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Iwas just having a look at the new set(s) on the GW website. 'll definitely pick up a box (or two) of the harlequins. £31 for a box of 6....not the cheapest but....ehhh....ok. There's some nice choices in there and have a few ideas already to make them all as individual as posible. The Solitaire though......£21 for a single troop sized figure....bit on the steep side I reckon. It's a 9 piece kit with NO build choices (barring the wee bit to stick on for his holo shield).....they're not gonna be making any friends with that one. Just my 2 cents fwiw

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


So it would be odd for Harlequins not to be labelled "Eldar Harlequins" if they were only in Eldar. But obviously the most compelling thing is they have their own tab

In the WD rules for the boxes, it's pretty clear that they are a faction. It says, under Using the New Models: "You can use the new Harlequin Troupe and Solitaire as allies for your Warhammer 40,000 armies. Their levels of alliance are as listed below: Battle Brothers: Dark Eldar, Eldar. Allies of Convienience: Armies of the Imperium, Tau Empire. ..."

Therefore, it would cause immense controversy if they were called "Eldar Harlequin Troupe" because, from a competitive perspective:

- Most tournaments only allow for 1 ally. So if it's an Eldar Primary Detachment, Harlequins would take up that slot. So, you couldn't take IK or DE, for example.
- If it's part of the Eldar faction, it would fit on a CAD/Formation slots (Troop or Elite), rather than as an ally

I'm happy with the naming, so's to eliminate any rules lawyering based on the box unit name.

Januine wrote:
Iwas just having a look at the new set(s) on the GW website. 'll definitely pick up a box (or two) of the harlequins. £31 for a box of 6....not the cheapest but....ehhh....ok. There's some nice choices in there and have a few ideas already to make them all as individual as posible. The Solitaire though......£21 for a single troop sized figure....bit on the steep side I reckon. It's a 9 piece kit with NO build choices (barring the wee bit to stick on for his holo shield).....they're not gonna be making any friends with that one. Just my 2 cents fwiw

The troupe is £24 and the solitaire is £16?

Talys wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


So it would be odd for Harlequins not to be labelled "Eldar Harlequins" if they were only in Eldar. But obviously the most compelling thing is they have their own tab

In the WD rules for the boxes, it's pretty clear that they are a faction. It says, under Using the New Models: "You can use the new Harlequin Troupe and Solitaire as allies for your Warhammer 40,000 armies. Their levels of alliance are as listed below: Battle Brothers: Dark Eldar, Eldar. Allies of Convienience: Armies of the Imperium, Tau Empire. ..."

Therefore, it would cause immense controversy if they were called "Eldar Harlequin Troupe" because, from a competitive perspective:

- Most tournaments only allow for 1 ally. So if it's an Eldar Primary Detachment, Harlequins would take up that slot. So, you couldn't take IK or DE, for example.
- If it's part of the Eldar faction, it would fit on a CAD/Formation slots (Troop or Elite), rather than as an ally

I'm happy with the naming, so's to eliminate any rules lawyering based on the box unit name.

I'm confused here. Harlequins are in the Eldar rulebook as an elites choice.

Relapse wrote:

Talys wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


So it would be odd for Harlequins not to be labelled "Eldar Harlequins" if they were only in Eldar. But obviously the most compelling thing is they have their own tab

In the WD rules for the boxes, it's pretty clear that they are a faction. It says, under Using the New Models: "You can use the new Harlequin Troupe and Solitaire as allies for your Warhammer 40,000 armies. Their levels of alliance are as listed below: Battle Brothers: Dark Eldar, Eldar. Allies of Convienience: Armies of the Imperium, Tau Empire. ..."

Therefore, it would cause immense controversy if they were called "Eldar Harlequin Troupe" because, from a competitive perspective:

- Most tournaments only allow for 1 ally. So if it's an Eldar Primary Detachment, Harlequins would take up that slot. So, you couldn't take IK or DE, for example.
- If it's part of the Eldar faction, it would fit on a CAD/Formation slots (Troop or Elite), rather than as an ally

I'm happy with the naming, so's to eliminate any rules lawyering based on the box unit name.

I'm confused here. Harlequins are in the Eldar rulebook as an elites choice.

Don't worry. They won't be in the next Eldar codex.

 Wilson wrote:

Januine wrote:
Iwas just having a look at the new set(s) on the GW website. 'll definitely pick up a box (or two) of the harlequins. £31 for a box of 6....not the cheapest but....ehhh....ok. There's some nice choices in there and have a few ideas already to make them all as individual as posible. The Solitaire though......£21 for a single troop sized figure....bit on the steep side I reckon. It's a 9 piece kit with NO build choices (barring the wee bit to stick on for his holo shield).....they're not gonna be making any friends with that one. Just my 2 cents fwiw

The troupe is £24 and the solitaire is £16?

Soz - my bad; I hit £ instead of €

 Dendarien wrote:

Relapse wrote:

Talys wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


So it would be odd for Harlequins not to be labelled "Eldar Harlequins" if they were only in Eldar. But obviously the most compelling thing is they have their own tab

In the WD rules for the boxes, it's pretty clear that they are a faction. It says, under Using the New Models: "You can use the new Harlequin Troupe and Solitaire as allies for your Warhammer 40,000 armies. Their levels of alliance are as listed below: Battle Brothers: Dark Eldar, Eldar. Allies of Convienience: Armies of the Imperium, Tau Empire. ..."

Therefore, it would cause immense controversy if they were called "Eldar Harlequin Troupe" because, from a competitive perspective:

- Most tournaments only allow for 1 ally. So if it's an Eldar Primary Detachment, Harlequins would take up that slot. So, you couldn't take IK or DE, for example.
- If it's part of the Eldar faction, it would fit on a CAD/Formation slots (Troop or Elite), rather than as an ally

I'm happy with the naming, so's to eliminate any rules lawyering based on the box unit name.

I'm confused here. Harlequins are in the Eldar rulebook as an elites choice.

Don't worry. They won't be in the next Eldar codex.

Right, just like the were in the old Dark Eldar (5e) Codex, but removed from the 7e Codex. So, you have a choice with your models at the moment, playing 6e Eldar (elites) or as the WD53 version (troops) with access to stuff like Neuro disruptor instead of shuriken pistol, and the new Starweaver dedicated transport (coming WD54). I'm guessing WD54 will have some other Harlequin stuff too, since we're missing Death Jesters and Shadowseers at the moment.



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Januine wrote:
Iwas just having a look at the new set(s) on the GW website. 'll definitely pick up a box (or two) of the harlequins. £31 for a box of 6....not the cheapest but....ehhh....ok. There's some nice choices in there and have a few ideas already to make them all as individual as posible. The Solitaire though......£21 for a single troop sized figure....bit on the steep side I reckon. It's a 9 piece kit with NO build choices (barring the wee bit to stick on for his holo shield).....they're not gonna be making any friends with that one. Just my 2 cents fwiw

Yeah, but this is the case with practically every unique/independent character/named character/hq. Looking only at plastics, Sanguine Priest, Succubus, BA Librarian, DE Avatar, Farseer, etc, are all very expensive models with no customization, or at most, a weapon swap. It's that way too with PP on the Warcasters (look at the price of Bradigus, for instance). Partly, the cost is justified by the manufacturer by more unique and more complex models; but mostly, it's just that they're not going to sell a ton of them, so they raise the price.

Taking DE Succubus for an example -- you could take a female Kabalite or Wych and build that model to look "Succubus-like" -- close enough for a reasonable proxy -- at like a tenth of the price. Or, looking at Blood Angels, you can build yourself a believable Dante out of Sanguinary Guard bits.

It's worth noting that the Codex:Apocrypha in this week's WD fairly explicitly mentions Shadowseers and Death Jesters and what they add to the Troupe, so I imagine they will turn up before the end of this release.

For the first time in ages, I've been interested in getting WD and it's sold out at GW

 Flashman wrote:
For the first time in ages, I've been interested in getting WD and it's sold out at GW

Go digital buddy- saves you a lot of trouble!

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Flashman wrote:
For the first time in ages, I've been interested in getting WD and it's sold out at GW

Go digital buddy- saves you a lot of trouble!

Yes, wife has an ipad, so I could do. I'm a grumpy (almost) middle aged man though and like my books and magazines to be corporeal

No biggie, I'll get the Codex when it appears.

These products were not officially announced yet but we have heard of them by reliable rumormongers:

Skyweaver Jetbikes (according to Darnok's source which was 100% correct so far)
Starweaver Transporter/Heavy Support Vehicle dual-kit (according to Sad Panda whose Solitaire miniature description was spot on a week before the pics got leaked)
Shadowseer (according to Sad Panda)
Deathjester ( " )


This can at least be considered being part of the release:

Codex: Harlequins (everything hints towards a printed codex book - the 'Quin webshop tab, several new unit datasheets in WD like during the other codex releases, yet missing content like the artefacts and wl traits, Swanland-style cover artwork in the video, ally allignments rules, etc)

Monday and Tuesday cannot come fast enough

Stop trying to make 'Quin happen.


It's Harlis.

One thing that I do have to keep in mind when I'm looking at the price of the Solitaire is that I only need one of them. I don't mind paying that higher price once compared to many times I suppose.

I can't wait to pick these bad boys up next week! I've already got my bottle caps saved up and stashed away!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Stop trying to make 'Quin happen.


It's Harlis.

Sorry but you're wrong. Clearly the only option is Space Clowns.

 xttz wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Stop trying to make 'Quin happen.


It's Harlis.

Sorry but you're wrong. Clearly the only option is Space Clowns.

Murder Death Space Clowns. Keeping the universe safe via the power of interpretive dance.

When the codex is released, would they do a special edition version of it too? with the art prints and such?

I'm a wee bit of a collector and that's deffs my bag

They did for Imperial Knights but not for Militarum Tempestus...so, maybe?

 Nyoom wrote:
When the codex is released, would they do a special edition version of it too? with the art prints and such?

I'm a wee bit of a collector and that's deffs my bag

I think that depends a lot on the nature of the codex. Have the one-unit codexes received special editions? I don’t recall MT, IK, and such getting them. That assumes there is a physical book in the first place, and it’s not purely digital.

I’m guessing “no”, but that’s just my personal opinion.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Stop trying to make 'Quin happen.


It's Harlis.

I prefer clown

 Nevelon wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Stop trying to make 'Quin happen.


It's Harlis.

Sorry but you're wrong. Clearly the only option is Space Clowns.

Murder Death Space Clowns. Keeping the universe safe via the power of interpretive dance.

Wouldn't that Be Killer Clowns from Outer Space? Oh wait, that's already a thing.

Never stopped GW before...

 Azreal13 wrote:
Never stopped GW before...

It came right out of our non-influenceable designer's minds!

Harlis (or Quins) (I think) go back way before this I'm sorry to inform you. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095444/

Or maybe not, looking at the dates.

 ceorron wrote:
Harlis (or Quins) (I think) go back way before this I'm sorry to inform you. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095444/

Or maybe not, looking at the dates.

It would be close. 40k compendium had harlequins, and that was around that time.

However -- have you guys actually seen Killer Klowns? Because the Klowns in there are the furthest things from a Harlequin Troupe Eldar of the Laughing God, they are not..

I'm looking at the new rules and liking them a lot. I've got around a dozen OLD Rogue Trader ish models and am looking to figure out what the weapons are on them. The Kiss and Shuriken Pistols are obvious enough, anyone with old school cred able to tell me what all else I'm looking at? There's sort of a power fist looking deal which could be Caress, and a couple of odd looking pistol/machineguns. Anyone?

Pics would help, but basically you'll (and I'm doing this from memory, so don't take it as gospel) have
Powerfist looking thing is a Powerfist
If they're not toting shuriken pistols, they're probably las pistols
Then you'll have a variety of swords, mostly power IIRC
There may be a death jester, he has a shuriken cannon

Now, being so old, after all that remembering I need to lie down.

Talys wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Harlis (or Quins) (I think) go back way before this I'm sorry to inform you. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095444/

Or maybe not, looking at the dates.

It would be close. 40k compendium had harlequins, and that was around that time.

However -- have you guys actually seen Killer Klowns? Because the Klowns in there are the furthest things from a Harlequin Troupe Eldar of the Laughing God, they are not..

Yes, I know they're completely unrelated, but when I hear "Killer Space Clowns" I think of that movie before I think of Harliquins, and the comparison made me laugh.

aushlo wrote:
I'm looking at the new rules and liking them a lot. I've got around a dozen OLD Rogue Trader ish models and am looking to figure out what the weapons are on them. The Kiss and Shuriken Pistols are obvious enough, anyone with old school cred able to tell me what all else I'm looking at? There's sort of a power fist looking deal which could be Caress, and a couple of odd looking pistol/machineguns. Anyone?

One of the problems is that in the old RT days, everyone used the same gear. Some races just favored certain things.



Top row middle guy the odd gun is a webber
Second row, first guy has a hand flamer
Bottom middle, the crystal looking one is a neural disruptor.

Everything else should be recognizable. Mostly las/shur pistols, power weapons, etc.

On bols, pg 25 of rumor roundup someone claims to have seen a wd scan with jetbikes.

He said they were longer than normal and had a pilot and another clown riding bitch style!!


Sounds promising and I hope we get scans!!!