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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:25:18
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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If they take a note from Aeronautica Imperialis then we don´t need to worry about the dials.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 21:27:30
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I actually think they might be unlocking something other than the KS exclusive Battlecruisers (which now that I know they will simply "count-as" a normal type of cruiser, I'm not as interested in - good for the long-term health of the game, though).
The KS exclusives are listed at the very bottom of the stretch goal map as time based unlocks:
Timed based Rewards:
25th November - KS Exclusive Battlecruisers for Scourge, Shaltari and PHR (Bolt-on)
But in the normal stretch goal map, there are these slots:
Still Locked:
£275k - Miniature Unlock to be announced
£290k - Dropfleet Commander Bases Pack (Bolt-On)
£300k - High Rank Backers - 1 Free Shaltari Frigate Sprue (makes 4 Frigates)
£310k - Miniature Unlock to be announced
£325k - Miniature Unlock to be announced
£350k - High Rank Backers - 1 Free PHR Frigate Sprue (makes 4 Frigates)
Only 3 of the "Miniature Unlock to be announced" lines, but it certainly seems like it must be the above station at £275k, since they preceded the picture with this line:
We will have a lot more information about the next few stretch goals in the next update, along with some more previews too. But in the mean time...
I'm going to guess that it is a civilian space station or the like that would function as terrain / an objective / something to defend or attack in a scenario (they are very big on scenario play in DzC and seemingly will be here, too). Copying the pic over to the new page:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 22:51:06
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Malika2 wrote:
By the way, will there also be ordnance? Stuff like torpedoes, fighters, bombers, landers, etc?
There are strike craft (but not torps or boarding craft)but no idea what they do except that fighters can be assigned to ships to increase their point defense value.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 23:19:36
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Silent Puffin? wrote: Malika2 wrote:
By the way, will there also be ordnance? Stuff like torpedoes, fighters, bombers, landers, etc?
There are strike craft (but not torps or boarding craft)but no idea what they do except that fighters can be assigned to ships to increase their point defense value.
That's too bad about the Torpedos and boarding craft but I can see it. I'm interested to see how they do this, as the ordnance phase was one of the things that made Battlefleet Gothic so good.
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Chaos - 3,000
Seraphon - 2100
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/03 23:34:01
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked -£240k next
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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I'm looking forward to it, gameplay from the BoW videos looks awesome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 02:06:42
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, I caved, this just looks too good to pass up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 02:26:21
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Nice, welcome aboard Alex
I think the two starter pledge in particular is amazing, if you can find someone else who wants in! (Even if you both just want a starter each and split the stretch goals)
We're actually splitting one three ways (UCM for me, Scourge, and everything else!). But even if you both want to keep both factions, since the exclusive ship has no gameplay content (just counts as another type of cruiser) it's not a huge loss for one to go without it (I'm actually forgoing it in our pledge even though I'm doing UCM - the later battleships will be my centerpiece!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 02:32:34
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah I went with the 2x 2-player starter with the KS exclusive ship. With the free cruisers, frigates and map it really tempted me over the edge! Added a couple of map packs and am looking forward to seeing the space stations and other battlecruisers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 03:10:21
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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If I go in it'll be at the Captain level. If it hits 500k then I can sell enough of the stuff I don't want more than likely to make it worth my cash so early.
Looking forward to whenever we see PHR. That's the faction I'm most interested in because it's the only one I'm kinda interested in on the ground game.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 03:11:39
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Yeah it seems like a really good value - 20 free ships once we hit 350k (250k already, can't imagine we wouldn't get there by the end!). And even a single starter will get 20 free ships if it hits 500k (and double starter pledges would get 36, not even counting the KS exclusive).
Can always swap some of the extras with folks who plan to run those factions, too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 04:27:19
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not botherd about the value, I just want to help KS this project (even though they don't need it!) I hope they do mouse mat style gaming mats and t-shirts as add ons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 08:51:25
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Dave confirmed in the podcast, that there will be torbedoes! But boarding would only be done via command cards, if it will even be in. This is not 40k.
More on torbedoes:
Usually missiles and such are counted as close action weapons. They can't fire outside your scanning range, because they would be all shot down by enemy point defense anyway. "standard" sized torpedoes should also be included as a close action weapon.
The torpedoes that will be used as a special weapon in Dropfleet are not the torpedoes we know. They may even get another name. They are huge, like 1/3 size of a frigate. They are so heavely armored that point defense can't shoot them down before impact. This kind of torpedo is used as dreadnought killer. It still has only a short range, because aiming. But they are the bane of heavely armored vessels.
So far, only PHR has a ship with those "special" torpedoes.
All infos taken from the podcast. And i have to say, it sounds awesome.
EDIT: Fighters and bombers will have models according to the podcast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 09:12:38
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £250k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kind of reminds me of the "Dreadnought" from that Star Trek Voyager episode.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 17:36:30
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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So much hate in the comment section...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 17:49:25
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Comment section of what?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 17:55:10
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dropfleet Commander.
Y'know, the Kickstarter that this thread is about...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 18:29:38
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I have a rule about not venturing into KS comment threads, so please share with me what the hate is about. Rules? Pricing? Brian Blessedlessness?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 18:34:05
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:I have a rule about not venturing into KS comment threads, so please share with me what the hate is about. Rules? Pricing? Brian Blessedlessness?
As far as I can tell, every Kickstarter since Bones 1 has complained about not having as many miniatures in it as Bones 1, despite the fact that most Bones 1 ended up buried in closets.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 18:47:03
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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judgedoug wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:I have a rule about not venturing into KS comment threads, so please share with me what the hate is about. Rules? Pricing? Brian Blessedlessness?
As far as I can tell, every Kickstarter since Bones 1 has complained about not having as many miniatures in it as Bones 1, despite the fact that most Bones 1 ended up buried in closets.
Most of my Bones 1 was painted by minors and lost in the back yard/eaten by the dog. Money well spent.
While I will never argue against more miniatures in a kickstarter campaign, I'd consider Dropfleet to be solidly on the quality-over-quantity side, a Kingdom Death: Monster of spaceships if you will.
How does DFC compare to the Halo game? It seems like Halo gives you more ships, but they are smaller on average, for a slightly higher price. Certainly DFC blows Armada out of the water on every metric except play-it-out-of-the-boxiness and IP-milkability.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:14:18
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - Shaltari and PHR unlocked - £275k next
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:21:45
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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That's beautiful. OMG I may have to get a UCM and PHR fleet.
They look like Giger xenomorph heads - so that's probably why I am in love with them
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/11/04 19:24:42
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:26:38
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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The New Miss Macross!
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The PHR look great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:31:34
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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That's a quality spaceship.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:36:10
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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I'm going to have to find out how the really glossy white PHR were painted for DZC, it would suit these ships perfectly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:38:38
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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A couple of thin coats of gloss varnish over the white, I suspect.
Agreed that would look pretty neat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:43:11
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Great ship design, the Alien analogy struck me also.
Now it pains me even more that I am "forced" to get Scourge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:47:13
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Major
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Yeah, I'm liking the PHR and the UCM. I can live with the Scourge, and I'd have to see the Shaltari in person but I'm not a fan of the renders.
So, a pretty decent success rate overall, IMO. I'll probably end up at Captain+ at the rate they're going.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:48:33
Subject: Re:Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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Man, I love the sleek design of that PHR ship. Very minimalist but enhanced by the fins. Can't wait to see these on a board!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:55:12
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Souleater wrote:A couple of thin coats of gloss varnish over the white, I suspect.
Agreed that would look pretty neat.
mix some Vallejo Gloss Medium into your white, apply a few thin coats. Automatically Appended Next Post: Krinsath wrote:Yeah, I'm liking the PHR and the UCM. I can live with the Scourge, and I'd have to see the Shaltari in person but I'm not a fan of the renders.
So, a pretty decent success rate overall, IMO. I'll probably end up at Captain+ at the rate they're going.
Honestly the Shaltari look so bizarre and alien that I think once they're 3d and in-hand they'll be several orders of magnitude better - and imagine a whole fleet of them on the table.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/04 19:59:11
Subject: Dropzone/Dropfleet Commander news - Dropfleet Kickstarter - PHR Ajax Cruiser Pg22 - £275k next
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I love the Shaltari designs. I don't actually understand what is so off-putting about them. They look a bit like Babylon 5 ships.
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