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2016/05/05 14:39:14
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Mexico may have rolled up the white flag, but here in Britain, David Cameron refuses to apologise for calling Trump an idiot, and up here in Scotland, moves are still afoot to ban Trump from entering Scotland!
Should President Trump wish to send in the Marines, I've got my trench dug, and my grandfather's steel helmet on standby
Bring it on America!
Lol, depending on who they send, it could very well be like that scene in Braveheart when the Irish show up.... we're all charging at each other, blood and guts and all that, and right at the last minute it's slowing down for hugs, handshakes and warm welcomes all around
And the best thing about that graph - France has you guys owned. Turns out favourable conditions for working women, and limiting work hours do wonders to draw more people in to the economy. Damn socialists with their sensible and well constructed working conditions.
While I don't disagree with you.... don't French workers go on strike like, every other week because the croissants aren't flaky enough, or if a Frenchman continues to NOT with the Tour de France?
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d-usa wrote: If there is a labor statistics people should point out, it would be wage stagnation. But that's an area Republicans don't want to touch, so they focus on bogus numbers instead.
That's because the Republicans are thoroughly wedded to the bogus idea that trickle down works. Naturally their biggest donor base is going to be against this topic coming up, so naturally the Republicans (and by extension, any politician who's received large sums of money from business interests) are going to avoid this topic.
In many ways the USA only has its self to blame. You had a nice parliamentary system, and if you had stuck with it for a few more years, you would have gotten your freedom and ended up being Canadian!
Instead, you allowed yourself to be influenced by dangerous ideas like freedom. Rootbeer. Constitution.
Trump is the logical conclusion of 1776
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2016/05/05 14:56:48
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
So some friends of mine who are republicans but are not voting for trump explained how his rise of power came.
White Working class and middle class are PISSED and tired of being ignored. They are seeing their benefits slashed, their children are paying more for school than they did and getting in dept. But they see all these special benefits given to people that come over here illegally(Like the DREAM ACT) or special treatment to minorities and jobs just going away. They work hard but reap none of the benefits of their tax money that is given to lazy freeloaders.
Just though it was interesting. Their grips are not necessarily small ones.
5000pts 6000pts 3000pts
2016/05/05 15:05:00
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
kronk wrote: Don't forget tobacco and whiskey, both favorite crops of our founding fathers!
Here in Scotland, we spell Whisky without the E because we're renegades!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2016/05/05 15:11:49
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Don't you mean 'scandal'? The Republicans love manufacturing fake scandals to accuse the Clintons of...
It's now to the 'boy who cried wolf' point.
There's enough skeletons in the Clinton closet to give Vlad Von Carstein another shot at invading the Empire!
The Republicans don't have to manufacture anything.
I have a feeling most of those skeletons were manufactured by the right wing spin machine. Tell a lie often enough, and all that. I'd be surprised if the Clintons were so legally lax those decades under intense enemy scrutiny. Anything they did that migh be ethically grey will almost certainly be kosher with the legal team.
skyth wrote: Don't you mean 'scandal'? The Republicans love manufacturing fake scandals to accuse the Clintons of...
It's now to the 'boy who cried wolf' point.
There's enough skeletons in the Clinton closet to give Vlad Von Carstein another shot at invading the Empire!
The Republicans don't have to manufacture anything.
I have a feeling most of those skeletons were manufactured by the right wing spin machine. Tell a lie often enough, and all that. I'd be surprised if the Clintons were so legally lax those decades under intense enemy scrutiny. Anything they did that migh be ethically grey will almost certainly be kosher with the legal team.
From the top of my head, Bill Clinton faced possible impeachment because he had been having 'liasons' with somebody called Monica, and Hilary Clinton made a claim about being under fire from snipers when she visited Bosnia in the 1990s, which later turned out to be bullgak, so there's two things, amongst many, to attack the Clintons with.
kronk wrote: Don't forget tobacco and whiskey, both favorite crops of our founding fathers!
Here in Scotland, we spell Whisky without the E because we're renegades!
In my house we spell it b-o-u-r-b-o-n because we have class.
Fun fact: In Britain, Bourbon is the name of a variety of cheap, chocolate biscuit.
Personally, I like them because they go well with a cup of tea
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2016/05/05 15:45:43
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Apparently a Trump supporting tow truck driver in South Carolina claimed a Religious Freedom exemption and refused to tow a disabled woman because she was a Bernie supporter.
2016/05/05 15:52:24
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Apparently a Trump supporting tow truck driver in South Carolina claimed a Religious Freedom exemption and refused to tow a disabled woman because she was a Bernie supporter.
The right wing have been after the Clintons for over 20 years. There clearly isn't any serious traction in these accusations for whatever reasons, and they are only any use in addressing the already committed anti-Clintonites-- preaching to the choir, in other words.
d-usa wrote: Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for having an affair.
But the point remains - there's plenty of ammo for opponents of the Clinton's to attack them with, so I'm not buying the argument put forward by others that the Republicans are manufacturing stuff.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2016/05/05 16:01:40
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
d-usa wrote: Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for having an affair.
How are the people who led the impeachment doing ?
How many marriages has Trump had ?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/05/05 16:03:16
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
d-usa wrote: Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for having an affair.
But the point remains - there's plenty of ammo for opponents of the Clinton's to attack them with, so I'm not buying the argument put forward by others that the Republicans are manufacturing stuff.
For clarification as this get confused quite a bit...
Bill Clinton was impeachedby the House for perjury.
The Senate was unable to *remove* Clinton from office.
That's basically the process to remove people from office for most Executive/Judicial positions. It's just that it's rare...
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2016/05/05 16:07:14
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Apparently a Trump supporting tow truck driver in South Carolina claimed a Religious Freedom exemption and refused to tow a disabled woman because she was a Bernie supporter.
“He goes around back and comes back and says, ‘I can’t tow you,'” McWade said. “My first instinct was there must be something wrong with the car, and he says, ‘No, you’re a Bernie supporter.’ And I was like, ‘Wait — really?’ And he says, ‘Yes ma’am,’ and just walks away.”
Shupe offered a supernatural explanation for his decision to leave the 25-year-old McWade, who suffers from arthritis and other health conditions, alongside I-26.
“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and He just said, ‘Get in the truck and leave,'” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”
The Donald Trump supporter then offered a more earthly explanation for stranding the customer....
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/05/05 16:11:02
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Apparently a Trump supporting tow truck driver in South Carolina claimed a Religious Freedom exemption and refused to tow a disabled woman because she was a Bernie supporter.
“He goes around back and comes back and says, ‘I can’t tow you,'” McWade said. “My first instinct was there must be something wrong with the car, and he says, ‘No, you’re a Bernie supporter.’ And I was like, ‘Wait — really?’ And he says, ‘Yes ma’am,’ and just walks away.”
Shupe offered a supernatural explanation for his decision to leave the 25-year-old McWade, who suffers from arthritis and other health conditions, alongside I-26.
“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and He just said, ‘Get in the truck and leave,'” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”
The Donald Trump supporter then offered a more earthly explanation for stranding the customer....
Still not a claim of using Religious Freedom...
:shrug:
He's a dick hole, but hey... party affiliation isn't a protected class. If he truly didn't want to deal with Sander's supportors, he could've at least called another tow truck for her...
Somebody is covering all their bases for November!
Looks like Scotland is still the last country that's defying Trump
Ready the Haggis to repel the hordes of US marines hitting our beaches
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2016/05/05 16:40:15
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
d-usa wrote: Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for having an affair.
But the point remains - there's plenty of ammo for opponents of the Clinton's to attack them with, so I'm not buying the argument put forward by others that the Republicans are manufacturing stuff.
Ammo that old doesn't fire any more.
What scandalous things have they done since 2000? Or are we just going to hear the golden oldies on repeat until November?
If the Republicans had anything they would have used it by now. Benghazi and emailgate are weaksause attacks that make them look pathetic and her look like more of an innocent victim than any politician ever should. Frankly, the huge amount of irrational Hillary hate everywhere comes across as ignorant, which saps any credibility the Hillary detractors would have had. People talk about her like she's pure evil, and when asked why point to scandals so petty they are meaningless.
AN OPEN LETTER TO MAJORITY AMERICA
TO: Those who think both leading presidential candidates are dishonest and have little chance of leading America forward:
(…or, stated more simply)
TO: The majority of America:
Note: If you are one of those rare souls who genuinely believe Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are honorable people – if they are the role models you want for your kids – then this letter is not for you. Instead, this letter is for the majority of Americans who wonder why the nation that put a man on the moon can’t find a healthy leader who can take us forward together.
I want to tell you about four unsolicited conversations from the Fremont Wal-Mart this morning:
**Retired union Democrat meat-packer:
“What the heck is wrong with that city where you work? Why can’t they give us a normal person? Is it really so hard?”
Me: “Actually, it is for them – because most people in DC buy the nonsense that DC is the center of the world. You and I, despite our party differences, both agree that Fremont is the center.”
Union Democrat (interrupting): “…Because this is where my grandkids are.”
**Young evangelical mom:
“I want to cry. I disagree with Hillary Clinton on almost every single thing – but I will vote for her before Trump. I could never tell my kids later that I voted for that man.”
**Middle-aged Republican male (more political than the other folks):
“It feels like the train-car to hell is accelerating. Why is DC more filled with weirdos and yet more powerful at the same time? How do we slow this down long enough to have a conversation about actually fixing our country?”
**Trump supporter (again, unsolicited):
“Please understand: I’m going to vote for him, but I don’t like him. And I don’t trust him – I mean, I’m not stupid. But how else can I send a signal to Washington?!”
________
I’ve ignored my phone most of today, but the voicemail is overflowing with party bosses and politicos telling me that “although Trump is terrible,” we “have to” support him, “because the only choice is Trump or Hillary.”
This open letter aims simply to ask “WHY is that the only choice?”
Melissa and I got the kids launched on homework, so I’ve been sitting out by the river, reflecting on the great gap between what folks in my town are talking about, and what folks in the DC bubble are talking about.
I trust the judgment of this farm town way more than I trust DC. And so I’d like to share a dozen-ish observations on these Wal-Mart and other conversations today:
1.
Washington isn’t fooling anyone -- Neither political party works. They bicker like children about tiny things, and yet they can’t even identify the biggest issues we face. They’re like a couple arguing about what color to paint the living room, and meanwhile, their house is on fire. They resort to character attacks as step one because they think voters are too dumb for a real debate. They very often prioritize the agendas of lobbyists (for whom many of them will eventually work) over the urgent needs of Main Street America. I signed up for the Party of Abraham Lincoln -- and I will work to reform and restore the GOP -- but let’s tell the plain truth that right now both parties lack vision.
2.
As a result, normal Americans don’t like either party. If you ask Americans if they identify as Democrat or Republican, almost half of the nation interrupts to say: “Neither.”
3.
Young people despise the two parties even more than the general electorate. And why shouldn’t they? The main thing that unites most Democrats is being anti-Republican; the main thing that unites most Republicans is being anti-Democrat. No one knows what either party is for -- but almost everyone knows neither party has any solutions for our problems. “Unproductive” doesn’t begin to summarize how messed up this is.
4.
Our problems are huge right now, but one of the most obvious is that we’ve not passed along the meaning of America to the next generation. If we don’t get them to re-engage -- thinking about how we defend a free society in the face of global jihadis, or how we balance our budgets after baby boomers have dishonestly over-promised for decades, or how we protect First Amendment values in the face of the safe-space movement – then all will indeed have been lost. One of the bright spots with the rising generation, though, is that they really would like to rethink the often knee-jerk partisanship of their parents and grandparents. We should encourage this rethinking.
5.
These two national political parties are enough of a mess that I believe they will come apart. It might not happen fully in 2016 – and I’ll continue fighting to revive the GOP with ideas -- but when people’s needs aren’t being met, they ultimately find other solutions.
6.
In the history of polling, we’ve basically never had a candidate viewed negatively by half of the electorate. This year, we have two. In fact, we now have the two most unpopular candidates ever – Hillary by a little, and Trump by miles (including now 3 out of 4 women – who vote more and influence more votes than men). There are dumpster fires in my town more popular than these two “leaders.”
7.
With Clinton and Trump, the fix is in. Heads, they win; tails, you lose. Why are we confined to these two terrible options? This is America. If both choices stink, we reject them and go bigger. That’s what we do.
8.
Remember: our Founders didn’t want entrenched political parties. So why should we accept this terrible choice?
9.
So...let’s have a thought experiment for a few weeks: Why shouldn’t America draft an honest leader who will focus on 70% solutions for the next four years? You know...an adult?
(Two notes for reporters:
**Such a leader should be able to campaign 24/7 for the next six months. Therefore he/she likely can’t be an engaged parent with little kids.
**Although I’m one of the most conservative members of the Senate, I'm not interested in an ideological purity test, because even a genuine consensus candidate would almost certainly be more conservative than either of the two dishonest liberals now leading the two national parties.)
10.
Imagine if we had a candidate:
...who hadn’t spent his/her life in politics either buying politicians or being bought
…who didn’t want to stitch together a coalition based on anger but wanted to take a whole nation forward
…who pledged to serve for only one term, as a care-taker problem-solver for this messy moment
…who knew that Washington isn’t competent to micromanage the lives of free people, but instead wanted to SERVE by focusing on 3 or 4 big national problems,
such as:
A. A national security strategy for the age of cyber and jihad;
B. Honest budgeting/entitlement reform so that we stop stealing from future generations;
C. Empowering states and local governments to improve K-12 education, and letting Washington figure out how to update federal programs to adjust to now needing lifelong learners in an age where folks are obviously not going to work at a single job for a lifetime anymore; and
D. Retiring career politicians by ending all the incumbency protections, special rules, and revolving door opportunities for folks who should be public “servants,” not masters.
This really shouldn’t be that hard.
The oath I took is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. In brief, that means I’m for limited government.
And there is no reason to believe that either of these two national frontrunners believe in limiting anything about DC’s power.
I believe that most Americans can still be for limited government again -- if they were given a winsome candidate who wanted Washington to focus on a small number of really important, urgent things -- in a way that tried to bring people together instead of driving us apart.
I think there is room – an appetite – for such a candidate.
What am I missing?
More importantly, what are the people at the Fremont Wal-Mart missing?
Because I don’t think they are wrong. They deserve better. They deserve a Congress that tackles the biggest policy problems facing the nation. And they deserve a president who knows that his or her job is not to “reign,” but to serve as commander-in-chief and to “faithfully execute” the laws – not to claim imperial powers to rewrite them with his pen and phone.
The sun is mostly set on the Platte River -- and the kids need baths. So g’night.
Ben
#WeCanDoBetter
#GiveUsMoreChoices
Help me, Rhonda. HA!
2016/05/05 16:54:32
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Lost me as soon as he started ranting that a concensus candidate would be more conservative than either of the two 'Liberal' front runners. A person that calls Hillary or especially Trump a Liberal has views that have no basis in reality.
2016/05/05 17:11:24
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Lost me as soon as he started ranting that a concensus candidate would be more conservative than either of the two 'Liberal' front runners. A person that calls Hillary or especially Trump a Liberal has views that have no basis in reality.
But he trusts that farm town more than some city with learnin'. Farm town Walmart is where good governance is born.
hotsauceman1 wrote: So some friends of mine who are republicans but are not voting for trump explained how his rise of power came.
White Working class and middle class are PISSED and tired of being ignored. They are seeing their benefits slashed, their children are paying more for school than they did and getting in dept. But they see all these special benefits given to people that come over here illegally(Like the DREAM ACT) or special treatment to minorities and jobs just going away. They work hard but reap none of the benefits of their tax money that is given to lazy freeloaders.
Just though it was interesting. Their grips are not necessarily small ones.
OFTEN we disagree, but sir, you have nailed it in one.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/05/05 17:14:36
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
AN OPEN LETTER TO MAJORITY AMERICA
TO: Those who think both leading presidential candidates are dishonest and have little chance of leading America forward:
(…or, stated more simply)
TO: The majority of America:
Note: If you are one of those rare souls who genuinely believe Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are honorable people – if they are the role models you want for your kids – then this letter is not for you. Instead, this letter is for the majority of Americans who wonder why the nation that put a man on the moon can’t find a healthy leader who can take us forward together.
I want to tell you about four unsolicited conversations from the Fremont Wal-Mart this morning:
**Retired union Democrat meat-packer:
“What the heck is wrong with that city where you work? Why can’t they give us a normal person? Is it really so hard?”
Me: “Actually, it is for them – because most people in DC buy the nonsense that DC is the center of the world. You and I, despite our party differences, both agree that Fremont is the center.”
Union Democrat (interrupting): “…Because this is where my grandkids are.”
**Young evangelical mom:
“I want to cry. I disagree with Hillary Clinton on almost every single thing – but I will vote for her before Trump. I could never tell my kids later that I voted for that man.”
**Middle-aged Republican male (more political than the other folks):
“It feels like the train-car to hell is accelerating. Why is DC more filled with weirdos and yet more powerful at the same time? How do we slow this down long enough to have a conversation about actually fixing our country?”
**Trump supporter (again, unsolicited):
“Please understand: I’m going to vote for him, but I don’t like him. And I don’t trust him – I mean, I’m not stupid. But how else can I send a signal to Washington?!”
________
I’ve ignored my phone most of today, but the voicemail is overflowing with party bosses and politicos telling me that “although Trump is terrible,” we “have to” support him, “because the only choice is Trump or Hillary.”
This open letter aims simply to ask “WHY is that the only choice?”
Melissa and I got the kids launched on homework, so I’ve been sitting out by the river, reflecting on the great gap between what folks in my town are talking about, and what folks in the DC bubble are talking about.
I trust the judgment of this farm town way more than I trust DC. And so I’d like to share a dozen-ish observations on these Wal-Mart and other conversations today:
1.
Washington isn’t fooling anyone -- Neither political party works. They bicker like children about tiny things, and yet they can’t even identify the biggest issues we face. They’re like a couple arguing about what color to paint the living room, and meanwhile, their house is on fire. They resort to character attacks as step one because they think voters are too dumb for a real debate. They very often prioritize the agendas of lobbyists (for whom many of them will eventually work) over the urgent needs of Main Street America. I signed up for the Party of Abraham Lincoln -- and I will work to reform and restore the GOP -- but let’s tell the plain truth that right now both parties lack vision.
2.
As a result, normal Americans don’t like either party. If you ask Americans if they identify as Democrat or Republican, almost half of the nation interrupts to say: “Neither.”
3.
Young people despise the two parties even more than the general electorate. And why shouldn’t they? The main thing that unites most Democrats is being anti-Republican; the main thing that unites most Republicans is being anti-Democrat. No one knows what either party is for -- but almost everyone knows neither party has any solutions for our problems. “Unproductive” doesn’t begin to summarize how messed up this is.
4.
Our problems are huge right now, but one of the most obvious is that we’ve not passed along the meaning of America to the next generation. If we don’t get them to re-engage -- thinking about how we defend a free society in the face of global jihadis, or how we balance our budgets after baby boomers have dishonestly over-promised for decades, or how we protect First Amendment values in the face of the safe-space movement – then all will indeed have been lost. One of the bright spots with the rising generation, though, is that they really would like to rethink the often knee-jerk partisanship of their parents and grandparents. We should encourage this rethinking.
5.
These two national political parties are enough of a mess that I believe they will come apart. It might not happen fully in 2016 – and I’ll continue fighting to revive the GOP with ideas -- but when people’s needs aren’t being met, they ultimately find other solutions.
6.
In the history of polling, we’ve basically never had a candidate viewed negatively by half of the electorate. This year, we have two. In fact, we now have the two most unpopular candidates ever – Hillary by a little, and Trump by miles (including now 3 out of 4 women – who vote more and influence more votes than men). There are dumpster fires in my town more popular than these two “leaders.”
7.
With Clinton and Trump, the fix is in. Heads, they win; tails, you lose. Why are we confined to these two terrible options? This is America. If both choices stink, we reject them and go bigger. That’s what we do.
8.
Remember: our Founders didn’t want entrenched political parties. So why should we accept this terrible choice?
9.
So...let’s have a thought experiment for a few weeks: Why shouldn’t America draft an honest leader who will focus on 70% solutions for the next four years? You know...an adult?
(Two notes for reporters:
**Such a leader should be able to campaign 24/7 for the next six months. Therefore he/she likely can’t be an engaged parent with little kids.
**Although I’m one of the most conservative members of the Senate, I'm not interested in an ideological purity test, because even a genuine consensus candidate would almost certainly be more conservative than either of the two dishonest liberals now leading the two national parties.)
10.
Imagine if we had a candidate:
...who hadn’t spent his/her life in politics either buying politicians or being bought
…who didn’t want to stitch together a coalition based on anger but wanted to take a whole nation forward
…who pledged to serve for only one term, as a care-taker problem-solver for this messy moment
…who knew that Washington isn’t competent to micromanage the lives of free people, but instead wanted to SERVE by focusing on 3 or 4 big national problems,
such as:
A. A national security strategy for the age of cyber and jihad;
B. Honest budgeting/entitlement reform so that we stop stealing from future generations;
C. Empowering states and local governments to improve K-12 education, and letting Washington figure out how to update federal programs to adjust to now needing lifelong learners in an age where folks are obviously not going to work at a single job for a lifetime anymore; and
D. Retiring career politicians by ending all the incumbency protections, special rules, and revolving door opportunities for folks who should be public “servants,” not masters.
This really shouldn’t be that hard.
The oath I took is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. In brief, that means I’m for limited government.
And there is no reason to believe that either of these two national frontrunners believe in limiting anything about DC’s power.
I believe that most Americans can still be for limited government again -- if they were given a winsome candidate who wanted Washington to focus on a small number of really important, urgent things -- in a way that tried to bring people together instead of driving us apart.
I think there is room – an appetite – for such a candidate.
What am I missing?
More importantly, what are the people at the Fremont Wal-Mart missing?
Because I don’t think they are wrong. They deserve better. They deserve a Congress that tackles the biggest policy problems facing the nation. And they deserve a president who knows that his or her job is not to “reign,” but to serve as commander-in-chief and to “faithfully execute” the laws – not to claim imperial powers to rewrite them with his pen and phone.
The sun is mostly set on the Platte River -- and the kids need baths. So g’night.
Ben
#WeCanDoBetter
#GiveUsMoreChoices
Thanks bro.
So... he's calling for a 3rd party run by conservatives.
Cool. But talk is cheap...
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skyth wrote: Lost me as soon as he started ranting that a concensus candidate would be more conservative than either of the two 'Liberal' front runners. A person that calls Hillary or especially Trump a Liberal has views that have no basis in reality.
Right... 'cuz Hillary is a "Republican" has basis in reality.
Nevermind that more than 60% of GOP primary voters voted against Trump.
skyth wrote: Lost me as soon as he started ranting that a concensus candidate would be more conservative than either of the two 'Liberal' front runners. A person that calls Hillary or especially Trump a Liberal has views that have no basis in reality.
But he trusts that farm town more than some city with learnin'. Farm town Walmart is where good governance is born.
Ben Kenobi has it right:
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2016/05/05 17:20:27
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: Apparently a Trump supporting tow truck driver in South Carolina claimed a Religious Freedom exemption and refused to tow a disabled woman because she was a Bernie supporter.
“He goes around back and comes back and says, ‘I can’t tow you,'” McWade said. “My first instinct was there must be something wrong with the car, and he says, ‘No, you’re a Bernie supporter.’ And I was like, ‘Wait — really?’ And he says, ‘Yes ma’am,’ and just walks away.”
Shupe offered a supernatural explanation for his decision to leave the 25-year-old McWade, who suffers from arthritis and other health conditions, alongside I-26.
“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and He just said, ‘Get in the truck and leave,'” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”
The Donald Trump supporter then offered a more earthly explanation for stranding the customer....
While he has the legal right to refuse service, if he worked for a company and I was his boss I'd fire thats son of a faster than you can say get off my property you trash*
*Frazzled's new favorite phrase last shouted into the face of his trash neighbor saturday.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/05/05 17:26:59
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Dang....Trump would provide more entertainment then Bush did as POTUS...was mention though...2nd season of Firefly to come around....
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We're like the "Mob" of Ancient Rome. Provide us entertainment!
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2016/05/05 17:39:49
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
He 'may' have had the legal right to refuse service, but he shouldn't have the ability to. Tow trucks are actors of public safety (especially in this case where the woman had health issues).
2016/05/05 17:52:18
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
skyth wrote: He 'may' have had the legal right to refuse service, but he shouldn't have the ability to. Tow trucks are actors of public safety (especially in this case where the woman had health issues).
-They aren't actors of public safety (even the police have no duty to protect you and they work for you)
-Why is it lefties always want to force people to do something, instead of properly calling his phone line 5,000 times with why he should be fired.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
5000pts 
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faster than you can say get off my property you trash*
