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Just to get this straight:
These Battleships we're getting pics of are NOT from the Kickstarter, right? Those were the smaller Battlecruisers, while the Battleships are much bigger, is that correct?

 Mymearan wrote:
Just to get this straight:
These Battleships we're getting pics of are NOT from the Kickstarter, right? Those were the smaller Battlecruisers, while the Battleships are much bigger, is that correct?

Yeah although they will be the first post release release.

While talking to Hawk Dave at Gencon, he told me that the battleships will follow the original release by a couple of months and will be followed by additional releases of the nonkickstarter battle cruisers and the corvettes. The stations, terrain and launch assets will be in there somewhere as well.

Do we have numbers of the precise number of ships we're actually getting in the kickstarter at the different levels. Between the whole starter fleet, frigate bonanza, bonus sprue things I haven't the foggiest anymore...

I am because my store has put up a price list now...

RRP

Starter set £65
Activation cards £8
Space station £45
Launch assets £20
Battleships £30
Starter fleets £40

 Compel wrote:

I am because my store has put up a price list now...

RRP

Starter set £65
Activation cards £8
Space station £45
Launch assets £20
Battleships £30
Starter fleets £40

I don't think that these are official as Hawk hadn't given retailers prices etc, at least they hadn't last weekend

A Commander gets 4 cruisers and 8 frigates for UCM and Scourge and 1 cruiser and 4 frigates for PHR and Shaltari.
A Captain gets 1 Battlecruiser, 7 Cruisers and 12 Frigates for UCM, 7 Cruisers and 12 Friagtes for the Scourge and 1 Cruiser and 8 Frigates for the PHR and Shaltari. Plus the cruise liner, T-shirt and other odds and ends.

They had popped up last night

 Compel wrote:
They had popped up last night

A few US websites had price lists up over the weekend but one of the Hawk guys said that they were pure guesswork and they have apparently been taken down now. Of course today is a new day so you never know and those prices look about right so.....?

Having seen the Battleships in person, they really arent that much larger than the Cruisers. They are similar in size to the battlecruisers, only slightly longer and a tad bit bulkier. The Shaltari and the Scourge BBs seemed much larger in comparison to the cruisers than the PHR and UCM ones.

So, smaller than the old BFG battleships that were overpriced at $35?

No, they are not smaller than the old BFG battleships. I saw them at Gencon.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
No, they are not smaller than the old BFG battleships. I saw them at Gencon.

Isn't that one of the battleships in the photo with, apparently, Andre the Giant's hand? If they are larger than that looks, then I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Still bummed that this was supposed too ship end of JUN, no mid AUG....

 FeindusMaximus wrote:
Still bummed that this was supposed too ship end of JUN, no mid AUG....

After some of the debacles I am waiting on that are years late this is no problem at all. Am itching to get started myself though

One of the computer game kickstarters that I backed is now 2 years late and they don't even have a playable alpha. 2 months late is nothing :)

It's also worth mentioning that Hawk is a tiny company (only a handful of employees IIRC) and they're also releasing a new rulebook (Reconquest: Phase 2) and lots of new models for DZC at the same time as Dropfleet is coming out. On top of that the Dropfleet kickstarter exploded well beyond what anyone anticipated and add-ons like the modular space station added to the workload. Frankly, I think that the level of productivity from such a small company is pretty impressive. They've also been really good about keeping their customers in the loop.

While I want my new toys as much as the next guy, a few months' delay is well within the acceptable range for delivery. I'll bide my time painting up the new shinies for DzC.

Think its worth noting that 99% of kickstarters that do well are never ever on time, regardless of company. Silly to think/hope otherwise.

str00dles1 wrote:
Think its worth noting that 99% of kickstarters that do well are never ever on time, regardless of company. Silly to think/hope otherwise.

While true, this does not lessen the sting of it basically being guaranteed that my DFC is going to arrive just *after* all of my holiday time I was hoping to use to assemble and paint. Instead it's likely to arrive right when I get slammed with after-summer work. Definitely disappointing.

Been a while since ive seen a BFG BB but theyre about the same size IIRC. I think the Shaltari one is probably roughly the size of the Planetkiller, while the UCM one is probably only a hair smaller than say an Emperor Class Battleship.

From their instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI8G0k_DjrV/?taken-by=hawkwargames

This will be going to the top of my to do list when mine arrives!

str00dles1 wrote:
Think its worth noting that 99% of kickstarters that do well are never ever on time, regardless of company. Silly to think/hope otherwise.

This my 2nd KS. 1st was FLGs Fatmats that delivered ON-time.

It's all dependent on the type of campaign you back - some are literally just a concept, others are basically finished products. The Fat Mats were definitely the latter, and I've gotten a ton of great use out of mine! But there's also some cool campaigns I've backed that were earlier in development, and thus still open to a lot of backer feedback and tweaking (but also more prone to delays).

I actually think this campaign was nicely in the middle - pretty far along in development, but still some left to be done with backers getting some insight into the process. Really can't wait to receive mine!

 FeindusMaximus wrote:

str00dles1 wrote:
Think its worth noting that 99% of kickstarters that do well are never ever on time, regardless of company. Silly to think/hope otherwise.

This my 2nd KS. 1st was FLGs Fatmats that delivered ON-time.

Take a look at the product. A game mat is child's play compared to a entire miniature game.

Battlecruisers were Kickstarter exclusive.

Battleships are slightly larger than Battlecruisers.

BOW had dave on their weekender showing off the battleship varients looking very nice

Battleships somewhere here in this video




Something interesting to note - Shaltari battleships come in 2 variants, and you can make either one by simply swapping out a piece.

All battleships have parts for two variants except ucm which has three variants

Yes, but do they share the same blister with interchangeable parts?

In The video dave says that the blister will be able to make all variants with some easier to switch than others the shaltari just the top piece and phr bow needing 2 bits swapped never showed the scourge or ucm as they had all types ready made

Most look like they will be pretty easy to magnetise, only tricky one might be the UCM carrier battleship as you have to swap out the prow. The other two variants (turrets or orbital cannons) should be a very easy swap.