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 Garion wrote:

 Dash2021 wrote:


If you can take multiple Shadowseers (no assumptions till codex in hand), then this is probably still possible. Both mirror and laugh could do some serious work, using the archon w/armor of misery and WWP to nuke your target. Not as good or reliable as psychic shriek, but can still wipe out a squad of your choosing or instantly grant you Slay the Warlord (with mirror).

You can take multiple SS. In WD they suggest to take 3 SS and 3DJ and a Solitaire to fill the 7 elite slots of the masque detactment

Was referring to the very real possibility that Shadowseers would only be able to join Harlequin troops. Would make this idea a bit harder to pull off.

*Edit* Just caught up to the codex leak so they are, thankfully, IC's. Very easily could have gone the same route as warlocks (which was what I was referencing earlier), but now a non issue.

Do we know how many models the Starweaver can hold?

 dan2026 wrote:
Do we know how many models the Starweaver can hold?

6

The Starweaver can hold 6 models, so a basic Troupe and an IC.

 dan2026 wrote:
Do we know how many models the Starweaver can hold?

Transport capacity is 6 models

As the others have said, it's six models.

Cool thanks.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I like the new jetbike vehicle, but not the price.

I never understood why people complain about prices. GW's site isn't the only place to buy GW models.

 ae1989 wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I like the new jetbike vehicle, but not the price.

I never understood why people complain about prices. GW's site isn't the only place to buy GW models.

This is true, but some of the prices are so inflated now that even with discount, they still don't offer that much value. To be fair, the Troupe box does seem to be worth the money, and so do the Jetbikes once you add discount, but I can't see the value in the Skimmer. The character clampacks are certainly too expensive for my tastes; I have a rule that I'll never pay more than £10 for a single infantry model, no matter how good, so even with discount (typically 20%) they are still too much for me.

Luckily, there seem to be enough parts in the Troupe box that with some spare legs and some GS I can easily make a Death Jester and Solitaire, and I have converted a Shadowseer from an old Elf Mage.

 ae1989 wrote:
I never understood why people complain about prices. GW's site isn't the only place to buy GW models.

I would suspect that people complain about the prices because they don't like the prices.


That's just a wild stab in the dark, though.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Haywire Cannon?

Against vehicles you will only be getting 1 hit and then relying on a lucky roll on the table.
I guess a squadron of Voidweavers could do some serious damage.

3 of the jetbikes coming on from reserve will cause a lot of trouble for vehicles when combined with starweavers. the potential for allied scourges can make some very tough vehicle lists look like theyre made of paper.

 Paradigm wrote:

 ae1989 wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I like the new jetbike vehicle, but not the price.

I never understood why people complain about prices. GW's site isn't the only place to buy GW models.

This is true, but some of the prices are so inflated now that even with discount, they still don't offer that much value. To be fair, the Troupe box does seem to be worth the money, and so do the Jetbikes once you add discount, but I can't see the value in the Skimmer. The character clampacks are certainly too expensive for my tastes; I have a rule that I'll never pay more than £10 for a single infantry model, no matter how good, so even with discount (typically 20%) they are still too much for me.

Luckily, there seem to be enough parts in the Troupe box that with some spare legs and some GS I can easily make a Death Jester and Solitaire, and I have converted a Shadowseer from an old Elf Mage.

I still have some unpainted metal Death Jesters from the original (80s) Harlequin release that I can paint up now

The Troupe box is great value -- you get 6 great models for $40 with enough bits to make a 7th with Eldar/Dark Eldar bits. The jetbikes are $20 each, which are a little pricey, but they are pretty big jetbikes. Starweaver and Voidweaver at $41 are pretty much par for the course for a model kit of that size right now. It's not incredible value or anything, but it's certainly not bad.

Also, remember, there will probably be a box set in a couple of weeks with a bunch of different Harlequins for a discount (a la Sanguinary Strike Force or Tomb Awakened). The little bit of brightness in a Harlequin box would be that so far as I can see, all the models are playable (which is good, seeing as there aren't a ton lol).

Talys wrote:
Also, remember, there will probably be a box set in a couple of weeks with a bunch of different Harlequins for a discount (a la Sanguinary Strike Force or Tomb Awakened). The little bit of brightness in a Harlequin box would be that so far as I can see, all the models are playable (which is good, seeing as there aren't a ton lol).

I would love that but I am skeptical. Those boxes were moving mostly old models at a discount. This would be the first with only new models at a retail discount

For those that have seen the leaks has there been any mention of whether the codex has a "Decurion" like detachment? Like one made up of formations

 Eldarain wrote:

Talys wrote:
Also, remember, there will probably be a box set in a couple of weeks with a bunch of different Harlequins for a discount (a la Sanguinary Strike Force or Tomb Awakened). The little bit of brightness in a Harlequin box would be that so far as I can see, all the models are playable (which is good, seeing as there aren't a ton lol).

I would love that but I am skeptical. Those boxes were moving mostly old models at a discount. This would be the first with only new models at a retail discount

Sanguinary Strike Company came with Librarian and BA Assault Terminators (both brand new) and Furioso and Stormraven (both good models).

Tomb Awakened came with Lychguard, Immortals, Stalker, Wraiths, and an Anni Barge -- these aren't "new" models, but Necrons only got 1 new model, and all the models are both useful and from the most recent wave.

So... I will hold out hope

Anyone know why on the site it says US will get this March 7th where everywhere else gets it feb 21?

Cruelcodex wrote:
Anyone know why on the site it says US will get this March 7th where everywhere else gets it feb 21?

Dock workers strike.

That's still going on!?

 Eldarain wrote:

Talys wrote:
Also, remember, there will probably be a box set in a couple of weeks with a bunch of different Harlequins for a discount (a la Sanguinary Strike Force or Tomb Awakened). The little bit of brightness in a Harlequin box would be that so far as I can see, all the models are playable (which is good, seeing as there aren't a ton lol).

I would love that but I am skeptical. Those boxes were moving mostly old models at a discount. This would be the first with only new models at a retail discount

the old range is still nice enough (though not as 80s-tastic as the originals, but with some light greenstuff work they can get close)

Good codex, but still rather clunky to try to add small Harlequin forces as allies. I would love to run just a min sized troupe with a HQ and transport alongside with my DE or GK, but I still can't. I have to run a troupe with a DJ and SS attached (who can't leave), which makes them too big to fit in a starweaver.

They could have solved all these problems by adding a single HQ choice, to let players run them as a CAD or Allied detachment, but no.

It is someone's attempt at 'forcing' you to buy more if you want to field 'regular' Harlequins.

Or, of course, none!

If these leaks are true, it makes me super glad I'm a harlequin player. And we thought craftworld eldar had alot of tricknology.


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If these leaks are true, it makes me super glad I'm a harlequin player. And we thought craftworld eldar had alot of tricknology.

Have you been a...Harlequin player for a long time now?

Lol. I have 30 rt quins and 30 quin jet bikes, 3 lords and a knight (all diamonds and stripes)

It's official this is now Codex: Trolls (you mad bro?)

I freaking love those warlord traits

I really like quite a few parts of this. I'm not sure as a whole it'll work but I do want to build out a full detachment of Harlequins. It's about 2500pts or so to max out everything which looks like:

36 Harlequins
3 Star Weavers
3 Void Weavers
12 Sky Weavers
1 Solitaire
3 Death Jester
3 Shadow Weavers

Seems super small for 2500pts but I think they'll fit in decently in small detachments.

Which is probably good. Since adding this many dudes that can pass hit-n-run to elder and dark elder units is crazy. Adding Shadowseers to units like Beastpacks without some required extra units would be insane.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Good codex, but still rather clunky to try to add small Harlequin forces as allies. I would love to run just a min sized troupe with a HQ and transport alongside with my DE or GK, but I still can't. I have to run a troupe with a DJ and SS attached (who can't leave), which makes them too big to fit in a starweaver.

They could have solved all these problems by adding a single HQ choice, to let players run them as a CAD or Allied detachment, but no.

Why are we all still angry about this?

So it seems that Harlequins have their own unique Force Org chart that they have to follow (or may even have a number of them). A lot of people are sulking that this means they can never be used in Battleforged lists...

Actually, that's not right. They can. There is a precedent for forces existing that have their own 'unique' Force Org chart and are often used as allies for other forces. Thing is, they're mostly Imperial. Now we have an Eldar one.

Imperial Knights
Inquisition
Legion of the Damned

Did you forget about them?

I wouldn't be surprised if the one specific detachment chart we've seen turns out to be their 'alternative' chart and if there's rules for allying with them in the Codex that present something different.

After all, the rules for allying with Inquisition are different from their base chart....

Warhams-77 wrote:
Via ZeroNoRyouki on Warseer from /tg

More info from tg:

- allies confirmed

I don't get this. Allies Matrix or less restrictive formations and detachments for allies?

4) "Cegorach's jest"
1 Troupe, 1 unit of Skyweavers, 1 unit of Voidweavers

Restrictions:none

Special rules:
- pressing Crescendo (from the beginning of turn 2, all units in this formation with the Fleet special rule can Run and Charge in the same turn)


Only one unit in that formation can even Run....