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I think he's from that other, slightly smaller island. The ones with the hobbits.
- hah, can't take it back now, I was too quick!
God damnit
In my defence I'm using a kindle tablet. The flags are the size of a pin head on my screen.
Which one? I got the 8.9" not too long ago and I love it. Which - to be on topic - I spend inordinate amounts of time explaining the easy to grasp and readily available technical specifications of to my female acquaintances. Or something.
I think he's from that other, slightly smaller island. The ones with the hobbits.
- hah, can't take it back now, I was too quick!
God damnit
In my defence I'm using a kindle tablet. The flags are the size of a pin head on my screen.
Which one? I got the 8.9" not too long ago and I love it. Which - to be on topic - I spend inordinate amounts of time explaining the easy to grasp and readily available technical specifications of to my female acquaintances. Or something.
Kindle fire (not the large hd version). It's going on 3 years old now.
Much better than an iPad I think.
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What about the new Zealand Maori culture? Doesn't t have some good traditional cuisine?
But that would be cultural appropriation stealing their food and their land. It's not like we mutually agreed to the whole colonisation arrangement by treaty in 1840 or anything.
lord_blackfang wrote: Mansplaining is when you try to use facts, reason and logic to prove your point and this is somehow seen as condescending because some people value their personal feelings above truth.
What if the person doing "mansplaining" thinks he is super logical, reasonable and factual but it turns out his point(s) is/are full of faults, also just because feelings are involved doesn't mean that logic is completely absent.
The term didn't arise from men repeatedly being wrong, it arose from men repeatedly trying to make a reasoned argument to someone who has decided in advance not to listen.
Just saying, you're making a rather good illustration of the phenomenon discussed.
I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
EmilCrane wrote: If I can't eat other cultures food then I'm stuck with pies and fish and chips for the rest of my life, unless you count England as a seperate culture (which sjws wouldn't because they think all white people are the same) in which case I'm stuck eating... nothing.
If you are 1/8 Maori (everyone seems to be 1/8 something) you can eat hungies, extinct birds and skinny white guys in red coats who are good at losing wars in far flung places.
Also you get to wield a long stick like a kick arse ninja on elephant steroids.
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Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
EmilCrane wrote: If I can't eat other cultures food then I'm stuck with pies and fish and chips for the rest of my life, unless you count England as a seperate culture (which sjws wouldn't because they think all white people are the same) in which case I'm stuck eating... nothing.
If you are 1/8 Maori (everyone seems to be 1/8 something) you can eat hungies, extinct birds and skinny white guys in red coats who are good at losing wars in far flung places.
Also you get to wield a long stick like a kick arse ninja on elephant steroids.
My ancestry is about as white as they come. I'm half American and half kiwi, both sides originating in England, so I cant even claim to be Irish and oppressed by the English. I think I'm 1/8th French.
I am the ultimate gaklord
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Out of all the international customs I know of, the one that blows my mind the most is the willing ingestion of Vegemite.
Vegemite is great. Have you tried it? It's like someone took leftover beer yeast and made a food out of it! (because they did!)
Time to break the OzCode again though:
Spoiler:
It's an Australian practical joke to give non-Australians a spoonful by itself. Don't eat it straight unless you have a hangover - it's meant to be spread over butter.
Sorry for the Ozsplaining everyone
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Hey, I live here and I can't see the appeal either.
Spoiler:
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Out of all the international customs I know of, the one that blows my mind the most is the willing ingestion of Vegemite.
Vegemite is great. Have you tried it? It's like someone took leftover beer yeast and made a food out of it! (because they did!)
Time to break the OzCode again though:
Spoiler:
It's an Australian practical joke to give non-Australians a spoonful by itself. Don't eat it straight unless you have a hangover - it's meant to be spread over butter.
Sorry for the Ozsplaining everyone
Ah.
Well, that explains a lot.
What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
H.B.M.C. wrote: On the subject of "Cultural Appropriation", you have to remember that there's a fanatical sub-set of those - I'll call it Tumblr Cultural Appropriation - that say that using anything from another culture is a form of cultural appropriate and is always 100% without exceptions bad. And when I say "using", I mean:
Eating food from another culture (going out for Italian, ordering in Chinese food when you are neither Italian nor Chinese)
Speaking the language of another culture (learning Spanish, casually inserting German phrases into English despite not being Spanish/Latino or German/Swiss)
Using the dress of another culture (the aforementioned Katy Perry + Kimono nonsense... or it might've been Geisha, but whatever - that was bad simply because she did it, even if she did it with 100% respect for its origins and significance).
Like most of these "warrior" types, they're not worth worrying about because they are a pitiable bunch of attention craving professional offence takers all competing in the Oppression Olympics. Nevertheless, it's always good to be specific if you're talking about real cultural appropriation, or made up Tumblr-level appropriation.[…]
So, in the same way that Tumblr Cultural Appropriation centres around how doing anything related to a culture that is not yours is somehow bad (to the point where getting sushi when not Japanese is racist/evil), "abelism" is the policing of words that might (and I use "might" in the loosest possible sense) offend people with disabilities.
Is this cultural appropriation thing a slight (is that abelist?) bit racialist? I mean jusging whether someone can do something based solely on their culture they were born into/raised in? I don't get it but i can tell you one thing. No bastard is stopping me eating kim chi ,
This world is getting slowed.......
*stomps over to where frazzled is standing next to a grill holding a sign saying "Get off my lawn", takes a sign off the pile on the ground and holds it up. It reads "Men", stop saying good morning to my teenage daughter"*
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: I quite like Indian curries, doner kebabs and French oysters. Guess that makes me racist.
What about the new Zealand Maori culture? Doesn't t have some good traditional cuisine?
But that would be cultural appropriation stealing their food and their land. It's not like we mutually agreed to the whole colonisation arrangement by treaty in 1840 or anything.
EmilCrane wrote: If I can't eat other cultures food then I'm stuck with pies and fish and chips for the rest of my life, unless you count England as a seperate culture (which sjws wouldn't because they think all white people are the same) in which case I'm stuck eating... nothing.
If you are 1/8 Maori (everyone seems to be 1/8 something) you can eat hungies, extinct birds and skinny white guys in red coats who are good at losing wars in far flung places.
Also you get to wield a long stick like a kick arse ninja on elephant steroids.
So, they might not be worth worrying about, but we still tons of message putting down this nice strawman, and none discussing about “real cultural appropriation”. I guess it is easier to make fun of ridiculous stuff than to talk about serious matters…
lord_blackfang wrote: Mansplaining is when you try to use facts, reason and logic to prove your point and this is somehow seen as condescending because some people value their personal feelings above truth.
Case and point:
Not sure she was in her normal state when she wrote that. Given the kind of “discussions” she has gone through recently, it is understandable. I am pretty sure if she looks at this later with a cooler head, she will feel stupid.
Sining wrote: All this cultural appropriation talk makes me think of this
A Japanese calling others history-less Imperialist. The irony is strong with this one.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
lord_blackfang wrote: Mansplaining is when you try to use facts, reason and logic to prove your point and this is somehow seen as condescending because some people value their personal feelings above truth.
What if the person doing "mansplaining" thinks he is super logical, reasonable and factual but it turns out his point(s) is/are full of faults, also just because feelings are involved doesn't mean that logic is completely absent.
The term didn't arise from men repeatedly being wrong, it arose from men repeatedly trying to make a reasoned argument to someone who has decided in advance not to listen.
Just saying, you're making a rather good illustration of the phenomenon discussed.
I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
Don't credit yourself too much.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yeah, abelism was a new one for me up until August. Basically it amounts to people taking the concept of "discrimination against those with disabilities" and - thick with irony - going full slow with the definition.
So, in the same way that Tumblr Cultural Appropriation centres around how doing anything related to a culture that is not yours is somehow bad (to the point where getting sushi when not Japanese is racist/evil), "abelism" is the policing of words that might (and I use "might" in the loosest possible sense) offend people with disabilities.
So this goes beyond the work Dakka censored above. This extends to things like "stupid" or "blind", or really any innocuous thing. So if someone misses something and you say "What are you, blind?", that's abelism. Now you're not actually discriminating against someone who is blind, and there might not even be a blind person for 1000 miles in every direction of you, but to the Tumblr crowd, simply using the word "blind" is a demonstration of just how evil you are, and how uncaring you are towards people with disabilities.
It goes even further though with the levels of mystifying stupidity, such as the conversation I saw the other day where someone used the phrase "hoisted by their own petard". Someone replied with, essentially, "I agree, but I find the suffix troubling." Naturally the first person asked "What suffix?", to which the other said "You said 'tard'". Yes, apparently real words that contain other "abelist" words are wrong now. It's a bit like people getting upset over the word "niggardly".
I'm deaf... (well, damn near deaf with two hearing aids blasting my eardrums... specially with Metallica/A7X blaring ).
Honestly I had never heard this term before and since the creation of this thread I have seen it twice. This is more proof that everything originates in Dakka's OT and radiates outward.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ahtman wrote: Honestly I had never heard this term before and since the creation of this thread I have seen it twice. This is more proof that everything originates in Dakka's OT and radiates outward.
You just culturally appropriated the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon from the Germans. Check your imperialist cismale privilege.
so i guess from the land of seamen. 
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fething hate this crap. 
