Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k new pics p162

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**Grumblewartz**

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I wonder if people realize that the Kastelan Robots are designed to come from a time before even the Imperium itself and that's why they look so out of place in the current 40k universe. Of course they're gonna look way different compared to something built 10,000 years ago when they themselves were built 20,000 years ago.

To me that's why I like them so much. They pretty much embody the Mecanicus creed of repurposing ancient tech. Because it's so different you know they didn't build it, but they'll still happily slap guns, cogs, and Eagles on it and use it for war.

I agree. The fact that there seems to be such a divide over people who love the model and hate it with little in between is definitely evidence that they had a vision based on the fluff and accomplished it. Now, whether one likes that the model looks so different from the rest of the 40k universe is of course purely a matter of taste. I can't make up my mind over whether I love it or hate it - I will need to see one in person.

**Frozen Ocean**

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I wonder if people realize that the Kastelan Robots are designed to come from a time before even the Imperium itself and that's why they look so out of place in the current 40k universe.

Looking out of place is not the problem, looking really silly is. I shouldn't even have to say it, but of course this depends on personal preference. Still, few people are stating their dislike for the model because of how it doesn't fit the aesthetic; most are stating that the model, on its own merits, looks absurd. If you put an attractive Infinity model in 40k, it would look out of place but the model would still be a good model in of itself. That isn't the issue.

**timd**

Thanks much beast! That resolves the size question. Castellax can definitely double for Kastellan. Had thought that the Kastellans might be bigger than they are. Now its just down to weapons (and magnets). Off to ebay for bits!

T

beast_gts wrote:
timd wrote:
So now that the Kastellans are out in the wild, does anyone have a pic of Kastellan andf Castellax together for a size comparison?

T

From Facebook:

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**Accolade**

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I wonder if people realize that the Kastelan Robots are designed to come from a time before even the Imperium itself and that's why they look so out of place in the current 40k universe. Of course they're gonna look way different compared to something built 10,000 years ago when they themselves were built 20,000 years ago.

To me that's why I like them so much. They pretty much embody the Mecanicus creed of repurposing ancient tech. Because it's so different you know they didn't build it, but they'll still happily slap guns, cogs, and Eagles on it and use it for war.

Maybe I don't understand, aren't the Castellax *also* built from time immemorial plus a couple of servo skulls?

**Quarterdime**

Nithoggr wrote:
Troops are the track battle Servitors. So you will need 2 units of those and the magos for just over 400 points.

Oh, man. That is GREAT NEWS for me. The servitors and the magos are my two favorite units in the 2 mechanicus books! This is great! They honestly don't need any help, one priest and his servitors are enough for me.

**Mr.Church13**

Accolade wrote:
Mr.Church13 wrote:
I wonder if people realize that the Kastelan Robots are designed to come from a time before even the Imperium itself and that's why they look so out of place in the current 40k universe. Of course they're gonna look way different compared to something built 10,000 years ago when they themselves were built 20,000 years ago.

To me that's why I like them so much. They pretty much embody the Mecanicus creed of repurposing ancient tech. Because it's so different you know they didn't build it, but they'll still happily slap guns, cogs, and Eagles on it and use it for war.

Maybe I don't understand, aren't the Castellax *also* built from time immemorial plus a couple of servo skulls?

Castellax seem to be readily produced and designed during the Great Crusade. Kastelan (for all known fluff currently) were still "forgotten" tech even 10,000 years ago. So they aren't so much made as discovered and modded out.

**Accolade**

Is there fluffy to point that out though? I'm not trying to split hairs honestly, it just seems like both robots are supposed to be the same thing. Heck, their names are both misspellings of the same term!

**Mr.Church13**

Accolade wrote:
Is there fluffy to point that out though? I'm not trying to split hairs honestly, it just seems like both robots are supposed to be the same thing. Heck, their names are both misspellings of the same term!

Not anything that states directly they're not the same robot, but they're definitely in the same design family. The WD however states that Kastelans came from a time before the imperium.

Seems we'll have to wait until the dex drops for the full story.

**MajorWesJanson**

Potentially, the Kastellan is a STC design, while the Castellax is an imitation design, like how you have "true" baneblades and "imitation" baneblades.

**Accolade**

I suppose. It still feels like both designers at FW and GW were tasked with creating retro-futuristic robots for a project, and the FW designer came up with a sketch of something both retro AND 40k in appearance, and the GW designer printed a photo of a robot from a Google search of the terms and said "done," and when pressed about it he said "it's from the past! Ohhh-oohh-oooo"

**Sidstyler**

I just think they look silly. As far as looking out of place, for me it's not so much that they look like they don't belong in 40k, it's that they don't look like they belong in the same faction. I understand the fluff behind them, I'm just saying in spite of all that it still doesn't look like an Ad Mech unit.

I dunno, maybe it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the only unit of its kind, if more Ad Mech stuff shared the same aesthetic.

**Leth**

Another thing to remember about 30k is that during that time the mechanicus was still innovating and reverse engineering.

I remember in the first horus heresy book, it blew me away when they said "We are already analyzing and reverse engineering this technology"

Just the extent of information that was lost on mars during the heresy mars is huge!! Seriously read mechanicum.....and dont think of the knights as dudes riding horses like I did when I read it.....think of it as the new knight models......it will make a lot more sense lol.

**Kosake**

Accolade wrote:
God, those Castellax really make the Kastellans look like Fisher Price toys.

Like comparing stuff from 3rd-4th with recent sculpts... The good, gritty-weathered paintjob saves it some dignity but still...

**beast_gts**

The Castellax are semi-sentient, semi-organic war machines mass produced for the Great Crusade.
Kastelans are dumb, entirely electronic tools (which need punch cards to work) from who-knows-when re-purposed for war.

**angelofvengeance**

Those Kastelans are actually growing on me a bit. I like the paintjob on that Facebook pic

**Dryaktylus**

The HH automata are usually described as having an aggressive or even vicious spirit, so I guess they were replaced (officially I guess...) by the 'safer' version/proto-type.

Btw, I just spotted the 'Corpuscarii Cult' in the organisation table in HH Extermination.

**Orock**

The robots CAN look good, you just have to heavily modify them. Posting again for examples.

**Wilson**

Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

**Gitsplitta**

I really like the gap between the collar and the heads. Very nicely done Wilson.

**notprop**

Indeed, excellent effort that man!

**Accolade**

They still just don't look that good to me. And I see these conversions ya'll are doing and think "dang, these fellows put forth some really awesome effort and sculpting, everything else they do looks fantastic."

It's these kits, the proportions are cartoon-level exaggerated like 40k were undergoing a Flanderization.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization

Them and the electropriests I feel are the duds of the AM release.

**Frozen Ocean**

Wilson wrote:
Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

Your previous image in this thread is what made me resolve to get at least one of the robots eventually. I'll still have to replace the arms and give it new feet, but the sunken head is definitely a strong start.

Has anyone else noticed how their legs look rather Eldar? The bubbled silhouette and weird hoof-feet things remind me a lot of Wraiths and War Walkers, as do the knees.

**Enigwolf**

I have my Cult Mechanicus codex in hand as well as the Tech-Priest Dominus. Already opened the Dominus and am working on it, the dang thing has so many small fiddly bits its easy to break something while removing mould lines. I left my CM codex at my FLGS, though, and won't be back there till Thursday. Do you guys want pictures of anything in the 'dex in the mean time? (Pics of the dominus to come shortly)

Frozen Ocean wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

Your previous image in this thread is what made me resolve to get at least one of the robots eventually. I'll still have to replace the arms and give it new feet, but the sunken head is definitely a strong start.

Has anyone else noticed how their legs look rather Eldar? The bubbled silhouette and weird hoof-feet things remind me a lot of Wraiths and War Walkers, as do the knees.

It reminds me of a giant space marine.

**H.B.M.C.**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Potentially, the Kastellan is a STC design, while the Castellax is an imitation design, like how you have "true" baneblades and "imitation" baneblades.

Or they're just different patterns of the same vehicle. A Mars-Pattern Russ is still a Russ, no matter how different its hull is to the more usual pattern.

**Wilson**

Enigwolf wrote:
I have my Cult Mechanicus codex in hand as well as the Tech-Priest Dominus. Already opened the Dominus and am working on it, the dang thing has so many small fiddly bits its easy to break something while removing mould lines. I left my CM codex at my FLGS, though, and won't be back there till Thursday. Do you guys want pictures of anything in the 'dex in the mean time? (Pics of the dominus to come shortly)

Frozen Ocean wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

Your previous image in this thread is what made me resolve to get at least one of the robots eventually. I'll still have to replace the arms and give it new feet, but the sunken head is definitely a strong start.

Has anyone else noticed how their legs look rather Eldar? The bubbled silhouette and weird hoof-feet things remind me a lot of Wraiths and War Walkers, as do the knees.

It reminds me of a giant space marine.

Elimination maniple and special issue wargear sil vous plait!

Pts cost of said special wargear as well please :]

**migooo**

Wilson wrote:
Enigwolf wrote:
I have my Cult Mechanicus codex in hand as well as the Tech-Priest Dominus. Already opened the Dominus and am working on it, the dang thing has so many small fiddly bits its easy to break something while removing mould lines. I left my CM codex at my FLGS, though, and won't be back there till Thursday. Do you guys want pictures of anything in the 'dex in the mean time? (Pics of the dominus to come shortly)

Frozen Ocean wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

Your previous image in this thread is what made me resolve to get at least one of the robots eventually. I'll still have to replace the arms and give it new feet, but the sunken head is definitely a strong start.

Has anyone else noticed how their legs look rather Eldar? The bubbled silhouette and weird hoof-feet things remind me a lot of Wraiths and War Walkers, as do the knees.

It reminds me of a giant space marine.

Elimination maniple and special issue wargear sil vous plait!

Pts cost of said special wargear as well please :]

Would you happen to have the height and width of the robots as im making my own.

**Orock**

Enigwolf wrote:
I have my Cult Mechanicus codex in hand as well as the Tech-Priest Dominus. Already opened the Dominus and am working on it, the dang thing has so many small fiddly bits its easy to break something while removing mould lines. I left my CM codex at my FLGS, though, and won't be back there till Thursday. Do you guys want pictures of anything in the 'dex in the mean time? (Pics of the dominus to come shortly)

Frozen Ocean wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Agreed, loving the mods people are coming out with.

Heres mine as of last night;

Your previous image in this thread is what made me resolve to get at least one of the robots eventually. I'll still have to replace the arms and give it new feet, but the sunken head is definitely a strong start.

Has anyone else noticed how their legs look rather Eldar? The bubbled silhouette and weird hoof-feet things remind me a lot of Wraiths and War Walkers, as do the knees.

It reminds me of a giant space marine.

I still don't understand how people get their stuff a week early. But I would like to see the relics and wargear as well. And confirmation on the canticles as well.

**Requizen**

Oh yeah, can multiple Canticles be used at once? It would add more of a dynamic if you had to decide whether to give yourself Shrouding, or rerolls to hit, or both, or neither and save it for later.

**Talys**

Gitsplitta wrote:
I really like the gap between the collar and the heads. Very nicely done Wilson.

I did that on mine! It happens when you reverse the head (with the dorky side facing back) and let it sink down to the bottom

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Accolade wrote:
They still just don't look that good to me. And I see these conversions ya'll are doing and think "dang, these fellows put forth some really awesome effort and sculpting, everything else they do looks fantastic."

It's these kits, the proportions are cartoon-level exaggerated like 40k were undergoing a Flanderization.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization

Them and the electropriests I feel are the duds of the AM release.

Actually, I thought the priests looked pretty awesome. The rules may be lacking, but the models -- especially with the staff -- are kinda cool.

**Wilson**

I love the preists with gauntlets, i think they look awesome but unfortunately, they suck.