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 whembly wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Lets just ignore the Nuns have effectively won that case already. Why let reality cloud a good headline for the internet tabloids?

That's not the point... they had to fight for it.

And? Government writes gakky laws with terrible wording we have to deal with waste of time court cases. They're not being persecuted, they're caught in a fringe section effected by a new law.

Oh god. I ventured into the comments section of that article. Someone pass me the eye bleach.

No bleach for you! All bleach is being rationed in case of an E-Bola breakout on one of the threads.

Note that Santorum's firebrand routine helped him rapidly ascend in the Senate (think he was considered the #3(?) man at one point) despite being a more junior Senator. The problem was that he got too conservative for PA, a "purple" state, and got booted out. In another more conservative state he might still be a Senator.

Also note that he took his 2012 Presidental campaign from basically nothing to finishing #2 behind Romney, and probably pushing Romney to campaign more conservatively that he might have otherwise done.

Santorum knows how to 1) fire up the conservative base of his party, and 2) get people of all stripes talking about him. These are valuable skills for a politician.

 streamdragon wrote:
Oh god. I ventured into the comments section of that article. Someone pass me the eye bleach.

Yep, the type of people Santorum caters to. People who think God's Not Dead was the best movie in the past decade.

I read the summary for that movie and said "this sounds as pretentious as that college professor who insisted there was no god and failing anyone who disagreed." That professor not existing in actuality.

 LordofHats wrote:
I read the summary for that movie and said "this sounds as pretentious as that college professor who insisted there was no god and failing anyone who disagreed." That professor not existing in actuality.

According to the person playing him he did.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
I read the summary for that movie and said "this sounds as pretentious as that college professor who insisted there was no god and failing anyone who disagreed." That professor not existing in actuality.

According to the person playing him he did.

No. The film is based on a popular urban legend among Evangelicals that originated as a bit by a comic artists named Jack Chick who also thinks Roman Catholics and Muslims are plotting to rule the world (but interestingly, not the Jews!). Evangelicals and the film constantly insist the story is true, even though it plainly isn't. Nothing in real life is as cliche as the chalk story.

Agreed, but they in joist he is based of fun professors he had

That movie synopsis made me a bit angry. It's such a common trope that atheists are "angry at God".

How can you be angry at something you don't even believe exists or ever existed?

I guess it's easier for people like those who put together this film that atheism is the result of some kind of trauma, rather tgan, you know, just thinking about a proposition.

Grrrrrrr....

Well, how many avowed atheists you know who aren't angry?

Every avowed atheist I've met has been a real head. I'm sure there are many, the majority even, who aren't, BUT IN MY ACTUAL EXPERIENCE ONLY they always have been.

There's no anger towards religious folk, unless they start something with me which is very rare.
Since I do not belong to a religion I don't want my life being impacted by any.
If your church says my bisexuality is a sin, good for it, but don't expect me to sit back and accept that/live by its teachings.

I just don't see any real proof of a God, in the way told to me, anywhere.
That's just me.

And God is Dead was a horrid movie, hated that pile of crap.

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
There's no anger towards religious folk, unless they start something with me which is very rare.
Since I do not belong to a religion I don't want my life being impacted by any.
If your church says my bisexuality is a sin, good for it, but don't expect me to sit back and accept that/live by its teachings.

I just don't see any real proof of a God, in the way told to me, anywhere.
That's just me.

And God is Dead was a horrid movie, hated that pile of crap.

My church says, like whatever man, tune in turn off and drop out...

We're Whiskapalians! Sweet Jebus liked to party and he brought the munchies AND the wine, 'cause thats how he rolled.

 Frazzled wrote:
Well, how many avowed atheists you know who aren't angry?

Every avowed atheist I've met has been a real head. I'm sure there are many, the majority even, who aren't, BUT IN MY ACTUAL EXPERIENCE ONLY they always have been.

All of my friends who are atheists are perfectly pleasant people.

 jasper76 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Well, how many avowed atheists you know who aren't angry?

Every avowed atheist I've met has been a real head. I'm sure there are many, the majority even, who aren't, BUT IN MY ACTUAL EXPERIENCE ONLY they always have been.

All of my friends who are atheists are perfectly pleasant people.

Thats just what they want you to think!

Are they pleasant around religious types too? As I said that was strictly my personal experience. Your mileage may vary.

Yes, they are.

By the way, you are an atheist regarding every deity except the one(s) you happen to believe in. Does that make you an angry person. Are you angry around or towards people who believe in a different God?

 jasper76 wrote:
Does that make you an angry person.

Have you met Frazzled?

 d-usa wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
Does that make you an angry person.

Have you met Frazzled?

Yea thats kind of like going up to Hulk and asking you mad bro?

Frazzled follows the philosophy of TBone the Magnificent, Herald of the Great Wienie:

I agree there is an awful lot of attempted Christian persecution of secular culture in the USA but thankfully the constitution protects people to some extent.

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

The problem is the erection of a Satanist statue on courthouse grounds is seen by the religious right as being one of the very "attacks" on Christianity that proves the persecution they face on a daily basis.

squidhills wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

The problem is the erection of a Satanist statue on courthouse grounds is seen by the religious right as being one of the very "attacks" on Christianity that proves the persecution they face on a daily basis.

I kind of sorta see their point on Satanists. I assume these actions weren't done by "Christian Satanists" (by that I mean people who worship the biblical Satan), but Church of Satan people, who are well known as a group of atheists who delight in the practice of mocking Christianity theatrically (why anyone would choose this as a hobby eludes me)

But hey....freedom of religion doesn't mean much if it only applies to a select group.

I think its funny as heck, but they should have had Goatboy sitting, holding an American flag in one hand.

"America, even the Devil thinks you're Badass. Hurr!"

squidhills wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

The problem is the erection of a Satanist statue on courthouse grounds is seen by the religious right as being one of the very "attacks" on Christianity that proves the persecution they face on a daily basis.

Actually... I think the religious right were more "mocking" it than it being "attacks".

Shoot... I saw a kickstarter by a (allegedly) religious organization to fund a "Flying spaghetti monster" statue.

Lemme see if I can find it... genuinely curious what happened to it.

squidhills wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

The problem is the erection of a Satanist statue on courthouse grounds is seen by the religious right as being one of the very "attacks" on Christianity that proves the persecution they face on a daily basis.

The problem is that the religious right are a bunch of **** ***** **** ***** who want a bunch of special rules to protect their special privileges and oppress everyone they don't like.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I agree there is an awful lot of attempted Christian persecution of secular culture in the USA but thankfully the constitution protects people to some extent.

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

You had me at 'erection'.

PhantomViper wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Yes.

Vote for this guy. He'll make the buses run on time.

Well, he failed spectacularly then...

My mother has just came home from a vacation in Italy last week, she said that its pretty normal there for trains and buses to run 30 or 40 minutes late on average.

A dictator that can't even make the trains run on time is a pretty crap dictator indeed.

Actually... when Mussolini took power, he DID make trains run on time for a goodly period of his power.

Apparently, the natural state for Italian public transport is not on time


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 Rainbow Dash wrote:
There's no anger towards religious folk, unless they start something with me which is very rare.
Since I do not belong to a religion I don't want my life being impacted by any.
If your church says my bisexuality is a sin, good for it, but don't expect me to sit back and accept that/live by its teachings.

I just don't see any real proof of a God, in the way told to me, anywhere.
That's just me.

And God is Dead was a horrid movie, hated that pile of crap.

Same here... and I agree that "God's Not Dead" was a terrible, terrible waste of my 2 hours or however long it was.

Somewhat entertaining... Today, I go to this lunch time event at my college. It's a "Veteran's Day Ice Cream Social". So I show up, and I'm wearing my "Victory or Valhalla" T-shirt:



And the Veteran Student Advisor comes up to me, asking if I'd like to say a prayer for the "ceremony" and I responded with, "sure, but who am I supposed to pray to?"

"Lord Yokoshima, thank you for not claiming my body today, for your hunger for the living will never be quelled and you will continue eating Lord Kaunis' work, and fighting Lord Lokasenna for to sway the balance in your favour.
Please do not take those who are here today, for they deserve life a little longer. We say these things, as beings of Kaunis, her creations, and pray to you all, amen"

That's my psudo neo-pagan prayer...none to blessing lol

Good thing no one played the race card yet

 Kilkrazy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

As witness the erection of satanist statues in courthouses across the Southern Baptist districts and so on.

The problem is the erection of a Satanist statue on courthouse grounds is seen by the religious right as being one of the very "attacks" on Christianity that proves the persecution they face on a daily basis.

The problem is that the religious right are a bunch of **** ***** **** ***** who want a bunch of special rules to protect their special privileges and oppress everyone they don't like.

Theocrats are just another form of statists to me and I therefore literally have no use for them. I am honestly curious what special privileges you believe Christians have because I can't think of any I've been taking advantage of and I don't want to keep missing out.

In regards to the article in the OP it never ceases to amaze me the way the "news" constantly just throws up pointless stories featuring commentary from worthless people. Santorum's last notable accomplishment was winning a statewide election in PA fourteen years ago. He literally speaks for no one but himself and is just another citizen. There really isn't any reason to pay any attention to anything he has to say. The article is just another instance of a network trying to make a story out of something meaningless. The fact that somebody in America said something outlandish isn't news, doesn't impact anyone's life and I'm disappointed in myself for spending any time on this at all.

Some people need to see the world as "Us vs. Them" no matter the situation. Some politicians play on that lunacy for votes, others actually are those kinds of idiots. Santorum is the latter.