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Truthfully, he's awesome.
Baggage is a huge deal as is it being a Repeater, and having 9 point models with both Baggage and a Repeater is great.

Ten-fifteen or so tournaments on I have yet to not bring at least one baggage-toting model in any list, and yet it's hardly ever made a difference. YMMV but it's more of a nice extra than a huge deal IMO (unless you play campaign, then it's a must for casevac alone)

I wasn't planning on buying or bringing and Ikadron, but I grabbed it anyway. guess I'll need to rework my planned 1st list again.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Yeah the picture I was looking at wasn't as well illuminated and from a different angle. But yeah, that magazine, and the magazine on the sniper rifle are much further forward than I'd like. It's just something which irritates me when I see it on what would otherwise be really great miniatures.

What are your thoughts on how Yojimbo holds his sword? We need a Kendo master to study about that.

Or the belt/camo pants arrangements on the werewolves?

Yes, I am being facetious

On a miniature that looks so stunning, I can't understand getting upset by something like that.*

*PS - I'm a Brit and know nothing about guns, other than they make a bang sound, so maybe that's it!
Although, compared to a lot of other miniature lines (other than ones done by Empress for their modern combat range for example), that looks pretty good to me..

For the gun enthusiasts amongst us, the magazine placement on those two weapons was changed to a puzzling area.

The magazine is usually placed as far back as possible in the receiver to enable as much action and barrel length as possible.

Moving the magazine up that far changed the center of gravity of the weapon, as well as putting the breechface far forward.

You mess up ergonomics, as well as bullet velocity.

It's basically added space and weight for nothing.
It may seem like a simple thing to someone not familiar with weapons and their design.

For some of us, it's a finger in the eye

Yeah, it's more about it being an eyesore to look at when your brain is kind of yelling at you "guns shouldn't be designed like that!". Especially the more low-tech faction of Ariadna (low tech being compared to all the other factions much higher tech in this instance).

I can't figure it out... The previous HMG sculpt had the magazine in the right spot. Have they done this to stop other people possibly using this design on their miniatures? That doesn't seem logical as this gun seems to take some of its design cues from the M240B, and thus can't really be pointed at and say "Hey, we came up with that, hands off!". It's boggling to me, and yeah every time I see it, it's like a finger in the eye.

As for Yojimbo, I think he's a homage in a way to the dude riding the motorcycle with the katana in "Black Rain", so he's fine

Well, at least on that HMG, if the ammo placement bothers you enough, it'll be easy to move it back. Unlike the Scout sniper, there's nothing to get in the way of moving it.

What's interesting is that with the design of the Penithesilea on motorbike (and sorry, I've gone on about this several times now!), as someone whose a big fan of motorcycles and new technology in the field, there is so much about that design that makes me think 'wow'.

Basically, you can tell it's been designed by someone who really knows about motorcycles and new R&D developments in that area.

They obviously haven't got someone on board who knows the same things about guns, with these miniatures.

One of you guys could put yourself forward as a consultant?

Just posting this up from The Warstore email:

The USAriadna Box PreOrders must be in by Midnight, Sunday August 2nd so we can place our order to get them in with with Dismounted Maverick Girl. We may not be able to fill orders placed after that in the first wave. All first wave PreOrder boxes will ship with the Dismounted Maverick Girl Miniature inside the box.

This box contains 9 miniatures belonging to an Ariadnan Sectorial Army, an introductory ruleset, scenery, dice & everything you need to start collecting Infinity or just to complete your collection!

Is that booklet going to be like the Ice Storm quickstart rulebook?

 Barzam wrote:
Is that booklet going to be like the Ice Storm quickstart rulebook?

From what we saw from "USAriadna Week", yes it will be.

And just as a reminder to folks, if you don't want to spring for the Big Box with the terrain or want multiples of the starter component, you can wait until probably November or December and purchase just the Ranger Force component by itself:


The Devil Dog will probably be a box of 4 for a fairly high price, with one of each profile(Heavy Shotgun and the Chain Rifle one which is in the Big Box), and the Maverick we're getting in this box is exclusive to this box

The impression I got from the videos is the Devil Dog box in the army box will be available seperately later as it is in that box. That's what I got from what Bostria said in the unboxing video.

 ImAGeek wrote:
The impression I got from the videos is the Devil Dog box in the army box will be available seperately later as it is in that box. That's what I got from what Bostria said in the unboxing video.

Right...but there's also a second Devil Dog profile, which features a Heavy Shotgun, Smoke Grenades, K-9 Antipode and AP CCW.
The box profile is Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades, K-9 Antipode and AP Heavy Pistol, AP CCW.
What I was saying is that when we see the Devil Dog get a general release, it will be part of a 4 model boxed set with the remaining profile. The Devil Dog is not exclusive to this set, per Bostria, but the Maverick sculpt is. The Dismounted Maverick is available only to the "preorders"--which suggests they plan on this box sticking around for awhile, but also making the Ranger Force box available to those who want duplicates of those models without the Devil Dog, Terrain, etc.

As well, the Big Box that we're seeing currently available is the "closest" to a normal army set you could get with the contents of the Ranger Force box. The Ranger Force box comes in at 91 points minimum without the Devil Dog and Maverick.
Normal army sets weigh in at around 130-150ish.

No, what I mean is, I got the impression that the DD box is going to come exactly as it is in that box. I can't remember the wording but that's the impression I got. Plus what if you get the starter box but then want the other Devil Dog too (if they do the other profile)? You'd have double of the one in the starter if they come in a 4 box.

 ImAGeek wrote:
No, what I mean is, I got the impression that the DD box is going to come exactly as it is in that box. I can't remember the wording but that's the impression I got.

The only statement I can recall was that "The Devil Dog would be available later as a box". That doesn't preclude them doing the Devil Dogs as a 2 DD/2 K9 box.
And given that they did the Dog Warriors as a "4 model box", I cannot see them not doing the same for the Devil Dogs.

It's worth mentioning as well that there was a comment made that they feel like anyone playing USAriadna will grab this box, the Grunt box, and then a few other boxes here and there. Given that Devil Dogs are AVA 3--making the Devil Dogs available as a 2 DD/2 K9 box is the smart choice.

Plus what if you get the starter box but then want the other Devil Dog too (if they do the other profile)? You'd have double of the one in the starter if they come in a 4 box.

You've been playing Infinity for awhile, right?

They don't care about you getting doubles. This box isn't "the starter", it's the army box.
"The starter" is a Minuteman with 2x Light Flamethrower, Marauder with Heavy Flamethrower(NOT Rifle+Heavy Flamethrower as they label it there, the profile isn't "Rifle+" meaning it's two separate weapons not a combination weapon), 3 Grunts with Rifles, and the Foxtrot Ranger.
The Devil Dog is something they added in, as is the Maverick.

When I said starter I meant the army box, I feel like that was fairly obvious. We'll see I guess but to me it sounded like the DD box is gonna be the DD and K9 that's in the army box. And it's a bit different for doubles of a little human sized model to having doubles of giant Dog Warriors.

 ImAGeek wrote:
When I said starter I meant the army box, I feel like that was fairly obvious.

It is to me, but to posters who are looking at this thread and haven't followed the details of everything it's important to delineate.

It's also worth mentioning that this is a new thing for Corvus Belli. Why they included the one Devil Dog profile over the other, I don't know.

We'll see I guess but to me it sounded like the DD box is gonna be the DD and K9 that's in the army box. And it's a bit different for doubles of a little human sized model to having doubles of giant Dog Warriors.

The Dog Warriors box comes with two Dog Warriors...
Sure, the Dogface(the human form) isn't as big as the Antipode but the Dogfaces aren't exactly small either.

In any regards, there isn't really many other options available to them for releasing the Devil Dogs. It's either a 4 model box with a duplicate of the one from the army box or they break their own rule about "We don't want to make a box/different arm options for each profile available in a single box but not giving you all of the profiles in the single box". It's the whole reason why Geckos were 2 to a box.

Fair enough to the first point. But the Dog Warriors aren't doubles of the same model, they're two different models. The way you're saying it's gonna be, if I want the other one in the box I'm going to have literally double of the DD and K9 that come in the army box. Like two of the exact same model, twice. It could be a two model box like the Motorbike boxes are.

I mean you could be right, but I'm not gonna be happy if they come as a box of four and I have to buy an expensive box that I already own half of to get the other one.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Fair enough to the first point. But the Dog Warriors aren't doubles of the same model, they're two different models. The way you're saying it's gonna be, if I want the other one in the box I'm going to have literally double of the DD and K9 that come in the army box. Like two of the exact same model, twice. It could be a two model box like the Motorbike boxes are.

I mean you could be right, but I'm not gonna be happy if they come as a box of four and I have to buy an expensive box that I already own half of to get the other one.

How is that any different to wanting doubles of any model that isn't a Rifle?

I mean yeah, it sucks and it'll annoy me too--but there's not really much else to be done.

Do I really need a 'dismounted' Maverick?

I don't think so...but am I missing something?

Probably not. You can dismount motorcyclists in the game so you could use it but lots of other Motorcyclists don't come with dismounted models. I've seen people say they're gonna use theirs as a Grunt FO.

Acmon, the left-handed arm wrestling champion:



Why is he holding a dinky little pistol?

Scattering some Skittles on his base would be pretty funny - though it would quickly become a very dated reference!

Anyway, I like the model!

Is the 'reveal all the secrets' seminar tomorrow afternoon then?

Yeah that model is actually pretty phenominal. I like him a lot. The seminar is tomorrow, I think it's 11-1 Indianapolis time.

Hmm. Looks like a Dactyl. I wonder if those are Breaker pistols? Did we ever learn what a Breaker pistol is?

He's a Dactyl character I think. Breaker pistols go against BTS instead of armour iirc, but they halve the BTS too. Fluff wise they're like toxic or nanotechnological or other things that attack BTS. And they definitely look like Breaker pistols to me

That's Acmon, a character Dactyl. Breaker Pistols are in the N3 rulebook and on the wiki: http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Pistol#Breaker_Pistol

 Alpharius wrote:
Scattering some Skittles on his base would be pretty funny - though it would quickly become a very dated reference!

Almost as dated as Reign of Fire, a move that barely anyone watched and got rather mediocre reviews.

At least LMS is a more obscure reference that may or may not get a movie in the near future.

Even if it's new.. I don't even know what LMS is now!

Bad-ass Aleph mini, I love some of the more techy/ghost-in-the-shell guys like that and the crouching Dactyl.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Spoiler:

And yeah the Tiger Soldier design is amazing. I think I prefer the BSG model (which I just ordered the other day) but the Spitfire profile is probably more useful.

CYCLOPS!



Now I want to buy it just for the laughs every time I see it.