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**Desubot**

SharkoutofWata wrote:
Anybody have word on the Formations we're going to be required to pick from? These options are WAY too much like Harlequins for me to be comfortable with now that the 'oh shiny new toy!' stage has worn off. I sincerely doubt we will have a CAD option and the base Detachment will be way too many models to be usable or affordable (points wise for the most part) to those of us that just want a small force. I would love to include these models with my Eldar Ranger list as anti-vehicle and more snipers, but just like Harlequins and my Corsair force, I'm worried that I would have to spend 700+pts to get the two units I actually want.

Edit: Wordz is herrrd...

I dunno harlies have some pretty small model count formations like one that only needs 3

But without the book i have no clue.

i still cant wait to see what that special rules the infantry has are.

**Crimson**

I really hope that the Skitarii kit comes with more than one of each special weapon. None of the pictures show squads with multiples of same weapon though, so that makes me worried.

**Desubot**

Crimson wrote:
I really hope that the Skitarii kit comes with more than one of each special weapon. None of the pictures show squads with multiples of same weapon though, so that makes me worried.

Woh boy yeah i think you are right. i though i saw two plasma in that vanguard image but it might be a arc rifle :/

Conversion station ahoy!

**ClockworkZion**

Desubot wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I really hope that the Skitarii kit comes with more than one of each special weapon. None of the pictures show squads with multiples of same weapon though, so that makes me worried.

Woh boy yeah i think you are right. i though i saw two plasma in that vanguard image but it might be a arc rifle :/

Conversion station ahoy!

Vanguard have Plasma. The Arc Rifle has the boxy end instead.

**H.B.M.C.**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Rangers have Plasma. The Arc Rifle has the boxy end instead.

And the fact that they painted them the same way doesn't make that at all confusing with a quick glance.

**Kanluwen**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Desubot wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I really hope that the Skitarii kit comes with more than one of each special weapon. None of the pictures show squads with multiples of same weapon though, so that makes me worried.

Woh boy yeah i think you are right. i though i saw two plasma in that vanguard image but it might be a arc rifle :/

Conversion station ahoy!

Rangers have Plasma. The Arc Rifle has the boxy end instead.

Spoiler:

Rangers in the unit entry page have what is likely the Arc Rifle and what is definitely the Transauranic Arquebus.
The Vanguard have the Plasma Caliver and the Arc Rifle.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Rangers have Plasma. The Arc Rifle has the boxy end instead.

And the fact that they painted them the same way doesn't make that at all confusing with a quick glance.

Truth.

Plasma for me will be purple! PURPLE FOR PLASMA!

**ClockworkZion**

Old rumor from Natfka:

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
The new faction is in fact Ad Mech, Skitarii. As far as I know this is still a ways out, but who knows. There is only troops and elites, with vehicles. Mostly foot soldiers, guys with spider legs, and a couple tank/spider hybrids.

There is also a Dragoon which looks to be a dual kit with a rider on top of a bipedal machine. It has legs similar to the IG sentinels, but has a grafted human in the center of the machine. I am not as fluent in the background with the skitarii as I would like to comment much more.

That is from Dec. I think that gives us an idea of what is to come.

**Kanluwen**

Spiderdude, spiderdude, does whatever a spiderdude does...

**nudibranch**

Huh, now I'm not big into the rules, but that sniper is reaaally strange. Like, armourbane is what is effectively a str4 weapon? And what is the point of that crazy range, especially on troops with relentless and thus high mobility? It looks a lot like there's some rules missing or something... It's weird.

**Kanluwen**

nudibranch wrote:
Huh, now I'm not big into the rules, but that sniper is reaaally strange. Like, armourbane is what is effectively a str4 weapon? And what is the point of that crazy range, especially on troops with relentless and thus high mobility? It looks a lot like there's some rules missing or something... It's weird.

Likely it will have something to do with these "Doctrina Imperatives".

**nedTCM**

Beat me to that Kanluwen.

Imagine if it works something like IG orders. Everyone in the army gets an ability each turn. It could be insane.

**buddha**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Old rumor from Natfka:

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
The new faction is in fact Ad Mech, Skitarii. As far as I know this is still a ways out, but who knows. There is only troops and elites, with vehicles. Mostly foot soldiers, guys with spider legs, and a couple tank/spider hybrids.

There is also a Dragoon which looks to be a dual kit with a rider on top of a bipedal machine. It has legs similar to the IG sentinels, but has a grafted human in the center of the machine. I am not as fluent in the background with the skitarii as I would like to comment much more.

That is from Dec. I think that gives us an idea of what is to come.

Interesting, we might not get an HQ after all like the harlequin release.

**ClockworkZion**

nedTCM wrote:
Beat me to that Kanluwen.

Imagine if it works something like IG orders. Everyone in the army gets an ability each turn. It could be insane.

Since the LD bonus only kicks in after they're under the effect of the Imperative my money is it's not Orders.

**sonofruss**

Well it looks like my titans will get some back up.

I am going to be so broke.

I should have taken my camera instead of my Phone

**rollawaythestone**

My guess is Instinctive Behavior - Skitarii version.

**aka_mythos**

Melcavuk wrote:Newer kit, and looks better than sentinels. Its to be expected.

Plus it looks a bit bigger too. Legs look a bit longer. It's on a larger base. With all those techie bits there probably more layers of parts to build out the hull. I'm hoping its a set of multiple walkers but history tells us GW will do otherwise.

WrentheFaceless wrote:Well they said the walker is about as tall as a Knight, sentinels are no where near that size

Unless those riders are larger than normal humans it doesn't seem likely to be even close to Knight sized. Maybe close to Dreadknight.

**ClockworkZion**

Just saw next week's release stuff from my FLGS:

Vanguard/Rangers box of 10 $49 USD
Dragoon/Ironstrider $39 USD

And the paints are confirmed.

I can live with that with how much is going on in the models and the size of them.

I do hope the vehicle box is in multiples but there was no note on that so likely box of 1.

**nedTCM**

ClockworkZion wrote:
nedTCM wrote:
Beat me to that Kanluwen.

Imagine if it works something like IG orders. Everyone in the army gets an ability each turn. It could be insane.

Since the LD bonus only kicks in after they're under the effect of the Imperative my money is it's not Orders.

Definatly not orders, but it could be some like it.

It could just as easily go the opposite way and be a negative. Hopefully someone leaks it soon.

**Kanluwen**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Just saw next week's release stuff from my FLGS:

Vanguard/Rangers box of 10 $49 USD
Dragoon/Ironstrider $39 USD

And the paints are confirmed.

I can live with that with how much is going on in the models and the size of them.

I do hope the vehicle box is in multiples but there was no note on that so likely box of 1.

Are you sure you didn't mix up which was which, because that is an exact opposite of what the prices should be.

**JHall**

The correct prices are $39 for 10 Skitarri and $49 for one Strider.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Lockark wrote:
If it's $50 USD for one of thow 45 point modles, I'd hate to see what they are going to be in CAD.....

I was hopeing these were going to be around $36 CAD a pop like the sentinels. Unless it turns out it's 2 of thows walkers per box, i'm not sure if I would ever consider them in a army personally.....

A dreadnought is 55$ in Canada. I can't imagine...err, hope they won't actually charge more for a unit that is worth, roughly, half the points. I know it has more to do with sprue counts, but come on, now... a dread!

**ClockworkZion**

Kanluwen wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Just saw next week's release stuff from my FLGS:

Vanguard/Rangers box of 10 $49 USD
Dragoon/Ironstrider $39 USD

And the paints are confirmed.

I can live with that with how much is going on in the models and the size of them.

I do hope the vehicle box is in multiples but there was no note on that so likely box of 1.

Are you sure you didn't mix up which was which, because that is an exact opposite of what the prices should be.

Those where the prices he had recorded from his rep. It is possible his rep screwed up though.

Honestly I would rather he walker be the cheaper one though so it'd be more reasonable to get more of them to put into units.

**H.B.M.C.**

The walker seems absurdly priced (and packaged) given its relative weakness, low point cost and squad size.

**ClockworkZion**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
The walker seems absurdly priced (and packaged) given its relative weakness, low point cost and squad size.

Quite possible. I think parts count might change my mind about it.

**Yodhrin**

MaCa wrote:
Store tells me its 10 troops per box and 1 walker per box.

Welp, five finger-trap discount it is then, no chance in hell I'm paying approx £150 for a single max sized unit. That's lunacy even for GW - Dreads, yeah it's a pain to pay that much but unless you're running some mad Dreadspam list you only need one or two, with these guys you'll need at least three. Nuts.

**Kanluwen**

Maybe the walkers will get a splash release of a triple boxed set next week or later?

**Yodhrin**

Kanluwen wrote:
Maybe the walkers will get a splash release of a triple boxed set next week or later?

Is that triple box going to cost £50 or less? Because £100 for a full unit is still ridiculous, but it's the kind of ridiculous I can successfully fool myself is actually perfectly rational, since this is AdMech. If such a box were just a couple of quid less than buying them individually the core issue remains; a unit will be too expensive.

**H.B.M.C.**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Quite possible. I think parts count might change my mind about it.

Then it's the same problem with the 5-for-the-price-of-10 multi-kit boxes. Pricing them like 10 'cause you can build two different unit types doesn't make sense. You can still only build 5 minis in the end.

**Kanluwen**

Yodhrin wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Maybe the walkers will get a splash release of a triple boxed set next week or later?

Is that triple box going to cost £50 or less? Because £100 for a full unit is still ridiculous, but it's the kind of ridiculous I can successfully fool myself is actually perfectly rational, since this is AdMech. If such a box were just a couple of quid less than buying them individually the core issue remains; a unit will be too expensive.

I can't quote you the exact prices in GBP off the top of my head, but I can tell you that the triple box for Eldar War Walkers is a freaking sweet deal.

It's 3 War Walkers for $75 USD, when the model is normally $30--so saves you $15+ right off the bat(with tax figured in).

**streetsamurai**

there is a huge problem with the pricing of large, but inexpensive point wise, models like the dragoon and the ork mek gunz. While when you look at the model in itself, the price is not too bad, considering how many you will need to have a decent size unit, the cost become quickly ridiculous.

As said by others, they really should bundle a few of them together at a lower unitary price, and everyone would be happy (well, no, but at least, less unhappy).