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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The composition! The lighting! The angle!

Such photographic artistry.

Or, to put it a slightly different way:

Put it on a fething table. Turn off the damned flash and try to get the whole fething cover in one single picture. HOW HARD IS THIS???

*ahem*

not my pic

Oh I know that. It's just yet another picture from someone who's grasp on photography is only slightly above their grasp on breathing...

 plastictrees wrote:
Nice.
So that's literally a Venom right?

Wasn't the "Venom" originally a Harlequin vehicle anyways?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know that. It's just yet another picture from someone who's grasp on photography is only slightly above their grasp on breathing...

Lmao. +1 sir!

You have to understand that all of these photos are being taken by people being chased by angry dogs.

So looking at a Venom, the Starweaver is clearly a completely new kit, but is a Venom with the same Craftworld nods that the Skyweaver had. I like it. Might have liked something bigger a bit more, but I like it.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know that. It's just yet another picture from someone who's grasp on photography is only slightly above their grasp on breathing...

It doesn't stress me too much, depending on the location if you can't control the lighting it can be a pain in the arse to take a picture of a glossy page without reflections, it doesn't even look like they used a flash, probably just a reflection from a window or something, and I assume most are taken with a phone and no tripod, so shakiness is highly likely. So I don't really expect much. I wouldn't put much effort in either knowing that the book is coming out in a few days anyway.

Hmm... it's ok. Think I'm happy with a box of Harlies and the Solitaire.

That's presumably the 'heavy support varient', but I can't see how the transport version is going to carry a full sized troupe

 Absolutionis wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Nice.
So that's literally a Venom right?

Wasn't the "Venom" originally a Harlequin vehicle anyways?

They are different kits. The main difference I see by just looking at the engine intake is that on the Starweaver the intake is above the wing while on the Venom it is below the wing. The Starweaver also has the rollbar in the passenger compartment. Here's a pic of the two so you don't have to switch back and forth to do a comparison:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know that. It's just yet another picture from someone who's grasp on photography is only slightly above their grasp on breathing...

It doesn't stress me too much, depending on the location if you can't control the lighting it can be a pain in the arse to take a picture of a glossy page without reflections, it doesn't even look like they used a flash, probably just a reflection from a window or something, and I assume most are taken with a phone and no tripod, so shakiness is highly likely. So I don't really expect much. I wouldn't put much effort in either knowing that the book is coming out in a few days anyway.

True.

These "leaks" 4 or 5 days before the official WD-release seem pointless anyhow. If you can't beat the release by .. dunno .. a month, it's hardly a "leak" anyhow.

You're ignoring the potential for a Clown Car special rule.

Sweet! I already converted a bunch of vypers into corsair venoms with shuriken cannons on top. Now they're apparently skyweavers for my Harlequin squads

Yeah but they could put the damned thing down at least, rather than trying to hold it and take a photo at the same time. This isn't a selfie FFS!

 Absolutionis wrote:
Wasn't the "Venom" originally a Harlequin vehicle anyways?

It was, so in a roundabout way the Harli's got their vehicle back, just with a different name.

I think this also confirms that the canopy text in the Skyweaver description was meant for the Starweaver as it has the same Venom style partial and full canopy.

Could have some sort of invasion Beamer like the Night Scythe or a built in WWP projector.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Nice.
So that's literally a Venom right?

Wasn't the "Venom" originally a Harlequin vehicle anyways?

They are different kits. The main difference I see by just looking at the engine intake is that on the Starweaver the intake is above the wing while on the Venom it is below the wing. The Starweaver also has the rollbar in the passenger compartment. Here's a pic of the two so you don't have to switch back and forth to do a comparison:

No, no. I mean in the original lore, the Harlequin transport was called a "Venom" but it had no model. When GW made the update DE codex, they gave the Dark Eldar a Vyper-like transport and called it a Venom.

Now it comes full circle with the Harlequins getting a transport, but it's not called a Venom. It's only natural that it's modeled similarly.

EDIT: Found the entry:

It's from back in 3rd Edition Citadel Journal. The mock-up is just a converted Eldar Vyper.

That's from the Journal list right?


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haha, so yes.

Nice. Well, it's clearly open-topped - I mean, Harlequins are literally hanging out of the top, it's so open-topped.

It looks like it's actually a different kit. You could easily get away with putting Harlies in Venoms and no one would notice the difference, but I'm guessing you pick this up for the crew. Hope it's priced the same as the Venom...

It's nice that the Harlis eventually got their vehicle back, even if it took several years/editions of the game.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but they could put the damned thing down at least, rather than trying to hold it and take a photo at the same time. This isn't a selfie FFS!

But then you put it down and turn off the flash and if the room has lighting above you suddenly you have an annoying shadow, either the regions in shadow are too dark and you can't see them or the regions not in shadow are too bright and you can't see them.

I've never understood why people complain about shaky/reflection cam leak shots when it's far easier to take a bad photo than a good one and I don't really expect people to take the time to set up for a good one. As someone who has attempted to photograph a book in order to digitise it, it's not exactly trivial taking good readable pics of a page, there's a reason scanners exist despite the prevalence of phones with cameras.

 plastictrees wrote:
You're ignoring the potential for a Clown Car special rule.

"Starweaver may carry up to 50 models"

 Accolade wrote:
It looks like it's actually a different kit. You could easily get away with putting Harlies in Venoms and no one would notice the difference, but I'm guessing you pick this up for the crew. Hope it's priced the same as the Venom...

Look at the gap between the nose and the front of the canopy, it's quite a lot longer on the Starweaver, I think it's going to be 30-50% bigger than a Venom.

The back is bigger too. Strange how it only still fits 6 (wait, does it fit 6?).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The back is bigger too. Strange how it only still fits 6 (wait, does it fit 6?).

I think it fits 12

Are open topped skimmer-transport tanks still...recommended? I've not played 40k since 5th so I am a bit out of the loop.

[Stephen Fry]
Well, Alan, the simple fact of the matter is we just don't know.

it may be 6, it could be 5,10, or even 12.

Based on what we know at the moment, we just can't tell.

[/Stephen Fry]


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Baaa!

Fat Venom!

YES - aaaand the character models get updated

From Bob in the Faeit comments via Greengiant on Warseer

 Azreal13 wrote:
[Stephen Fry]
Well, Alan, the simple fact of the matter is we just don't know.

it may be 6, it could be 5,10, or even 12.

Based on what we know at the moment, we just can't tell.

[/Stephen Fry]


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Baaa!

LOL

Hope it holds 10+