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So, I saw Goblin Slayer.
White Fox (I think that's who made it) did not pull punches and its great.
They didn't keep the back stories of the rookies, but that's ok because due to the brutality of what happened to them, kicking the puppy after punting it across the field would be excessive. Surprisingly limited black bars, or at least obvious black bars. They probably did a smart thing and use the cave's shadows to hide the nasty bits. I liked the grey distortion effect they used during the priestess's freak out, neat little touch.

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Yeah, its better to obscure with lighting or other obstructions than to use crappy censor bars.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, its better to obscure with lighting or other obstructions than to use crappy censor bars.


And miss out on Terraformar's avant garde style?



You can't tell cause there's these huge black circles on the screen, but that guy totally jacked that other dude's butterfinger.

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At least it’s better than the white bars from Blood C that would often cover three quarters of the screen.

 
   
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Golden Kamui is back and yikes.. I was hoping to forget about those chapters.



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So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The hobby is actually hating GW.
 iGuy91 wrote:
You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
 Elbows wrote:
You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...
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Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
 
   
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Well IIRC, one more episode of that excessive stuff to hammer home how horrible goblins are and it should be more than clear to the viewers that they have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

It does improve from there on out as more characters are introduced and he gets really creative with killing goblins.




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Thanks, I'll stick with it. I posted that exact same blurb to an anime group on facebook and been called immature, an idiot, bitching and blowing ten seconds out of the water. And then told to read the manga as though an anime cannot possibly be viewed on its own merits.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The hobby is actually hating GW.
 iGuy91 wrote:
You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
 Elbows wrote:
You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...
the_scotsman wrote:
Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
 
   
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Yeah, goblins raping is present for the first few chapters, but it drops off pretty quickly and only serves to remind you later how terrible goblins are
Spoiler:
such as when they use women as living shields, or a distraction for ambushes. Past that I think there's only a couple more rape scenes, and attempted rape scenes IIRC


(spoiler is really minor stuff (no specific plot details in it), but I wasn't totally sure, so I'll spoiler it.)

On another note about goblin slayer, I think the swordsman's twitching hand is what sticks with me most, as the goblin prepares to chop it off. Might just be because the rape went by pretty quickly, and they kept showing the hand scene.

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The swordsman getting hacked to pieces is another way of showing how cruel and sadistic they are, they don't just kill him, but they keep on hacking and chopping well past the point of death.

The next episode will be a bit worse even as the goblins deal with that adventurer party they brought down..

Spoiler:
One is raped, the ranger is used for target practice, the mage gets burned at the stake and the last one gets disembowelled and has her guts stuffed into her mouth, which was always a horrible scene, but Goblin Slayer and Priestess wipe them all out rather satisfyingly.


But after that things will get better as others join forces with him and he gets to show off just why he's silver who got by just killing goblins.

There is a prequel manga ongoing right now called Goblins Slayer side story Year One, which delves into why he is what he is and how he came to be so crazy prepared for everything.



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 BrookM wrote:
The swordsman getting hacked to pieces is another way of showing how cruel and sadistic they are, they don't just kill him, but they keep on hacking and chopping well past the point of death.

The next episode will be a bit worse even as the goblins deal with that adventurer party they brought down..

Spoiler:
One is raped, the ranger is used for target practice, the mage gets burned at the stake and the last one gets disembowelled and has her guts stuffed into her mouth, which was always a horrible scene, but Goblin Slayer and Priestess wipe them all out rather satisfyingly.


But after that things will get better as others join forces with him and he gets to show off just why he's silver who got by just killing goblins.

There is a prequel manga ongoing right now called Goblins Slayer side story Year One, which delves into why he is what he is and how he came to be so crazy prepared for everything.

Exactly, the swordsman isn't even dead and they're already chopping him up to be eaten.

Also, which chapter is the spoiler? I don't remember it.

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bittersashes wrote:One guy down at my gaming club swore he saw an objective flag take out a full unit of Bane Thralls.
 
   
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 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


It actually does serve the plot, in a way.
Spoiler:
Goblins have a weird reproduction method where there are no goblin women, so they have to breed with women from other species. I don't know how they evolved that way, but I guess its meant to be reminiscent of parasitism. Think Alien, or what some species of wasps can do.
I think its also implied that Goblins aren't even a natural species. There's a panel in the manga where the Slayer's party discusses the possible origins of the goblins, and iirc, it ranges from "mad wizard project" to "spiteful aliens from the moon"

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 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.

   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
AOT seemed like the show to make it up as it goes along.


QFT.

Or it's a really long con

   
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 AduroT wrote:
At least it’s better than the white bars from Blood C that would often cover three quarters of the screen.


There's also that one show I can't remember the name of where instead of using steam or watery shadows to hide the girl's personal areas during a bath they used shining bright lights that blind you and obscure everything on the screen to the point you can't even tell who is talking five minutes into the first episode.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
I don't think the series holds up personally. BaconCatBug and Overread nailed my thoughts on the series, and honestly I think the Manga is even worse cause it meanders more than the Anime does.

I think the anime for once does the story better justice because action and "humanity feth yeah" are the story's only real redeeming virtues.


Overall, I agree. I jumped to the manga after the first season and the storytelling is pretty dreadful. I'd actually given up on the show knowing where it goes but I've caught a few episodes here and there and forget how much the animation of the 3D gear helps keep things engaging. I pretty much checked out of the plot during the bit where the shifters all basically climb out of their cockpits for a chat before hopping back in. It's a neat enough twist, but the appeal drains away for me afterwards and the shock horror in general isn't super appealing for me. The arc transitions feel rougher in the manga too. The anime actually seems to be a good job editing things down to what matters. Still not my favorite show and I still don't really care for the shifter thing, but I'd much rather watch the show than read the manga.
   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.


I think they explain in the series that since goblins are considered lowly vermin, most adventures past the rank of silver don't bother with them, as they consider them to be unworthy of their skills, and even the adventurers who know how dangerous goblins can be are reluctant to take goblin jobs as the going rate for goblin quests are nowhere near high enough to justify their risk. Overtime more and more goblins get ignored, to the point that its a huge problem. Normally what happens in the case of a serious goblin infestation is that the army is supposed to step in, iirc, but due to the arrival of a demon lord and the presence of several powerful monsters, the army can't deal with them right now.
Furthermore, as Goblins tend to attack small rural areas, the big cities and lords don't really care, as unless the Goblins are directly threatening them, what happens to peasants just isn't their concern.
It would be like calling in US marines to deal with rats in rural Texas when Washington is being invaded.

So basically the Goblin problem stems from politics, cultural preconceptions and economics. Sounds pretty realistic to me.

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I understand the in universe explanations, I just don't buy them. Human beings will often ignore and put off dealing with a problem, but there's a breaking point on that and Goblin Slayer's setting is so past that in terms of goblins that I found it pulling me out of the story.

EDIT: Though to be fair I might have an easier time with it if the story showed more of the rest of the world. We hear about all these other things that seem kind of bad (fire sorcerers, evil wizards, demons and the like) but all we ever see if goblins wrecking stuff and everyone ignoring it except the MC. In Goblin Slayer year one, we see goblins attacking a whole town while everyone else is off hunting a rock monster whose only apparently crime is... being a rock monster in an abandoned mine no one cares about except that it has a rock monster in it. It's paints an odd lop sided picture.

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 LordofHats wrote:
I understand the in universe explanations, I just don't buy them. Human beings will often ignore and put off dealing with a problem, but there's a breaking point on that and Goblin Slayer's setting is so past that in terms of goblins that I found it pulling me out of the story.

EDIT: Though to be fair I might have an easier time with it if the story showed more of the rest of the world. We hear about all these other things that seem kind of bad (fire sorcerers, evil wizards, demons and the like) but all we ever see if goblins wrecking stuff and everyone ignoring it except the MC. In Goblin Slayer year one, we see goblins attacking a whole town while everyone else is off hunting a rock monster whose only apparently crime is... being a rock monster in an abandoned mine no one cares about except that it has a rock monster in it. It's paints an odd lop sided picture.


But... isn't Goblin Slayer's world like...

Spoiler:
Literally a RPG game? Or did I took that too seriously when they show it on the manga?


After that, at least for me, everything had much more sense, specially how "gamey" the talk of the characters was.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Well I started reading the managa/light novel and it is way easier without the sound effects. Also it feels really disjointed, but maybe that's because I've never read a light novel before.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The hobby is actually hating GW.
 iGuy91 wrote:
You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
 Elbows wrote:
You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...
the_scotsman wrote:
Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
 
   
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 Galas wrote:
*snip*


I got to that bit, but I took it as a metaphor.

   
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.


I think they explain in the series that since goblins are considered lowly vermin, most adventures past the rank of silver don't bother with them

Silver is quite high, it's the 3rd highest rank (gold and platinum being higher), and silver is the highest that goes out on quests still, so it makes sense most silver adventurers would not deal with goblins, as they're the types that slay dragons and demons (which probably earn them their gold or platinum tags).

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 LordofHats wrote:
 Galas wrote:
*snip*


I got to that bit, but I took it as a metaphor.


I took it literally, and as I said, everything did had much more sense to me after that. It made me actually enjoy the whole thing. Until that point I was like... "I started this, lets try to finish at least the chapters that are allready released"

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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on the forum. Obviously

 Wolfblade wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.


I think they explain in the series that since goblins are considered lowly vermin, most adventures past the rank of silver don't bother with them

Silver is quite high, it's the 3rd highest rank (gold and platinum being higher), and silver is the highest that goes out on quests still, so it makes sense most silver adventurers would not deal with goblins, as they're the types that slay dragons and demons (which probably earn them their gold or platinum tags).


That is true. Come to think of it, have they mentioned any other ranks? I don't recall them going through the whole system. I only said Silver because that's the only rank that came to mind that's higher than porcelain (the lowest) but lower than gold, and that a lot of characters remarked how odd it is that the Slayer is a silver ranked adventurer who kills only goblins.

What I have
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~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Wolfblade wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.


I think they explain in the series that since goblins are considered lowly vermin, most adventures past the rank of silver don't bother with them

Silver is quite high, it's the 3rd highest rank (gold and platinum being higher), and silver is the highest that goes out on quests still, so it makes sense most silver adventurers would not deal with goblins, as they're the types that slay dragons and demons (which probably earn them their gold or platinum tags).


That is true. Come to think of it, have they mentioned any other ranks? I don't recall them going through the whole system. I only said Silver because that's the only rank that came to mind that's higher than porcelain (the lowest) but lower than gold, and that a lot of characters remarked how odd it is that the Slayer is a silver ranked adventurer who kills only goblins.
Yeah, they mentioned it in the manga I think, and maybe went over it pretty quick in the anime. The full rank list is from highest to lowest: Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, Steel, Obsidian, and lastly, Porcelain

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 Galas wrote:
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I understand the in universe explanations, I just don't buy them. Human beings will often ignore and put off dealing with a problem, but there's a breaking point on that and Goblin Slayer's setting is so past that in terms of goblins that I found it pulling me out of the story.

EDIT: Though to be fair I might have an easier time with it if the story showed more of the rest of the world. We hear about all these other things that seem kind of bad (fire sorcerers, evil wizards, demons and the like) but all we ever see if goblins wrecking stuff and everyone ignoring it except the MC. In Goblin Slayer year one, we see goblins attacking a whole town while everyone else is off hunting a rock monster whose only apparently crime is... being a rock monster in an abandoned mine no one cares about except that it has a rock monster in it. It's paints an odd lop sided picture.


But... isn't Goblin Slayer's world like...

Spoiler:
Literally a RPG game? Or did I took that too seriously when they show it on the manga?


After that, at least for me, everything had much more sense, specially how "gamey" the talk of the characters was.


I think its one of those settings where its heavily based on a RPG system, but its "real" in the sense that people die and stuff.
Anime and manga is weird like that. Its interesting to note that no one has a real name; everyone is addressed by their job description. I always chalked that up to the author not bothering to come up with names, which is pretty hard to do. Unless you just name everyone Bob. Especially the women.


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So, Goblin Slayer. I like the rule, if it doesn't do anything for the plot, don't include rape. I can see the argument, 'hey it makes you hate the goblins', which it certainly does, but it was pretty gratuitous, one cut away from being some kind of monster hentai. And frankly I don't really want to see that. I get it, shock value and all, and I'll probably keep watching, but it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, for want of a better phrase.


The manga was even more gratuitous, though at the same time I find that rule kind of silly. Genocide in fiction is fine. Mass murder is a okay. Creepy serial killers go for it. But no rape? Rather arbitrary lines we draw on the kinds of horrors can be acceptably thrown out to casually make us hate the bad guys. I won't call you an idiot for it though cause wow that's immature and you know now to stay away from anime groups on facebook those people are crazy.

In Goblin Slayer I'd actually agree the rape and stuff is misplaced, not because it's rape but because the whole package comes off as bizarre. The goblins are patently one of the most common and vile problems in the setting, raping pillaging and killing their way through poorly defended farmsteads and villages frequently. Yet the world at large seems to treat dealing with them as some kind of minimum wage job for rookies. More than a few rookies get killed (and other things) for walking into a goblin den casually in the manga, and it's enough to make me wonder how stupid people are in the setting. It works in a meta sense because goblins are rarely top tier enemies in the fantasy RPGs the story emulates and Goblin Slayer kind of rubs it in the readers face "see how dangerous these grunts can really be", but in-universe it's rather senseless and killed the story for me.

Still gonna watch the anime though cause the main character is pretty metal.


I think they explain in the series that since goblins are considered lowly vermin, most adventures past the rank of silver don't bother with them

Silver is quite high, it's the 3rd highest rank (gold and platinum being higher), and silver is the highest that goes out on quests still, so it makes sense most silver adventurers would not deal with goblins, as they're the types that slay dragons and demons (which probably earn them their gold or platinum tags).


That is true. Come to think of it, have they mentioned any other ranks? I don't recall them going through the whole system. I only said Silver because that's the only rank that came to mind that's higher than porcelain (the lowest) but lower than gold, and that a lot of characters remarked how odd it is that the Slayer is a silver ranked adventurer who kills only goblins.
Yeah, they mentioned it in the manga I think, and maybe went over it pretty quick in the anime. The full rank list is from highest to lowest: Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, Steel, Obsidian, and lastly, Porcelain


Wow is that it? That's weird. I must have missed it in the manga. I was expecting something like Plat, Gold, Silver, steel, iron, bronze, copper, tin, stone, porcelain.
Its not often you see gems in a ranking system. Its usually metal based.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Galas wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
I understand the in universe explanations, I just don't buy them. Human beings will often ignore and put off dealing with a problem, but there's a breaking point on that and Goblin Slayer's setting is so past that in terms of goblins that I found it pulling me out of the story.

EDIT: Though to be fair I might have an easier time with it if the story showed more of the rest of the world. We hear about all these other things that seem kind of bad (fire sorcerers, evil wizards, demons and the like) but all we ever see if goblins wrecking stuff and everyone ignoring it except the MC. In Goblin Slayer year one, we see goblins attacking a whole town while everyone else is off hunting a rock monster whose only apparently crime is... being a rock monster in an abandoned mine no one cares about except that it has a rock monster in it. It's paints an odd lop sided picture.


But... isn't Goblin Slayer's world like...

Spoiler:
Literally a RPG game? Or did I took that too seriously when they show it on the manga?


After that, at least for me, everything had much more sense, specially how "gamey" the talk of the characters was.


I think its one of those settings where its heavily based on a RPG system, but its "real" in the sense that people die and stuff.
Anime and manga is weird like that. Its interesting to note that no one has a real name; everyone is addressed by their job description. I always chalked that up to the author not bothering to come up with names, which is pretty hard to do. Unless you just name everyone Bob. Especially the women.




Yeah, for the characters of course all that happens is real. But I take everything much less serious. Also, at the end of the first episode of the anime, you can hear dices rolling.

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 Galas wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Galas wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
I understand the in universe explanations, I just don't buy them. Human beings will often ignore and put off dealing with a problem, but there's a breaking point on that and Goblin Slayer's setting is so past that in terms of goblins that I found it pulling me out of the story.

EDIT: Though to be fair I might have an easier time with it if the story showed more of the rest of the world. We hear about all these other things that seem kind of bad (fire sorcerers, evil wizards, demons and the like) but all we ever see if goblins wrecking stuff and everyone ignoring it except the MC. In Goblin Slayer year one, we see goblins attacking a whole town while everyone else is off hunting a rock monster whose only apparently crime is... being a rock monster in an abandoned mine no one cares about except that it has a rock monster in it. It's paints an odd lop sided picture.


But... isn't Goblin Slayer's world like...

Spoiler:
Literally a RPG game? Or did I took that too seriously when they show it on the manga?


After that, at least for me, everything had much more sense, specially how "gamey" the talk of the characters was.


I think its one of those settings where its heavily based on a RPG system, but its "real" in the sense that people die and stuff.
Anime and manga is weird like that. Its interesting to note that no one has a real name; everyone is addressed by their job description. I always chalked that up to the author not bothering to come up with names, which is pretty hard to do. Unless you just name everyone Bob. Especially the women.




Yeah, for the characters of course all that happens is real. But I take everything much less serious. Also, at the end of the first episode of the anime, you can hear dices rolling.


Ah, you actually find out what that's about later on the manga
Spoiler:
You are actually on to something that its all a game. You know how in the Color of Magic the gods are playing with the fates of humanity? Its the same thing in Goblin Slayer. A bunch of gods sit around and they play with the fates of mankind, and Slayer is just one of the pieces on the board. What's unique about his piece though is that it seems to do what it wants and stubbornly refuses whatever the gods roll for it. I think it even pushes one of the dice in a panel.
I just remembered that part. That's some fine foreshadowing in the anime. Awesome.

The RPG similarities are clearly drawn from RPG games though. Did the gods set it up that way? Idk. Maybe. Anime is weird.

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It wouldn't be the first Anime to do it. No Game No Life comes to mind (talk about a series that needed another season).

   
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