Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)

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**changemod**

Hollismason wrote:
Yeah neither allow you to go beyond that 4+.

Yeah, what I'm referring to is does +1 +1 -1 all apply? Though you can't have 3+ reanimation, does the +2 kick in when the instant death penalty is applied and nullify it?

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Hollismason wrote:
Well Ghost Arks are Fast Attack, so you can still do the party boat.

Buy a Fast Attack Ghost Ark, dump a bunch of Necron Lords in there with War Scythes and go to town, less effective now though.

Absurdly so. You'd get nowhere near your points return back on that.

**Red Corsair**

Hollismason wrote:
You'll obliterate a lot more than you think with ST6 blasts just from mass number of hits on the unit. Pair them up with a Destroyer Lord for preferred enemy then when you need to break off and grab a objective.

Gauss Blasters though are probably a better bet, ST5 Gauss that ignores cover and you can put out 20 shots that's twin linked. That'll put the hurt on a lot of things.

I'm sure someone could do the statistical odds on a Gliding Flyrant and what it would do to a Wave Serpent.

I'm okay with

Tomb Blades
220 Points
10 Gauss Blasters

~18 hits on a wave serpent which gives you the 3 HPs. So IF you can get all 10 into RF range alive you should down one. Pretty awesome actually.

Against a GLIDING HT it will get you 18 hits and 12 wounds so 4 should go through again for a kill. Against a SWOOPING HT it is much worse. ~6 hits for 2 wounds of which ~1.4 go through.

**Hollismason**

Not that difficult to do considering their 3+ save and 5++ RP and 12 inch move. Wave Serpents going to ignore their cover save anyway.

You could attach a Destroyer Lord to them.

Could you give odds on that and taking down a Flyrant?

**WrentheFaceless**

How many points are Night Scythes in their 5th ed codex?

**Red Corsair**

I edited it. They won't be worth relying on for anti flier to be honest. Too many points fishing for 6's and same goes for FMC where despite only needing 5+ to wound most times, many have a built in save making it ineffective.

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WrentheFaceless wrote:
How many points are Night Scythes in their 5th ed codex?

100 lol

**SilverDevilfish**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
How many points are Night Scythes in their 5th ed codex?

100 points.

165 points with minimum troop tax.

They're now 130 points.

215 points with minimum troop tax

**WrentheFaceless**

I'm guessing thats a hefty increase which should mean less of them yes?

**Red Corsair**

IMO the NS is still slightly too cheap.

It's a dedicated transport that can safely transport units 36" with a stalkers main weapon on an av11 all around flier for only 130 lol. I am glad it went up at least but they are still a steal when you look at other fliers to be honest.

**jms40k**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
I'm guessing thats a hefty increase which should mean less of them yes?

If you wanted to run 6 night scythes, you could do so with only a 45 point difference from previous codex (using them as FA slots as well).

**Hollismason**

100 points.

Stuff that got a price decrease

Destroyer Lord -15 points

Barge Lord - 35 points

Death Marks - 1 ppm

Triarch Stalkers - 25 ppm

Praetorians - 12 ppm

Lychguard - 15 ppm

Now look at this

Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscopes and Shield Vanes - 14 ppm

H. Destroyer - 10 ppm

Uh that's all I can think of right now.

**Red Corsair**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
I'm guessing thats a hefty increase which should mean less of them yes?

You will see less total stuff but I doubt you will see less then 3 in an army still on average.

**SilverDevilfish**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
I'm guessing thats a hefty increase which should mean less of them yes?

Not likely they're still a good transport and the best AA for the army (unless something we haven't seen turns out to be really good AA).

**changemod**

SilverDevilfish wrote:
(unless something we haven't seen turns out to be really good AA).

Minimum Tomb Blade unit manning a Quad Gun with Nebuloscopes?

**SilverDevilfish**

changemod wrote:
SilverDevilfish wrote:
(unless something we haven't seen turns out to be really good AA).

Minimum Tomb Blade unit manning a Quad Gun with Nebuloscopes?

Ohhhh never thought of that. It's like having an old Hydra.

**WrentheFaceless**

So of the necron players in here, who's going to put a flavor of a c'tan in to roll on the fun table?

**Hollismason**

So would Solar Thermite or whatever it's called now increase the ST of the Weapons on the Bargelord since it has 1 profile.

**changemod**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
So of the necron players in here, who's going to put a flavor of a c'tan in to roll on the fun table?

I'm the "own more than I need and switch up my list constantly" type, so I'll probably shuffle one in sooner or later.

Probably Nightbringer with a God Shackle. T8, a reliable secondary gun that heals him and the fact that honestly Deceiver's utility tricks don't seem great and Tran doesn't have "C'tan Shard" in his name so probably can't be buffed even though he's no longer anything but a generic C'tan Shard without a name on the profile.

**Matt.Kingsley**

I know I'll be using a C'tan, the hard part will be deciding which one...

I think I'll probably end up using the Nightbringer for the free 'Psychic Shriek'

**changemod**

Also Writhing Worldscape honestly doesn't do a damn thing other than make anyone charging the C'tan strike at I1... And who exactly decided to charge a C'tan?

**WrentheFaceless**

Funny that the non-psyker Necrons get the superior non-deniable version of Psychic Scream

**Thokt**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
Funny that the non-psyker Necrons get the superior non-deniable version of Psychic Scream

We do not require your psychics, nor we will suffer the daemons you provoke.

**ClockworkZion**

More from Jackedup:

Obelisk (300 points, Superheavy vehicle, skimmer)

BS4, AV14 all around, HP6

Four Tesla Spheres: 24", S7 AP-, Heavy 5

Terrain within 18" is dangerous terrain, even for FMCs and Flyers that don't usually take DT tests.

An Obelisk can come into play as "powered down", in which case it has 3++, and cannot move or shoot. During the movement phase it can power up, and once powered up it cannot power down again.

An Obelisk entering from deep strike is always powered up.

**H.B.M.C.**

AP-?

That seems... lame. Am I missing something here?

**Hollismason**

Thats... not that great sorry. It's just like nope.

**rollawaythestone**

I dunno... I like that Obelisk. That's a ton of Str 7 Tesla shots. Plus a Thunderblitz if something gets close and you are immune to the Pen table.

**RivenSkull**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
AP-?

That seems... lame. Am I missing something here?

Tesla. They never have AP value.

**H.B.M.C.**

Oh, it's Tesla. Right. Missed that part. Sorry.

**Goresaw**

Its interesting.

The prime lure is its exceptional durability.

Its 'probably' better than anni barges for the points. You lose the twin link, but get one more shot. And again, the thing is a 6 hull point AV 14 beast that is essentially immune to the pen table.

**Xilvi**

i'm interested in getting my hands on the codex now, can't wait to start a new build with the points reduction to some of the models and getting my hands on the new Necron Overlord.

**Goresaw**

Whats the range on the Triarch Stalker's guns again?

EDIT: Nevermind. You can give it gauss cannons.

I could see some interesting synergy between Destroyers and some stalkers.

Basically you turn your destroyers death machines. +2 to hit with reroll thanks to prefered enemy. Couple that with the formation and you're essentially 100% to hit and reroll all wounds.