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It'd be cool if they did an Ad Mech Upgrade kit for the Chimera

A selection of zappy guns for the main gun, the bog standard rifles for Skitarii to go where the lasguns are and various gubbinz on the pintle mount. And another zappy type thing to replace the hull mounted heavy bolter.

Atleast as a Guard player I can give them Taurox Primes (if they are Battle Brothers with Guard, but they should be, right?).

They really should get their own transports though. So much potential for cool vehicles! I would personally love to se a walker transport with the Dunestrider rule, would be awesome!

Goresaw wrote:
I keep looking at the release and wondering...

where are the transports?

The vanguard skittari cry out for something to get them closer so they can use their short range carbines. Transports are needed in malestrom missions. Transports are needed to protect these really squishy T3 dudes.

You'd think they'd at least get to take Chimeras and rhinos or something. I mean they work for the guys who frick'in build them.

And no, I don't think they will get transports when the full book is released. The leaked rules don't contain mention of a transport, unlike the Harli's last time.

It might be that we're not getting transports, but the walkers are reputedly getting something called the "Enamatus Force Field".

It could be something like the Morkanaut's force field.

Weak, partly fleshy things get to hang on the outside.

Using a machine to protect the chaff. What sort of tech-heretics are you?

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It'd be cool if they did an Ad Mech Upgrade kit for the Chimera

A selection of zappy guns for the main gun, the bog standard rifles for Skitarii to go where the lasguns are and various gubbinz on the pintle mount. And another zappy type thing to replace the hull mounted heavy bolter.

And some sort of salvage build for the sentinel.

I'm no fan of this new stuff, but if I were buying it, or thinking of buying it, I would be asking: where are the big guns?

The Adeptus Mechanicus don't strike me as the kind of faction to skulk around behind enemy lines, and their background says they are the most technologically advanced group in the Imperium.

Nah, they'd roll up with the biggest tank in town and say suck on this Chaos!

People will say that this is just the first wave, which is true

BUT

if you were a business releasing something new, wouldn't you want to make the best impression by releasing something worth looking at?

GW love big kits. It seems strange why they didn't make their first release for the Martians a big kit...

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'm no fan of this new stuff, but if I were buying it, or thinking of buying it, I would be asking: where are the big guns?

The Adeptus Mechanicus don't strike me as the kind of faction to skulk around behind enemy lines, and their background says they are the most technologically advanced group in the Imperium.

Nah, they'd roll up with the biggest tank in town and say suck on this Chaos!

People will say that this is just the first wave, which is true

BUT

if you were a business releasing something new, wouldn't you want to make the best impression by releasing something worth looking at?

GW love big kits. It seems strange why they didn't make their first release for the Martians a big kit...

Good God-Emperor above, I have to thank them for NOT doing that. I'm already fearing how much I'm gonna spend on infantry, ffs. Those Rangers and Cyborg Ninjas and Codex are already gonna be a nice hit, nevermind the Onager!

I don't really wanna know how much spidy-tank is gonna cost

What is the Onager? I think I missed that.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What is the Onager? I think I missed that.

The thing in the first image that leaked, kinda looks like this...

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What is the Onager? I think I missed that.

It's on the previous page.

 Redemption wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What is the Onager? I think I missed that.

It's on the previous page.

Oh, you mean the Not-Defiler?

Yes, the one that says Onager Dunecrawler next to it.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'm no fan of this new stuff, but if I were buying it, or thinking of buying it, I would be asking: where are the big guns?

The Adeptus Mechanicus don't strike me as the kind of faction to skulk around behind enemy lines, and their background says they are the most technologically advanced group in the Imperium.

Nah, they'd roll up with the biggest tank in town and say suck on this Chaos!

People will say that this is just the first wave, which is true

BUT

if you were a business releasing something new, wouldn't you want to make the best impression by releasing something worth looking at?

GW love big kits. It seems strange why they didn't make their first release for the Martians a big kit...

I’m a little out of date on the modern fluff, but IIRC the Skitarri were always the support troops for things like titans. So while they might not get a faction specific tank, they go to war as part of a larger, full imperium force. But as a sub-faction, are predominately infantry and light support.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'm no fan of this new stuff, but if I were buying it, or thinking of buying it, I would be asking: where are the big guns?

The Adeptus Mechanicus don't strike me as the kind of faction to skulk around behind enemy lines, and their background says they are the most technologically advanced group in the Imperium.

Nah, they'd roll up with the biggest tank in town and say suck on this Chaos!

People will say that this is just the first wave, which is true

BUT

if you were a business releasing something new, wouldn't you want to make the best impression by releasing something worth looking at?

GW love big kits. It seems strange why they didn't make their first release for the Martians a big kit...

I’m a little out of date on the modern fluff, but IIRC the Skitarri were always the support troops for things like titans. So while they might not get a faction specific tank, they go to war as part of a larger, full imperium force. But as a sub-faction, are predominately infantry and light support.

Fair point, but as a force driven by logic, wouldn't it make sense for the Martians to turn up in the scariest tank going, as it's mere presence could win a war without a shot being fired, and thus save resources. That would be logical. Well Sun Tzu thinks that approach is logical.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'm no fan of this new stuff, but if I were buying it, or thinking of buying it, I would be asking: where are the big guns?

The Adeptus Mechanicus don't strike me as the kind of faction to skulk around behind enemy lines, and their background says they are the most technologically advanced group in the Imperium.

Nah, they'd roll up with the biggest tank in town and say suck on this Chaos!

People will say that this is just the first wave, which is true

BUT

if you were a business releasing something new, wouldn't you want to make the best impression by releasing something worth looking at?

GW love big kits. It seems strange why they didn't make their first release for the Martians a big kit...

I’m a little out of date on the modern fluff, but IIRC the Skitarri were always the support troops for things like titans. So while they might not get a faction specific tank, they go to war as part of a larger, full imperium force. But as a sub-faction, are predominately infantry and light support.

Fair point, but as a force driven by logic, wouldn't it make sense for the Martians to turn up in the scariest tank going, as it's mere presence could win a war without a shot being fired, and thus save resources. That would be logical. Well Sun Tzu thinks that approach is logical.

If that holy war engine gets scratched though, the Archmagos will blow a fuse.

Skitarii =/= Adeptus Mechanicus though. They're just a branch of them. So any big tanks and guns will come with the AdMech book, if they're coming. Also, most technologically advanced for the Imperium means nothing next to like Eldar and Necron tech. I doubt they'd be massively scared of much the Imperium brings, save Titans (even then Tau fliers are made for Titan killing iirc).


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Skitarii =/= Adeptus Mechanicus though. They're just a branch of them. So any big tanks and guns will come with the AdMech book, if they're coming. Also, most technologically advanced for the Imperium means nothing next to like Eldar and Necron tech. I doubt they'd be massively scared of much the Imperium brings, save Titans (even then Tau fliers are made for Titan killing iirc).

Oh, the "of Mars" series! There's a some sweet Skitarii action in it too (well, the first 2 books, I'm still waiting for the paperback to be released) and I remember they used Chimeras for Skitarii transport so I'm hoping for some fluff-y stuff like that with this Codex.

The Mechanicus leader (I don't remember the name of that kind of Magos) specialised for combat even rode the chimeras just to be awesome . Ok, it wasn't for that, I just felt it was

 Medium of Death wrote:

Jes Goodwin must have been heavily involved with this release.

I am guessing Dave Thomas as well. His previous work include Militarum Tempestus Scions and Vostroyans and he was the lead designer on latest range of Necrons.

It's a pity that GW doesn't credit their sculptors anymore. Or anyone else, for that matter.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Oh, the "of Mars" series! There's a some sweet Skitarii action in it too (well, the first 2 books, I'm still waiting for the paperback to be released) and I remember they used Chimeras for Skitarii transport so I'm hoping for some fluff-y stuff like that with this Codex.

The Mechanicus leader (I don't remember the name of that kind of Magos) specialised for combat even rode the chimeras just to be awesome . Ok, it wasn't for that, I just felt it was

It was Rhino's they used. Their leader Magos Dahan, "I am Dahan, Secutor of the Skitarii Guilds aboard the Speranza", used an "open-topped variant of the Rhino chassis with a quad-mounted battery of heavy bolters fitted to its glacis. Known as an Iron Fist, it had been developed from a scrap of STC data uncovered on forge world Porphetus prior to its loss to the bio-horrors of the Great Devourer. It had yet to achieve full Mechanicus ratification, but Dahan liked its blunt profile and the single-mindedness of its purpose enough to employ it regardless of its unofficial status".

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Oh, the "of Mars" series! There's a some sweet Skitarii action in it too (well, the first 2 books, I'm still waiting for the paperback to be released) and I remember they used Chimeras for Skitarii transport so I'm hoping for some fluff-y stuff like that with this Codex.

The Mechanicus leader (I don't remember the name of that kind of Magos) specialised for combat even rode the chimeras just to be awesome . Ok, it wasn't for that, I just felt it was

That was Secutor Dahan, and he actually rode in an open-topped Rhino with 4 heavy Bolters strapped on the top, literally just to get close enough to go General Grievous on them with what is essentially the Taserstaff described here. He was a goddamn badass.

Actually, like all the Magi in that book were pretty awesome. Even Kotov had an integrated AUTOCANNON in his arm, and the ability to overclock to the point that he could accurately aim individual shells while emptying his ammo supply in a few seconds. I wanna field HIM as an HQ!

I know we don't have full rules yet, but so far I'm not impressed. The army doesn't have a 'feel' yet. Like the cron codex was all about super tough phalanxes of robots marching up the field. Harliquins are super sneaky and reliant on crazy powers and abilities.

I'm not getting any vibe here. You'd think this book would be about insane technology and wild effects. Almost like a space skaven army. Instead all I see is very humdrum.

Hopefully the doctrine imperiallis rule gives them much needed flavor. Otherwise all I see are slightly tougher IG vet squads

 ImAGeek wrote:
Skitarii =/= Adeptus Mechanicus though. They're just a branch of them. So any big tanks and guns will come with the AdMech book, if they're coming. Also, most technologically advanced for the Imperium means nothing next to like Eldar and Necron tech. I doubt they'd be massively scared of much the Imperium brings, save Titans (even then Tau fliers are made for Titan killing iirc).

True necron and eldar tech are far ahead of anything humanity every got up to.

Human archotech is pretty advanced though, certainly way ahead of tau. So while run of the mill IG, SM, and Admech stuff probably wouldn't scare much of anyone unless it was massive in size, they do have a few things that can surprise.

 aka_mythos wrote:
All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest [u]

Oooooo yeah. Maybe with the main AdMech book. They definitely have the potential for some great minis.

 Exergy wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Skitarii =/= Adeptus Mechanicus though. They're just a branch of them. So any big tanks and guns will come with the AdMech book, if they're coming. Also, most technologically advanced for the Imperium means nothing next to like Eldar and Necron tech. I doubt they'd be massively scared of much the Imperium brings, save Titans (even then Tau fliers are made for Titan killing iirc).

True necron and eldar tech are far ahead of anything humanity every got up to.

Human archotech is pretty advanced though, certainly way ahead of tau. So while run of the mill IG, SM, and Admech stuff probably wouldn't scare much of anyone unless it was massive in size, they do have a few things that can surprise.

I didn't neccesarily mean Tau were more advanced, just that they have ways to deal with even Titans. I mean, AdMech are fairly well advanced, I just don't think them having one big tank would win any battles the way Do_I_Not_Like_That was suggesting. And even if it would, isn't that what Titans are for?

 gorgon wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest [u]

Oooooo yeah. Maybe with the main AdMech book. They definitely have the potential for some great minis.

Do people think that the next codex for am is close or will we wait till later this year / next year?

migooo wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest [u]

Oooooo yeah. Maybe with the main AdMech book. They definitely have the potential for some great minis.

Do people think that the next codex for am is close or will we wait till later this year / next year?

I think people are comparing this release to the Imperial Guard release, where the Storm trooper mini-dex was released first followed by the full Imperial Guard codex. Honestly? We don't know yet.


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Hell, I should add that the whole two book thing isn't confirmed either. This might be all we're getting.

nudibranch wrote:

migooo wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest [u]

Oooooo yeah. Maybe with the main AdMech book. They definitely have the potential for some great minis.

Do people think that the next codex for am is close or will we wait till later this year / next year?

I think people are comparing this release to the Imperial Guard release, where the Storm trooper mini-dex was released first followed by the full Imperial Guard codex. Honestly? We don't know yet.


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Hell, I should add that the whole two book thing isn't confirmed either. This might be all we're getting.

Given the track record, something being posted on Lords of Wargaming is nearly all but confirmed. Not to mention that the Codex: Skitarii models are under the Adeptus Mechanicus section of the webstore, which is pretty telling.

Requizen wrote:

nudibranch wrote:

migooo wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest [u]

Oooooo yeah. Maybe with the main AdMech book. They definitely have the potential for some great minis.

Do people think that the next codex for am is close or will we wait till later this year / next year?

I think people are comparing this release to the Imperial Guard release, where the Storm trooper mini-dex was released first followed by the full Imperial Guard codex. Honestly? We don't know yet.


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Hell, I should add that the whole two book thing isn't confirmed either. This might be all we're getting.

Given the track record, something being posted on Lords of Wargaming is nearly all but confirmed. Not to mention that the Codex: Skitarii models are under the Adeptus Mechanicus section of the webstore, which is pretty telling.

while i have some faith in LoW gaming Sometimes i feel these leak people are just proxies

anyway wouldn't a release like this require like 6 weeks ( and according to what I hear fantasy 9th is may)

I think a box game ie 9th would quickly be followed by books?, so needing all of may?, and if we have the final release for AM / skitari on the 18th?

as i understand that leaves the 26th for a filler release? ala deamonkin?

Am I the only dyed-in-the-wool Slave to Darkness who has decided to get to that imagined Dark Mechanicum project sooner rather than later in light of this release?

Do we have any conjecture/info on the projected price of the walker? I have a sinking feeling that it's going to be obscene, like the insane price for the cool chicken walker...

-C6

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the Onager doesn't really look like its built to carry troops? I really hope these guys have a transport.