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 Albatross wrote:

 stanman wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
We could actually probably give Disney some credit on that front. Yes most of the princess' are white, but there's at least 1 of each major ethnic group save Latino also present in the group.

You forget Dora the Explorer. Although she's technically an "Undocumented Princess" who happened to swim across a river and climb over a fence into the magic kingdom.

Congratulations on being a racist!

Nah, it's more of a tip of the hat to Raphie May.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/7g7jm5/stand-up-ralphie-may---dora-the-explorer-


On a serious note undocumented immigrant doesn't exclusively mean mexican, it means anyone who's here illegally, so anyone assuming "Undocumented = Mexican" they're the one being racist. There's plenty of undocumented South Americans, Chinese, Russians, Polish, Cubans here so it spans all sorts of races.

Albatross wrote:

Cmon bro, she's brown skinned and speaks Spanish, so she is obviously Mexican, and if she is Mexican, she obviously is an illegal immigrant. Super simple stuff really.

Exactly, Disney the "Magic Kingdom" is in Southern California, which only adds to the fun of poking at the stupidity of America stereotypes.

I want to see Disney Turettes Syndrome Princess.

And that would all be well and great about Dora....if she was a Disney Character....

 cincydooley wrote:
And that would all be well and great about Dora....if she was a Disney Character....

This thread was already borderline, and really, at this point, we need a lot less 'jokes' and...well, other stuff.

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread was already borderline, and really, at this point, we need a lot less 'jokes' and...well, other stuff.

Less jokes or good jokes?

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread was already borderline, and really, at this point, we need a lot less 'jokes' and...well, other stuff.

Less jokes or good jokes?

"The quantity of my jokes has a quality all its own."
-Bob Lenin

You have no idea how many jokes with "down" I gotta stop myself from posting right naow.

To be fair, there isn't much to be discussed on the matter and what is, has been. A woman loves her child, sees what her child likes and wants to further empower her child.

It's an understandable yet extremely short-sighted view, though, as it's solely based on emotions and therefore doesn't have a place in economics.

I'm fun at parties.

Never would risk it, get the portrayal even tiny bit wrong and they get some much backlash its mad. and no one could please everybody.

not worth the trouble it would cause.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread was already borderline, and really, at this point, we need a lot less 'jokes' and...well, other stuff.

Less jokes or good jokes?

"The quantity of my jokes has a quality all its own."
-Bob Lenin

If we didn't have bad jokes for contrast how would we know to appreciate the good ones?

For every good comedian there's dozens of bad ones telling groaners.

 Sigvatr wrote:


It's an understandable yet extremely short-sighted view, though, as it's solely based on emotions and therefore doesn't have a place in economics.

If you think emotion has no place in economics then you really don't understand economics.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't emotion that made a lot of people buy the re-release of the 1990's X-wing and Tie Fighter PC games. I know I purchased them for the graphics!

could always make it rampgirl with the power of building ramps

 cincydooley wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think they want mental disabilities. The kind that are difficult to overcome

Because physical disabilities are so easy to overcome, right?

I'm not so sure you think about what you post sometimes....
.

Ok, let me put it another way. Physical abilities limit only what you can do with your own body. Much that can be overcome by Technology or device. Dwarfs can still drive cars with special modifications. Amputees can still walk and be mobile with crutches, You can even play basketball in a wheelchair. And we are coming close to creating prostetics that can repair physical disabilitie
Now, Mental difficulties are very difficult to overcome in comparison, like down syndrome, that can never be cured. Or Autism(Although some Autism can get mitigated). They are built into genes and Im not sure you can remove them in a fashion, not for some time

lets get this straight, someone thinks that having a down syndrome princess sing songs in a Disney movie is a good idea?

I catch a bus with a down syndrome guy that does front of bus Karioke (japanese bloody singing ,however you spell it) and i can tell you it's hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Seeing everybody trying not to piss themselves laughing is hilarious - he must know this makes everyone laugh as he does his karioke complete with hand movements- i'm not sure if he realises how quite off key he is ,but he also tunes his radio station to the same one as on the bus so we can know exactly what he is supposed to be singing.

It's a great end to a day at work. I always come off that bus with a big smile for that guy, he's a born entertainer, but I'm not sure it's a good idea for a Disney movie

 d-usa wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't emotion that made a lot of people buy the re-release of the 1990's X-wing and Tie Fighter PC games. I know I purchased them for the graphics!

Can you go online in this game???

My contribution to the thread:
-Disney can pull if off.

 Bullockist wrote:


I catch a bus with a down syndrome guy that does front of bus Karioke (japanese bloody singing ,however you spell it) and i can tell you it's hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Seeing everybody trying not to piss themselves laughing is hilarious - he must know this makes everyone laugh as he does his karioke complete with hand movements- i'm not sure if he realises how quite off key he is ,but he also tunes his radio station to the same one as on the bus so we can know exactly what he is supposed to be singing.

To be fair, Karaoke is hard for everyone, Im sure the only reason it exists is a joke on drunk people.
And to face crippling fears f being infront of people.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Please,Oh please, make it a Princess with Tourette's Syndrome.
That'd make the musical numbers worth watching!

"Sooooomeday,when I can....BIG HAIRY BALLSACK.... fiiiind a waaaaay....STINKY POOPFACE!!!!!!"

This, I would pay money to see!

RE the OP...hmmm, no, not a good idea on Disney's part...

In the immortal words, "What could possibly go wrong?"

how the hell would a downes syndrome Disney princess work? autistic would be.... slightly, easier. maybe. but it's going to offend someone.

No one was offended by Nemo's smaller fin

 Padre wrote:
RE the OP...hmmm, no, not a good idea on Disney's part...

It's not an idea on Disneys part.

 Aesop the God Awful wrote:
No one was offended by Nemo's smaller fin

 Padre wrote:
RE the OP...hmmm, no, not a good idea on Disney's part...

It's not an idea on Disneys part.

nemo's fin was a physical disformity.
a princess in a wheel chair, sure that would work.

 the shrouded lord wrote:
how the hell would a downes syndrome Disney princess work? autistic would be.... slightly, easier. maybe. but it's going to offend someone.

I think their was strong evidence to suggest Ariel the mermaid was on the autistic spectrum.

And Downs Syndrome people arn't just flailing messes - here is a blog I read that gives some flavour of what is like for a young adult with downs syndrome - http://sarahely8989.blogspot.co.uk/

I think Disney could make this work - maybe they could make in non-explicit like the ice princess LGBT thing.

I think it's a great idea. I'm not sure how it should be handled however. Do you simply have a princess with additional support needs in a standard Disney plot and let the issue speak for itself? Or doc you have an acceptance story, where she is shunned or ignored but is the best at something and saves the day, proving she was right all along? Either way her love interest (I'm assuming there's one as it's a Disney film) should not have any learning difficulties or disabilities.

I think it's totally possible to do this, just as How to Train Your Dragon has a character who is handicapped - his disability is a pretty minor part of the story.

If I had a girl with 'special needs', I would not expose her to Disney princesses.

If I had a girl without 'special needs', I would not expose her to Disny princesses.

Our forebears fought a war to eliminate princesses from society...monarchy and aristocracy are disgusting ideas that belong in the garbage heap of history.

(And yes, I realize I am being a curmudgeon here )

 jasper76 wrote:
If I had a girl with 'special needs', I would not expose her to Disney princesses.

If I had a girl without 'special needs', I would not expose her to Disny princesses.

Our forebears fought a war to eliminate princesses from society...monarchy and aristocracy are disgusting ideas that belong in the garbage heap of history.

I will absolutely be exposing my daughter to Disney Princesses. We already watch Frozen and Rapunzel with her.

But then again, I'm also buying my daughter pink clothing. I know, I'm a terrible person for gender assigning my child.

Don't bypass the language filter like this please. Reds8n


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 Ouze wrote:
I think it's totally possible to do this, just as How to Train Your Dragon has a character who is handicapped - his disability is a pretty minor part of the story.

As has been rehashed about 14 times in the thread already, the specific ask of the petition is for a Disney Princess with Tri21/Down Syndrome.

It's an awful idea for a multitude of reasons, the least of which is that any "best at something that no one else is" is an unfair and unrealistic expectation/standard to set for someone with Tri21.

I was kinda sort joking about the Disney princesses.

However, part of me does indeed believe that Disney sugarcoats the pernicious nature of aristocracy for young children, and they have to unlearn what they learned as children when they grow up...which in most cases I assume is no big deal.

My main beef with Disney is actually the art. Disney movies do indeed inform a growing childs sense of what the (unrealistic) ideal body image of a male or female should be, and also teaches frequently that overweight or ugly people are inherently evil, which I think can lead to self esteem issues. That is the main reason I personally would not choose to show a young child Disney movies, at least where they depict humans. But I don't have kids, so my opinion isnt worth much here!

Yeah, this wouldn't ever turn into a farce of what they're trying to do here.

 jasper76 wrote:

My main beef with Disney is actually the art. Disney movies do indeed inform a growing childs sense of what the (unrealistic) ideal body image of a male or female should be, and also teaches frequently that overweight or ugly people are inherently evil, which I think can lead to self esteem issues. That is the main reason I personally would not choose to show a young child Disney movies, at least where they depict humans. But I don't have kids, so my opinion isnt worth much here!

I guess it's good news that Disney's job is to tell stories and not parent children then, eh?

You don't agree with something you kids sees in a movie? Be a fething parent and parent. Talk to them about it.

Sheltering them from stuff creates more problems than it solves.

 cincydooley wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:

My main beef with Disney is actually the art. Disney movies do indeed inform a growing childs sense of what the (unrealistic) ideal body image of a male or female should be, and also teaches frequently that overweight or ugly people are inherently evil, which I think can lead to self esteem issues. That is the main reason I personally would not choose to show a young child Disney movies, at least where they depict humans. But I don't have kids, so my opinion isnt worth much here!

I guess it's good news that Disney's job is to tell stories and not parent children then, eh?

So you don't think children absorb and take to heart images they see in movies???