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BrianDavion wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
I don't know why, but it bothers me not having a HQ. I love having an awesome HQ leading the army.

I do too, but given the way Skitarii was supposed to work I can get behind a lack of a HQ for this army, so long as it's not a sign of things to come. some armies make sense with an HQ (space Marines for example) but some I think almost make more sense WITHOUT a dedicates HQ

I'm not sure how it applies here even in the fluff Alpha Primes are mentioned leading the Skitari . And I also think that no Magos would allow his toys to go un- monitored ( even if they are watching from above or something.)

Ill teach you to mess with my machine!!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.

It's the opposite for me. I really like that army has some unique special rules. Help to differenciate them

This may have been answered already but I didn't see it.

How many of each special weapon is included in the Rangers / Vanguard box?

Super Newb wrote:
This may have been answered already but I didn't see it.

How many of each special weapon is included in the Rangers / Vanguard box?

1 of each

GW has sprue pictures already

have fun

 Desubot wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
This may have been answered already but I didn't see it.

How many of each special weapon is included in the Rangers / Vanguard box?

1 of each

GW has sprue pictures already

have fun

Either get 3 boxes, or wait for bits stores to have the popular special weapons up for plenty of money

Such is the way of things.

Dupe post

 streetsamurai wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.

It's the opposite for me. I really like that army has some unique special rules. Help to differenciate them

How does it differentiate them if they're the same?

Taser = Tesla

Neural Trauma = Poison (4+)

Transonic = Rending + AP2 on all attacks after the first round

drbored wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
This may have been answered already but I didn't see it.

How many of each special weapon is included in the Rangers / Vanguard box?

1 of each

GW has sprue pictures already

have fun

Either get 3 boxes, or wait for bits stores to have the popular special weapons up for plenty of money

Such is the way of things.

Trade with other ad mech players

I intend on getting at least 1 unit of arc rifles and at least one unit with plasma. not sure what else i would trade around

 Desubot wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
This may have been answered already but I didn't see it.

How many of each special weapon is included in the Rangers / Vanguard box?

1 of each

GW has sprue pictures already

have fun

Either get 3 boxes, or wait for bits stores to have the popular special weapons up for plenty of money

Such is the way of things.

Trade with other ad mech players

I intend on getting at least 1 unit of arc rifles and at least one unit with plasma. not sure what else i would trade around

True. I'm really torn on the Plasma.. I'm just not seeing the return on it. As soon as your opponent realizes what you have, that squad is going to disappear off the table. With no transport and a relatively short range, you're going to need to really be careful with that squad, and there's still the chance they'll roll lots of Gets Hot and kill themselves, for 30 points per gun.

The arc rifles are a no-brainer.

That just leaves the Arquebus, which I personally like, since it gives you some chances at Precision Shots, and you can leave them with Rangers at full range and snipe at light transports and special weapon squads, but even then...

I"m almost thinking that Vanguard might be best just bare or with Arc Rifles...

drbored wrote:

True. I'm really torn on the Plasma.. I'm just not seeing the return on it. As soon as your opponent realizes what you have, that squad is going to disappear off the table. With no transport and a relatively short range, you're going to need to really be careful with that squad, and there's still the chance they'll roll lots of Gets Hot and kill themselves, for 30 points per gun.

Yeah, the plasma vanguard option is expensive. The best use I can think of for it now is sticking a 5 man squad in a pod for a cheap 6 shot plasma alpha strike. With the doctrine making them BS7 they are a lot less likely to die from gets hot, but it can still happen.

drbored wrote:

Either get 3 boxes, or wait for bits stores to have the popular special weapons up for plenty of money

Such is the way of things.

Or do the thing gamers have been doing since gaming was a thing:

"These guys with special weapons all have X."

drbored wrote:


True. I'm really torn on the Plasma.. I'm just not seeing the return on it. As soon as your opponent realizes what you have, that squad is going to disappear off the table. With no transport and a relatively short range, you're going to need to really be careful with that squad, and there's still the chance they'll roll lots of Gets Hot and kill themselves, for 30 points per gun.

The arc rifles are a no-brainer.

That just leaves the Arquebus, which I personally like, since it gives you some chances at Precision Shots, and you can leave them with Rangers at full range and snipe at light transports and special weapon squads, but even then...

I"m almost thinking that Vanguard might be best just bare or with Arc Rifles...

Well the advantage of being in the imperium gives you plenty of transport access.
Im feeling the urge to put the them in a vanilla raven or vendetta/valks (as i dont have BA codex for rent a pods :/ (personal thing about not using things from books i dont have))

i may end up just going the vendetta way and chucking in a unit of 5 with double plasma. if 6 plasma shots at bs high doesn't kill whatever im aiming at, then im probably already having problems.

This set up would leave for some nice MSU action. and with 2 boxes will make me a double plasma, double arc, and two single sniper units. just chuck the snipers back somewhere on an objective and watch the magic.

Has anyone already noticed that on the front page of GW's site, if you scroll down to the bundles, the Ironstrider Web Bundle is called "Disregard Mercy, Acquire Knowledge"?

GW's got meme's on their website now!

 Exergy wrote:

 Clang wrote:
My orks are totally looting one of those DuneCrawlers

I'm going the other way and making, going to have my Admech all ramshackle and each walker unique. One DuneCrawler Stock, one DuneCrawler mixed with KillaKan/Defdread bits, and another DuneCrawlerbits + Defiler bits for a squadron of 3.

For people who like the rules more than the models (or also love the models but not their prices), this makes a lot of sense, pushing the diesel-punk side of things more than the steam-punk side. Fluff-wise, it could represent an AdMech force who've been cut off from their supply lines and so have been acquiring and improving any local tech they can find. The only thing to avoid would be models that look too orky - unless of course your Admech have been trading with or stealing from local orks (or you want a freeboota/loota ork army who count-as AdMech). Hmm, I have enough of an old Defiler to make a decent counts-as DuneCrawler...

 Accolade wrote:
Has anyone already noticed that on the front page of GW's site, if you scroll down to the bundles, the Ironstrider Web Bundle is called "Disregard Mercy, Acquire Knowledge"?

GW's got meme's on their website now!

I can haz archeotech?

Sad to say, but these new AdMech models just aren't doing it for me. I loved the Skitarii, and I am on the fence with the walkers, but I don't like the Sicarians or the spidertanks. I'll definitely pick up three boxes of the Skitarii to use as an allied force, and as Tech Thralls in my 30K Mechanicum army.

Maybe that's why this release isn't working for me. FW already beat them to it with the Mechanicum. Perhaps, if not for the Mechanicum, I would like the AdMech more?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Sad to say, but these new AdMech models just aren't doing it for me. I loved the Skitarii, and I am on the fence with the walkers, but I don't like the Sicarians or the spidertanks. I'll definitely pick up three boxes of the Skitarii to use as an allied force, and as Tech Thralls in my 30K Mechanicum army.

Maybe that's why this release isn't working for me. FW already beat them to it with the Mechanicum. Perhaps, if not for the Mechanicum, I would like the AdMech more?

This is a problem I'm having too. FW's Mechanicum is just so glorious, the GW walkers look quite paltry by comparison. I think I like the Skitarii mainly because they don't have an exact analog in the Mechanicum line- there's servitor-esque fellows sure, but not what I would consider legitimate soldiers.

 Accolade wrote:
Has anyone already noticed that on the front page of GW's site, if you scroll down to the bundles, the Ironstrider Web Bundle is called "Disregard Mercy, Acquire Knowledge"?

GW's got meme's on their website now!

Memes?

If anyone wants to see the new sprues up close, I snapped some high res (5000x5000 px) of the front and backs of the vanguard and ironstrider sprues here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/642694.page#7721399

I absolutely love the Sicarians box coming out next week!!! USD$46 for 5 "terminator equivalents" is pretty good, too.

Faction codex is cheap. $33 USD, so I reserved one. Super duper edition is $165 for a good laugh, or if you want to be one of the 1010 I suppose.

 Talys wrote:
If anyone wants to see the new sprues up close, I snapped some high res (5000x5000 px) of the front and backs of the vanguard and ironstrider sprues here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/642694.page#7721399

Thanks, that was really helpful!

Super Newb wrote:

 Talys wrote:
If anyone wants to see the new sprues up close, I snapped some high res (5000x5000 px) of the front and backs of the vanguard and ironstrider sprues here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/642694.page#7721399

Thanks, that was really helpful!

My pleasure!! Glad it helped.

I am falling behind on all these rumors so if someone could please help me.....what is the difference between the admech and Skitari? Is this like the Astra Militarium release where they dropped the elite small army first then the AM? I am thinking the walker tanks would work well with a Knight army to give the AA it needs but not sure how to include them at this point heh.

No HQ choice?

*sigh*

I'm very pleasantly surprised. I might be including some of these in my army now because it's not so restrictive. Would do well with my Astral Claws honestly. Scout is always helpful.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No HQ choice?

*sigh*

Fingers crossed for the full codex soon and getting HQs that way?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
Picture of the Onager Dunecrawler:

Spoiler:

Does anyone else think that body shouldn't go on those legs? It looks way too big and bulky.

Looks very Russian


(could turn this into a Dust tactics tank )

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fingers crossed for the full codex soon and getting HQs that way?

Do we even know that there's another book coming?

For sure? No, we don't.

However, considering one of the most reputable sources (Lords of War) is saying we'll get an AdMech codex (In May, apparently) and the fact that the Skitarii are under the' Adeptus Mechanicus' tab and not a 'Skitarii' tab of the GW webstore points to it, I think it's safe to say it is coming.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fingers crossed for the full codex soon and getting HQs that way?

Do we even know that there's another book coming?

Yes, there are too many things pointing to it for it to be false at this point.

Take, for example, the Doctrina Imperatives released with the Skitarii. There are only six of them, all listed as being from the "Protector" discipline, meaning there are other disciplines of Doctrina Imperatives planned to come, which must be in the AdMech Codex proper.

Maybe they'll do it like a collection of mini codexes, and this one is just the first? So they can release a special collectors box with all of the books together plus a keychain for around $723?