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2014/11/09 23:29:34
Subject: Re:Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
They asked the question on the old style vehicles in the supporters group and after checking the post maybe 50/50 approval. I thought they looked too fisher price myself which I am boring myself saying. (Gawd am I turning into Artemis) They did respond saying the vehicles are up in the air at the moment and have not decided on them yet. Actually that's a good question to direct to them about it. Good piece of discussion if I can remember came out about vehicles or dropships etc as being objective points makes for some good eye candy on a map.
Although I like the Idea of power suited heavy infantry its done to death but makes for good eye candy. Much like bikini chainmail figures which I'm not a fan off.
@Malkaven
Going to be run in Dollars.
@Barzam
They are going to be 1/48 minis (35mm) for the humans other factions could get bigger.
Jeez feel like the FF news feed.
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The most petty and ill informed miniature collector in the world.
2014/11/09 23:43:35
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
For those wondering about the vehicle, here it is from the last KS. I'm putting it in spoiler tags so that people who are skimming the thread won't think it's from this new KS.
Spoiler:
NOT FROM THIS KICKSTARTER
NOT FROM THIS KICKSTARTER
My thinking is that vehicles aren't quite the first thing to go for in 1/48. I think larger power armour, robots, jet packs and maybe motorcycles are what to make before you make any cars or tanks.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2014/11/10 00:05:30
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
My thinking is that vehicles aren't quite the first thing to go for in 1/48. I think larger power armour, robots, jet packs and maybe motorcycles are what to make before you make any cars or tanks.
The artwork/renders to date would seem to back this up!
2014/11/10 00:11:22
Subject: Re:Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
It has already been suggested about speeder bikes and such whether they do anything with it is another thing. Airfix do 2x 1/48 quads for less than a tenner that could be easily converted. In fact airfix's afghanistan support vehicles in 1/48 are the business well worth a look.
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The most petty and ill informed miniature collector in the world.
2014/11/10 00:14:24
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Gallahad wrote: Those look so good. I love love love that unarmored guy. Great poses sculpting and design. Why why why are they running this so close to Christmas?
1 dollar place holders
Get Christmas money
pimp put the pledge manager
then play the waiting game?
2014/11/10 11:12:32
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Gallahad wrote: Those look so good. I love love love that unarmored guy. Great poses sculpting and design. Why why why are they running this so close to Christmas?
1 dollar place holders
Get Christmas money
pimp put the pledge manager
then play the waiting game?
That's all well and good, but if everyone does that (and increasingly on these things, why wouldn't you?) the thing won't actually fund! Or will just scrape over funding, meaning no nice stretch goals. Hence why time of year is possibly going to be a factor for the success of the project. I agree that there may be other factors forcing the issue of when to launch though, and at least they won't be running up against a CMON or Sci-Fi Mantic one.
2014/11/10 11:40:35
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
That's all well and good, but if everyone does that (and increasingly on these things, why wouldn't you?) the thing won't actually fund! Or will just scrape over funding, meaning no nice stretch goals
Somehow I doubt that the majority of backers have the discipline to pledge only a $1 and increase after the campaign ends. "If everybody does that" just isn't going to be a reality for most projects. People love to get excited about things and wrapped up in a campaign. The reason KS works at all is that people want to belong more than they want to make the smartest move in a given situation. And even then, as you pointed out, stretch goals can be an incentive for pledging.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2014/11/10 16:17:09
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Bioptic wrote: That's all well and good, but if everyone does that (and increasingly on these things, why wouldn't you?) the thing won't actually fund! Or will just scrape over funding, meaning no nice stretch goals. Hence why time of year is possibly going to be a factor for the success of the project. I agree that there may be other factors forcing the issue of when to launch though, and at least they won't be running up against a CMON or Sci-Fi Mantic one.
Not everyone celebrates the holidays or christmas in the same way. There is a large population, even in the US, in the world that don't celebrate the holidays by buying others presents. So it won't be an issue for everyone. Then you have some people who get their other halves to buy them KS presents too. In my case I have 2 children and will be spending quite a bit on presents but fortunately I already have the majority of them bought. I tend to do shopping early, except for a couple items which I expect a better sales price.
2014/11/10 17:57:50
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
I agree that there may be other factors forcing the issue of when to launch though, and at least they won't be running up against a CMON or Sci-Fi Mantic one.
You never know. Both Mantic and CMoN have popped unexpected KS projects on us recently, with SMOG and the Mantic "mini" project.
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Dark Severance wrote: In my case I have 2 children and will be spending quite a bit on presents but fortunately I already have the majority of them bought. I tend to do shopping early, except for a couple items which I expect a better sales price.
I do the same.
I'll have my shopping done LONG before Dec 15th, or whenever this ends, rolls around.
Hell, I've already got about 75% of my shopping done.
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2014/11/10 18:51:59
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Speaking of presents... I wonder if Dakka has ever done some sort of secret santa gift exchange thing. That seems like it would be an interesting thing to participate in. Of course it would probably end up being everyone dumping what crappy miniature they don't want but still seems like a good community building experience. I'll stop thinking out loud now.
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2014/11/10 19:17:49
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Speaking of presents... I wonder if Dakka has ever done some sort of secret santa gift exchange thing. That seems like it would be an interesting thing to participate in. Of course it would probably end up being everyone dumping what crappy miniature they don't want but still seems like a good community building experience. I'll stop thinking out loud now.
You might want to have a closer look over there in the DCM forum...
On topic here - is it Friday yet?!?!?
2014/11/10 19:19:12
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Alpharius wrote: You might want to have a closer look over there in the DCM forum...
On topic here - is it Friday yet?!?!?
Nice! That sounds like a fun thing. I haven't really spent much time over, guess I should pop over more often. I do see one for 2013, doesn't look like anyone has started one for 2014 though, unless I missed it.
2014/11/10 20:31:48
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
FF's Facebook Page wrote:Part 3/3 – Rules
During our past campaign we had posted up our work in progress rules already, however they were not translated properly which caused a lot of confusion. Over the past months we have been working hard on tweaking the rules and getting them properly translated, and we have been playtesting with people from all over the world to ensure a well balanced, fun and competitively sound game.
In a nutshell the game focuses on small forces fighting over precious resources whilst being lead by heroes that influence how units behave. The game is played with 10-20 miniatures per side at its base, but can easily be expanded to have larger games with 40-50 miniatures per side.
At its core there are three pillars: heroes & units, resource collection and a deck of cards. Heroes are powerful characters that boost the performance of the units they are leading, and that bring powerful weaponry or army-wide special rules.
Resources are collected actively by capturing areas of the table to harvest Krithium, and passively by backing your army with a good leadership to receive Command points. These resources can then be spent to do various things, from boosting your dice rolls to playing powerful cards that can change the outcome of battle.
The game is still in development and some details may change, but these core elements will always remain. We will make sure to provide you with an early look at the rules as soon as possible!
(The image shows two small forces ready for playtesting; note that the gaming mat and all terrain except for the trees will be available in our kickstarter.)
What is everyone's thoughts about collecting Krithium and then using it to boost things during the game?
I find it a bit too RTS for my liking. If Krithium is *the stuff* for military conflicts, then send in your troops with a supply. I do like adding a resource management and capturing aspect to the game though.
Primarily I'm interested in the miniatures though.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2014/11/11 17:53:37
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
I thought the back story wasn't that bad, its not Asimov but what do you expect, the animation from the last campaign was rather professional looking with a rather easy on the ear voice over.
They are doing a pretty good job this time in keeping the momentum going for the fans, like in the support group, to bring other folk in.
I'm just waiting to see if we get these guys, the riffs are doing it for me.
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The most petty and ill informed miniature collector in the world.
2014/11/13 13:09:38
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
What is everyone's thoughts about collecting Krithium and then using it to boost things during the game?
I find it a bit too RTS for my liking. If Krithium is *the stuff* for military conflicts, then send in your troops with a supply. I do like adding a resource management and capturing aspect to the game though.
Primarily I'm interested in the miniatures though.
Seems an odd mechanic for a skirmish game rather than an army game. 10 miniatures each, in a game based on squads, so that seems to be 2 squads, and you have to go and collect resources.
I don't see any actual rules either, just a collection of basic game ideas, resource collecting, herohammer/warmahordes based heroes 'and' cards too. I expected more considering 4 months have passed since the first time around.
2014/11/13 14:44:10
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Alpharius wrote: Well, to be fair, we might actually see a lot more when this launches tomorrow!
This so much this. So many stupid arguments going on at the moment about whether they have done or not done. Let's wait for facts rather than continue with baseless speculation.
Alpharius wrote: Well, to be fair, we might actually see a lot more when this launches tomorrow!
This so much this. So many stupid arguments going on at the moment about whether they have done or not done. Let's wait for facts rather than continue with baseless speculation.
It's not really baseless though is it, aren't FF asking us to speculate and be excited etc. by virtue of actually releasing what they have? We're not just pulling things out of thin air here, we're commenting on official releases.
Also, I don't see any arguments
2014/11/13 17:23:27
Subject: Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
Alpharius wrote: Well, to be fair, we might actually see a lot more when this launches tomorrow!
This so much this. So many stupid arguments going on at the moment about whether they have done or not done. Let's wait for facts rather than continue with baseless speculation.
It's not really baseless though is it, aren't FF asking us to speculate and be excited etc. by virtue of actually releasing what they have? We're not just pulling things out of thin air here, we're commenting on official releases.
Also, I don't see any arguments
Well it is baseless speculation when people start complaining that SG are lying until they release information saying one way or another. I have seen you doing this several times but I don't want to go down that route.
Pilgrim_uk wrote: If we didnt have artemis who else would folk pick on. Takes the pressure off the rest of our "negative" comments.
If there is one race thats not doing it for me its the Harversters. Although one of the back stories from a commander unit (I think) appealed to me.
Definately though Riff first then Sayx.. Hopefully a pledge for figures only would be good.
True although I still think you should state on this thread as soon as possible that is a manager of another miniature company which are planning to launch a KS very soon. But anyway back to the game.
I felt with the KS that all the race had one models that really interested me and the rest was just ok or good but certainly not as impressive. But at the end of the game we all are different and have different tastes so I think the answer is allowing us to pick the models we like
so I think the answer is allowing us to pick the models we like
This is the reason I would like to see a collectors pledge. (Soon enough we will find out). As you said I would like to pick my mini's even paying above the odds over box set gamers.
Although there is the other side it would be a bit of an administration hell doing a collectors pledge. So I can understand keeping it simple.
The most petty and ill informed miniature collector in the world.
2014/11/14 10:49:29
Subject: Re:Fallen Frontiers - Kickstarter Relaunch on 11/14/14!
so I think the answer is allowing us to pick the models we like
This is the reason I would like to see a collectors pledge. (Soon enough we will find out). As you said I would like to pick my mini's even paying above the odds over box set gamers.
Although there is the other side it would be a bit of an administration hell doing a collectors pledge. So I can understand keeping it simple.
Yes I can understand that. I guess it will depend as well whether they plan to release the squads as individual boxes later on. I am keeping my fingers crossed though for one as I doubt I will be able to afford the full pledge this time.
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