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 Azreal13 wrote:
Or you could trade on the fact that Trebuchets are a thing, Historicals are a thing, and get a 28mm scale trebuchet for £9?




I did forget about that. Does the place this is from ship the US and is reliable?

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 AlexHolker wrote:
 Alex C wrote:
"Blaine: The omnidimensional Chuck Norris"

A loser propped up by a meme-spouting mob?


Am I the only one who remembers when they were Vin Diesel jokes before the Chuck Norris fad?

Also, I am up for any and all printed fiction from Mantic. Unless they go full Black Library with the prices.

   
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^Hopefully not! I would be interested in the 40k books (there are fantasy books too probably?) if they were more reasonable. Actually I haven't even looked at prices lately, it's more of a trained assumption.

Nah, if I had a transdimensional whatsit I'd probably be able to get a game in occasionally =/

That trebuchet... the price is right.

 
   
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 Tanakosyke22 wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
Or you could trade on the fact that Trebuchets are a thing, Historicals are a thing, and get a 28mm scale trebuchet for £9?
Spoiler:




I did forget about that. Does the place this is from ship the US and is reliable?


Ah, my bad, even though I set it for 28mm, the pic is for a 15mm one, and there's no larger alternate.

Someone must do one though, and it has to be the way to go?

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New to kickstarters.....

If i already pledged 150$ can i then add on a mega army or whatever else afterwards, or did it have to be right away?
   
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SonofTerra wrote:
New to kickstarters.....

If i already pledged 150$ can i then add on a mega army or whatever else afterwards, or did it have to be right away?


No, you're fine.

As a pledger, you'll get access to the pledge manager once the project closes, where you'll be able to specify your choices of faction etc.

You'll also be able to add on additional items (at KS prices) at this point too. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that it will remain open until after Christmas, so you've got plenty of time to make your mind up/raise extra cash or whatever.

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 Eilif wrote:

Also, the word from Mantic (via their blog) is that ranged units (archer, crossbow, etc) are going to be better in the new edition. this is very good news for me. I've been running a couple of archer units in my KoM/AbbysalDwarves force and they are not great units right now.


Yeah. I've got ranged units in several of my armies simply because I have the models and am going for "thematic" over "effective" and they are indeed a bit crap.


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ced1106 wrote:
fwiw, I got a confirmation that they will have a $1 add-on level, but not if Blaine will be included if you make a $1 add-on pledge and take a $50 add-on:


You'd hope so. Especially since Ronnie seemed to make a big deal about being Christmas-friendly to backers who have other priorities right now.


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 Daedleh wrote:

A special rule which lets a unit ignore the moving and shooting penalty seems in order. Obviously not given to everyone, but mounted archers certainly.
Also, Kingdoms of Men Scouts are worse than Heralds of Woe


Makes sense. Horse archers and their ilk should really be able to do what they're supposed to.

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New Bedford, MA USA

I own the KoW 1st edition, but never actually got around to playing a game of KOW. Looking at the Abyss army deals, the Mega starter is basically twice the regualr starter, trading out 10 gargoyles for a Champion. Are champions that good, and or expensive, or should I just get a double basic starter and convert a champion ?

Spoiler:

Forces of the Abyss Starter Army ($50)
40 Lower Abyssals/Lower Abyssal Magi
20 Succubi
10 Gargoyles

Forces of the Abyss Mega-Starter army ($100)
80 Lower Abyssals/Lower Abyssal Magi
40 Succubi
10 Gargoyles
1 Abyssal Champion with alternate components

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I'm a bit surprised how slow this KS has been going the last couple of days.
I'm already in for the mega army and cannot really add anything. :(
   
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RoninXiC wrote:
I'm a bit surprised how slow this KS has been going the last couple of days.




600% Funding, and a complete army added in plastic, in 3 days....

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I wonder if Basilean-gate is affecting the progress on this one?

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That pretty much all happened on day 1, though. Yesterday was very slow and today is slower.

Which makes sense, I suppose. The standard pledge for established players is only $50. Presumably many already have their armies, so they have no reason to pledge more unless they want to add Abyssals. The KS needs to draw in new players to get the $150 pledges in.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I wonder if Basilean-gate is affecting the progress on this one?


Christmas more than anything else, and they didn't spend two months prior building up publicity.

   
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I'll be honest, I completely forgot about that lol. Still, $156K isn't doing too badly really. Mantic did actually say they didn't need this to go to the same levels as Deadzone or Dungeon Saga.

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While Mantic have obviously planned further in advance, the main point honestly was to get the 2nd edition book. Anything on top (though they were quite confident they could get some Abyssals stuff done) is a bonus. I think the plan was/is to do the mini-kickstarter now and get the book done to the best possible quality before running a larger KS at some point in the future to flesh out the rest of the miniatures range.
   
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 adamsouza wrote:
RoninXiC wrote:
I'm a bit surprised how slow this KS has been going the last couple of days.




600% Funding, and a complete army added in plastic, in 3 days....



And yesterday and the day before were SUPER slow. Of that 600% funding, 95% has been achieved on day 1 and 2.
   
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Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.

I want to be able to use my mounted Samurai as KOW scouts so i hope they get sorted.


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I wonder if Basilean-gate is affecting the progress on this one?


Possibly. I don't have the money for it atm anyway so its a moot point but I have no problem paying for mantic rules sight unseen as their rules track record is solid. It would have to be amazing concepts, amazing prices considerably lower than expected retail and an army and/or game system I was really really into for me to consider buying mantic models sight unseen again. That and the fact mantic has been criticised in the past for a lack of transparity when it comes to showing models before they are finished and a seemingly declining quality of customer service (Thats not fair actually, their customer service is often good once you can get hold of them. Problem is you can be waiting weeks or months before that happens) is likely going to make people more reluctant than they were before.

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"Slow" being a relative term here, of course, but I think that this:




is what people are referring to when they say it?

The Mantic Super Fans (and people OK with truckloads of restic) blast this one out of the gate, and then it is Lull City until the end?

Mantic's Dreadball and Deadzone where 'more successful' - but that was before many got a real good first hand experience with restic.

$750K plus campaigns might not be happening for them again until HIPs become a staple.

Having said all that, they still certainly do well with their KS efforts.

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I'm still looking at DS which got $10K, reliably, every day.
   
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If you are not after an Abyss Army, there hasn't been much incentive.

   
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Richmond, VA

 Azreal13 wrote:
 Tanakosyke22 wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
Or you could trade on the fact that Trebuchets are a thing, Historicals are a thing, and get a 28mm scale trebuchet for £9?
Spoiler:




I did forget about that. Does the place this is from ship the US and is reliable?


Ah, my bad, even though I set it for 28mm, the pic is for a 15mm one, and there's no larger alternate.

Someone must do one though, and it has to be the way to go?


http://oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=224&catname=%27Medieval%20Seige%20Equipment%27

Trebuchet is $39.
If you join the Old Glory Army for $50/year, you get 40% off all orders for a year.
This is what it looks like

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You know... the project I've been pitching wasn't expressly Blaine-centric, but the people of Dakka seem to have spoken, so I guess I am changing course. :-p

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Some small city in nowhere, Illinois,United States

 judgedoug wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Tanakosyke22 wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
Or you could trade on the fact that Trebuchets are a thing, Historicals are a thing, and get a 28mm scale trebuchet for £9?
Spoiler:




I did forget about that. Does the place this is from ship the US and is reliable?


Ah, my bad, even though I set it for 28mm, the pic is for a 15mm one, and there's no larger alternate.

Someone must do one though, and it has to be the way to go?


http://oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=224&catname=%27Medieval%20Seige%20Equipment%27

Trebuchet is $39.
If you join the Old Glory Army for $50/year, you get 40% off all orders for a year.
This is what it looks like


Thats is much cheaper than the GW one, let along not made in its crappy fine cast. My only question is that is Old Glory Army a reliable place to by from?

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 adamsouza wrote:
If you are not after an Abyss Army, there hasn't been much incentive.


Or the book. I'm guessing many pledges would just be $50, although I'm hearing A LOT of traffic about mega armies in multiple.
   
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The average pledge is $110 so it's a fairly even split so far.

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 Tanakosyke22 wrote:


Thats is much cheaper than the GW one, let along not made in its crappy fine cast. My only question is that is Old Glory Army a reliable place to by from?


Old Glory is one of the oldest and most reliable historicals miniatures company (they also have fantasy and sci fi, too). They also attend nearly every convention and have a huge presence at Historicon. I've purchased countless items from them in the past and have always gotten impeccable service. Plus the prices, with the Old Glory Army discount, are unbeatable.

For example: http://oldglory25s.com/view_product.php?product=PIL-06
a pack of 30 Italian Wars handgunners (aka Warhammer Empire handgunners), for $36. with Old Glory Army discount, $21.60.


Note that I believe the Siege Weapons do not have crew as they are period-army-agnostic; you'll have to supply your own or get a pack of crew from the closest historical period to your army.
Such as this pack of Hundred Years War crewmen - http://oldglory25s.com/view_product.php?product=HAW-12

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Apparently the next stretch goals are going to be for older armies, so that should....spread the love?
   
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The Rock

I'm surprised they haven't thrown up a retailers only pledge for this yet..

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How to take decent photos of your models
There's a beast in every man, and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand
Most importantly, Win or Lose, always try to have fun.
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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm surprised they haven't thrown up a retailers only pledge for this yet..


Next week, or sooner, is what I'm hearing.
   
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Some small city in nowhere, Illinois,United States

 judgedoug wrote:
 Tanakosyke22 wrote:


Thats is much cheaper than the GW one, let along not made in its crappy fine cast. My only question is that is Old Glory Army a reliable place to by from?


Old Glory is one of the oldest and most reliable historicals miniatures company (they also have fantasy and sci fi, too). They also attend nearly every convention and have a huge presence at Historicon. I've purchased countless items from them in the past and have always gotten impeccable service. Plus the prices, with the Old Glory Army discount, are unbeatable.

For example: http://oldglory25s.com/view_product.php?product=PIL-06
a pack of 30 Italian Wars handgunners (aka Warhammer Empire handgunners), for $36. with Old Glory Army discount, $21.60.


Note that I believe the Siege Weapons do not have crew as they are period-army-agnostic; you'll have to supply your own or get a pack of crew from the closest historical period to your army.
Such as this pack of Hundred Years War crewmen - http://oldglory25s.com/view_product.php?product=HAW-12


I was planning to get some Fireforge Foot Sargents, so I can use some left overs from the box as the crew. Might have to check them out a bit more. If I manage to get some more miniatures from them, I might consider the discount possibly.

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