakka for that matter) the place to start insulting/name calling.
One can take the pricing concerns down to the proper Infinity Forums, the name calling would be best stopped.
Yes please!
(and you do always seem to be me to it too! )
You have more forums to patrol, I am just interested in Infinity these days so I practically live in the 3 forums and this 1 thread dedicated to it
Expand your horizons Brother NM, start visiting the Painting and Modelling forums. Of course, we rarely see Mods down there, even unofficial ones. We're such rule-igans, the Mods get bored because they have nothing to moderate and end up spending all their time elsewhere in the super-exciting threads about Gold Plated Fantasy Space Marines.
Are there any still shots of the Desperadoes etc? Looks Like CB intends to have a near complete line of minis for USAriadna released by Christmas. Is the US market that important to them? (I'd guess D'uh yes.)
2015/07/09 00:27:27
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Carlos mentioned having release all through the end of the year, and into 2016.
So I would think they have a strong line of releases until Christmas, then a regular pattern into 2016 to maybe fill gaps in the line.
First up after the Army box is the Grunts SWC box Yes please!
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2015/07/09 01:04:40
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
After watching the video, I'm quite certain that Infinity monthly releases will be getting a portion of my money for the duration of the USAriadna launch.
I'm not a huge fan of the Desperado concept colors - a bit too much Ol' Western - but simply painting the poncho differently should alleviate that.
2015/07/09 01:22:28
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
I'm not a huge fan of the Desperado concept colors - a bit too much Ol' Western - but simply painting the poncho differently should alleviate that.
Ditto. It's a bit heavy handed, but most of it can be avoided on the painting table.
Liking this release more and more. Everything being in the same scale is a big motivator!
2015/07/09 03:58:20
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Liking this release more and more. Everything being in the same scale is a big motivator!
Hopefully the size fluctuations will finally be gone for good with the 3D sculpted minis.
So many units still need to be brought up to today's standards
Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2015/07/09 04:04:25
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Liking this release more and more. Everything being in the same scale is a big motivator!
Hopefully the size fluctuations will finally be gone for good with the 3D sculpted minis.
So many units still need to be brought up to today's standards
That's what I'm assuming. So I'm happily buying new Morats, PanO and Corrigador; but having a bit of a sulk about my Haqq, QK, and Bakunin.
2015/07/09 04:38:00
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Liking this release more and more. Everything being in the same scale is a big motivator!
Hopefully the size fluctuations will finally be gone for good with the 3D sculpted minis.
So many units still need to be brought up to today's standards
That's what I'm assuming. So I'm happily buying new Morats, PanO and Corrigador; but having a bit of a sulk about my Haqq, QK, and Bakunin.
Yeah my old Yu Jing are just sad to look at compared to the new Sun Tze and Invincible with HMG.
Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2015/07/09 06:42:52
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
I do like that motorbike concept, recognisable for what it is with just the right amount of 'sci-fi' (carried over from the other design) with the brake disks and thin spokes on the wheels, and what looks like design finally moving on from chains..
Going by the design, it looks like electric motors powered by an IC engine. A slightly different design from the others - they look like they could be 2-wheel drive - but still the same technology.
Looks like the electric drive could be a recent-ish import retrofitted to an older design, or that technology could have been with the original colonists, depending on how primitive you like your Ariadna.
2015/07/09 07:52:25
Subject: The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
I think I will be using my older scaled Haqqislam stuff to make stand-in's for these miniatures, and bite the bullet and buy newer style sculpts for Haqqislam so they all fit the same size. But I have to say I do like the concept art. I hope they do variations in poses for them though, I don't want them all looking too similar.
2015/07/09 08:03:10
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
Yep, I like that much more. Is it just me, or does it look like this Desperado is wearing almost the exact same gear as the cowboy Hardcase? I wonder if he'll be a resculpt of the Hardcase?
You're absolutely right and it does look that way. Hrmmm...
Any guesses as to how the Blackjack Heavy Rangers will turn out, or what they're going to go for the Unknown Ranger? I am thinking Rambo, but that's just me spitballing.
2015/07/09 11:46:15
Subject: Re:The NEW INFINITY News & Rumors Thread - USAriadna on Pg. 143!
It will also include Paradiso unit rules and so on, but not campaign stuff (which he said would be redone at another time as the missions and ideas are dated compared to N3). 2 Books same as N3 rules.
Everything from Tohaa, even newer stuff that is not in any book currently, will be in this. Will be a pdf of the rules as usual as well.
Also goes on to talk about the AF book, 16 new sectorials and even a new race.
Carlos will be doing a seminar at gencon discussing whats coming post human sphere.
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