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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 19:51:58
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Ha ha, all I can think when I look at those is why on earth would you give a model with "stupidity" that much firepower?
I love skaven warpstone tech but I think it's getting a bit out of hand. If they want to make them with so many guns just hurry up and make Hrud already
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:04:07
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Vargheist wrote:
omg that chest-mounted ratling gun looks sooo bad
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Also the one in the middle looks like some kind of champion , he is slightly more armored and warpstone "powered"
My goodness.. Those are laughably, hoirribly, terribly bad.... Holy lightning nipples batman! Fear my Chestling gun, puny man-thing! Wow, just wow..
Once again, GW is doing a great job of saving me from feeling like I need to spend any money on their models.
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
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"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:08:16
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Wonder how much customization you can do between the models. When I first saw the Blight Kings, I thought they were somewhat limited when it came to variation, but ended up being one of the most impressive and variable plastic kits I've ever purchased.
Just looking at these, they seem a bit more limited.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:11:28
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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I kinda like them, but they are increadibly cheesy looking. It's not bad on its own, but I'm not sure it matches the army's aesthetic. Then again, a different paint job would probably make a big difference, one that's not so clean and bright
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:14:42
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Bi'ios wrote:I kinda like them, but they are increadibly cheesy looking.
I see it!
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:27:42
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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[DCM]
Stonecold Gimster
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And at first glance I thought I was seeing GW finally putting Skaven into the 40K universe.
For a "Fantasy era" critter, they have more firepower than most of the stuff in the 41st millenium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 20:57:30
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Maybe they are Skaven Centurions. Rats in armor, inside of armored rat ogres.
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daedalus wrote:
I mean, it's Dakka. I thought snide arguments from emotion were what we did here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 21:27:39
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Been Around the Block
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It seems that recently GW is doing a fine job sculpting anatomy, or "human" characters, but as soon as armour is involved, it gets toy-ish.
It reminds me of bullgryns, or dwarf gyrocopter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 21:30:39
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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What's with the round bases on the Screaming Bell/Plague Furnace?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 21:40:51
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Hum, Imagine we do not know anything about WFB or 40k and see this for the first time… I would say they are created for a scifi game of some sorts.
These have potential if you strip away lots of bits, I mean really lots of bits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 21:51:02
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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It's photoshopped. One of the furnace wheels isn't attached to the base...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 22:25:43
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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cygnnus wrote:Vargheist wrote:
omg that chest-mounted ratling gun looks sooo bad
Edit:
Also the one in the middle looks like some kind of champion , he is slightly more armored and warpstone "powered"
My goodness.. Those are laughably, hoirribly, terribly bad.... Holy lightning nipples batman! Fear my Chestling gun, puny man-thing! Wow, just wow..
Once again, GW is doing a great job of saving me from feeling like I need to spend any money on their models.
Valete,
JohnS
I like the one on the right with the warpfire thrower hands. But yes what the hell.is with the chest gun and warpstone nipples?
Other than the one on the right I'm not a fan of the other ones really. Poses are nice but to much armour on the middle guy and that chest gun is dumb lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 22:30:55
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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I really like those. They look kinda stupid but that works with Skaven...
In my opinion all the Skaven end times models have been awesome! Haven't properly seen the plastic Grey Seer yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 22:33:33
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I like 'em.
Nipple dischargers and all.
I'm assuming 3 to a box?
3 belly gunners would be quite a lot of guns for one unit.
I am already thinking how fun these would be to go along with the new Veermyn Mantic are supposed to be doing for Deadzone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 22:49:46
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Add me to the crew who think they look really fun! I agree that they're looking a bit tooled up to be in 'Fantasy' as it stands but then again, these are the End Times!
I don't like the belly gun much and I feel we could afford to loose the warpstone nipples but these would be a small modifications to make for what are a group of pretty nifty looking models!
Another change I'd have made at the sculpting stage would be to have the one rat ogre physically carrying a giant rattling gun and operating it as such as opposed to having it attached as an appendage as it would look great next to the puny two man weapon teams!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 22:57:33
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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I dig all the new skavan stuff, and fits with the current direction for the army.
In the 1st end times book they state that the skavan have created a telephone network connecting all the skavan across the globe. The Skavan are prety much the evil steam punk rats at this point, they just lack top hats and snidely whiplash mustaches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 23:09:35
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Serious Squig Herder
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Hmm - the two less cyborg-y ones look better than the one we first saw. But I still can't say I'm a fan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 23:12:27
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's because we see the models at war, not at leisure. There's plenty of mention in the Thanqoul novels of "eccentric" Skaven that wear human dress and mannerisms ala the wizards of Harry Potter when they need to blend in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 23:16:21
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Dakka Veteran
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They don't look too bad, nice and bulky with plenty of loadout options, more than I was expecting in fact, and by the looks of it not too bad level of variety within the unit. I'll be
very interested in seeing the sprues for these guys in the next week or so, and more importantly the conversion potential for turning these into normal Rat-Ogres, which
I'd imagine we'll see a lot of.
With that said I'd echo other peoples opinions about the armour, it really needs a bit of roughing up and I'd personally get rid of the shoulder pads and move the nipple guns
to the forearms or something, the chest mounted rattling gun is a little silly too but I could just grab a spare Terminator chain-gun and mount it on his shoulder warmachine style.
All and all nothing a few simple conversions can't fix. Quite like the the colour scheme too, and strangely enough its not far off the scheme I was planning for my own
Ratfolk army so I guess its nice to see it working.
SilverDevilfish wrote:
Also I believe the Ratling Gun one was created with Nazi Science (wonder how many people will get this).
So what your telling us is these guys are going to be really tough during the actual game, but then die off screen in Stalingrad with no explanation after?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 23:41:55
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Foxy Wildborne
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Call my recaster, tell him he's a rich man!
Seriously, I like the Skacurions. It's the Militarium Tempestus paint scheme that is naff. Just imagine the armour painted as normal Skaven stuff, rusty iron or moldy brass, and you're golden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 01:03:33
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I liked that model so much until I saw the chest gun. Why oh why do that? It's the kind of thing Hi-Tech Miniatures would do, make a great model and then just add one detail that ruins the whole thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 01:25:11
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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Rolt wrote:and more importantly the conversion potential for turning these into normal Rat-Ogres, which
I'd imagine we'll see a lot of.
Why on earth would someone convert these into normal rat ogres? I don't think you've played skaven enough to realize rat ogres are not good lol these guys will have armour in their rules ( id imagine heavy armour) and normal rat ogres have no save which makes them awfully bad lol plus the island of blood rat ogres have some really nice sculpts already so no need to convert.
These look like they will be slightly larger than the normal rat ogres but its hard to tell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 01:29:07
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Calculating Commissar
pontiac, michigan; usa
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chiefbigredman wrote: cygnnus wrote:Vargheist wrote:
omg that chest-mounted ratling gun looks sooo bad
Edit:
Also the one in the middle looks like some kind of champion , he is slightly more armored and warpstone "powered"
My goodness.. Those are laughably, hoirribly, terribly bad.... Holy lightning nipples batman! Fear my Chestling gun, puny man-thing! Wow, just wow..
Once again, GW is doing a great job of saving me from feeling like I need to spend any money on their models.
Valete,
JohnS
I like the one on the right with the warpfire thrower hands. But yes what the hell.is with the chest gun and warpstone nipples?
Other than the one on the right I'm not a fan of the other ones really. Poses are nice but to much armour on the middle guy and that chest gun is dumb lol
So just knock em off if you can. We still know what they count as. Besides if you're a decent modeller you could probably add the ratling gun above his head or above one shoulder. For laughs you could attach it to his crotch and kill people with that.
Just to clarify with you guys i'm pretty sure the warp lightning claws aren't a melee weapon but mini warp lightning cannons. I'm rather curious as to how they work because mounting 2 or so warp lightning cannons on anything just sounds OP.
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Speaking of mecha-hitler is anybody else getting a frankenstein/wolfenstein vibe out of this? Remember the tesla guns and crazy chain guns from 'return to castle wolfenstein'?
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Oh and just so everybody knows whether they look good or bad by the internet's standards i'm still getting them. They might need a little work but in most cases nothing too serious. Besides we have yet to see what the rules and points costs for all these options are. For all we know this could be another semi-dumb or dumb looking model with the most awesome rules ever. I'm a little curious about the one on the far right. Is that dual warpfire throwers or is one or both actually poisoned wind mortars? The end of the gun is just pointed a little weirdly. Perhaps the model can pose the end of the gun differently?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 02:43:56
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Well, I finally have models I like for obliterators in my 40k Chaos Space Marine armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 02:45:54
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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Hey now you may be able to get ONE good model out of that...
Lower part & head from the middle one, Torso from the right & gun arms from the left. Yay trippling the cost to get a decent model!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 03:38:27
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Steady Dwarf Warrior
Near the bottom of the world
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The Verminators have arrived!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 05:13:36
Subject: Re:End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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Oh bother, those are absurd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 05:52:48
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Ya know im reallllly digging the less armored one on the bottom right. now THAT looks skaveneee
the chest cannon is meh. and the mega armored rat is boring too.
the bottom right one is juuuuust right.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 05:55:05
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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To hell with the haters. I got my Verminlord today, I'll be getting Thanquol/Boneripper next weekend, and I'm getting at least two boxes of these guys when they come out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/11 06:01:21
Subject: End times book IV: SKAVEN
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Breotan wrote:To hell with the haters. I got my Verminlord today, I'll be getting Thanquol/Boneripper next weekend, and I'm getting at least two boxes of these guys when they come out.
Eh i think its fine to disagree with the way they are going with the aesthetics.
and i really do think its the paint job that is ruining it.
Gonna wait to see the rules before i splurg on models.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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