Games Workshop competition - win a space marines height in miniatures

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**Reavsie**

Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

**Verviedi**

A space marine's height? Is a Riptide box thin enough?

**Fango**

Verviedi wrote:
A space marine's height? Is a Riptide box thin enough?

Ha! 7 feet high, stacking boxes one on top of the other on their backs, can include one 'Realms of Battle' product...and various other restrictions... 3 people will get a 'golden ticket' with their online order of at least 65$ US between now and March something (5th?) Excludes all of Australia and New Zealand...because GW hates them,

**Sean_OBrien**

Reavsie wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

Quite possibly illegal in the US. Sweepstakes like this are generally required to be "no purchase necessary" in order to avoid accidently becoming a lottery - which is illegal (barring certain exceptions).

**His Master's Voice**

You're not kidding.

GW is doing a promotion.

The End Times truly are upon us.

**Alpharius**

Fango wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
A space marine's height? Is a Riptide box thin enough?

Ha! 7 feet high, stacking boxes one on top of the other on their backs, can include one 'Realms of Battle' product...and various other restrictions... 3 people will get a 'golden ticket' with their online order of at least 65$ US between now and March something (5th?) Excludes all of Australia and New Zealand...because GW hates them,

7 Feet?

Please!

I'm insisting on an Armored Space Marine Height's worth - ADB Night Lords version too, so 3 meters my friend, 3 meters!!!

**Azreal13**

They're giving 210cm worth away.

I'm 197cm, so I'm now fairly certain I could have been an impressive Space Marine!

**Alpharius**

Once again GW shows they don't even know their own Fluff!

**Wise Guy Sam**

GW have alienated so many of their customers you have a pretty good chance of winning too.

...unless you are me :(

**Steve steveson**

Interesting to see they are making changes. I'm not likely to order anything soon, but it will be interesting what we see next. We have had discounts, stuff in WD, now a competition. Unfortunately I think whatever they do will not be enough for some. For me it's interesting but not what would get me buying more, but it's nice to see changes being made.

Alpharius wrote:
Once again GW shows they don't even know their own Fluff!

No, they have proven the 1 footers correct! (Those who point to the scale on Jes Goodwins picture starting at 1 rather than 0)

Sean_OBrien wrote:
Reavsie wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

Quite possibly illegal in the US. Sweepstakes like this are generally required to be "no purchase necessary" in order to avoid accidently becoming a lottery - which is illegal (barring certain exceptions).

Good thing US law dosn't apply in the UK then.

**Ratius**

Time to buy that Tyrannocyte so.....

**ironicsilence**

I'm sad that GW officially put a nail in the 9 foot tall space marine theories

**Ashiraya**

This 7' madness is clearly in-universe propaganda.

Tau propaganda.

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ironicsilence wrote:
I'm sad that GW officially put a nail in the 9 foot tall space marine theories

Not as long as 'there is no canon' is a thing.

**agnosto**

Sean_OBrien wrote:
Reavsie wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

Quite possibly illegal in the US. Sweepstakes like this are generally required to be "no purchase necessary" in order to avoid accidently becoming a lottery - which is illegal (barring certain exceptions).

Lotteries

The FCC has defined a lottery as “any game, contest or promotion that combines the elements of prize, chance and consideration.” Federal law generally prohibits the broadcast of any advertisement or information concerning a lottery. Advertisements or information about the following activities, however, are permitted:

lotteries conducted by a state acting under the authority of state law, where the advertisement or information is broadcast by a radio or television station licensed to a location in that state or in any other state that conducts such a lottery;
gambling conducted by an Indian tribe pursuant to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act; or
lotteries that are authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the state in which they are conducted, are conducted by a not-for-profit or governmental organization, or are conducted as a promotional activity by a commercial organization and are clearly occasional and ancillary to the primary business of that organization.

Occasional......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Commander Cain**

Now that is actually an awesome little competition!

**Padre**

Fango wrote:
Excludes all of Australia and New Zealand...because GW hates them,

QFT!!!

**Turalon**

Sounds interesting and I want to jump in it, but it may not be legally binding if you win.

/Legalese rant (note I only know law in Canada my line of work relates to business contracts)

In point 4 it states "...The winners will receive the prize within a reasonable time period after claiming their prize."

In Canadian law, a reasonable time is considered too vague of wording to make a binding contract on an offer and would warrant the offer void if the plaintiff tried to make a claim on the reward. So if you win the prize and want GW to mail you the reward and they say they'll send it as in their agreement (online contest rules) but wait, you cannot make a legal claim against them as they did not indicate a delivery date. Ref. Beacock v. Wetter 2006 BCSC aff'd 2008 BCCA.

In all good faith though, I think they would uphold the contest as not to look totally evil.

**Ruglud**

I thought this was an early Aprils Fool, apparently not...

Terms and Conditions
1. Entry is free to all eligible users of the Promoter's website who place an order of £40 or more.
2. To be entered, orders must be received between 7pm (UK time) Friday 30th January and midnight (UK time) Sunday 1st March 2015.
3. 5 randomly selected orders will contain a winning Golden Ticket along with details of how to claim the prize.
4. Each winner will receive a Space Marine’s height (210cm) in Citadel miniatures shipped to them free of charge. Height of a product is measured by laying the boxed product on its back. The winners will receive the prize within a reasonable time period after claiming their prize.
5. Prizes must be chosen from Citadel miniatures available on www.gamesworkshop.com at the time the winner selects their prizes. Products from the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings ranges of miniatures, as well as any limited edition products, are excluded from the prize. For the avoidance of doubt, Citadel Hobby products, audiobooks and publications are excluded from the prize. ‘Realm of Battle’ products are limited to 1 per winner. Reasonable restrictions may be placed on individual product quantities by the Promoter.
6. No cash alternatives will be offered for any of the prizes available. Prizes cannot be returned or exchanged unless faulty.
7. Prizes must be claimed before the end of March 2015.
8. By claiming a prize, winners agree that the Promoter can use their name, place of residence (in the format Rob W of Nottingham, UK) and details of their prize for advertising and promotional purposes. Details of all winners may be published on www.gamesworkshop.com.
9. Only residents of the Countries listed below are eligible to enter this prize draw. Entries from trade partners or employees of the Promoter, their families, agents or any other person connected with the administration of this competition will not be considered. Orders placed by trade partners using the Direct Through Trade service are not eligible for entry. Orders placed through the Australian webstore will not be entered into the competition.
10. The Promoter reserves the right to vary any of these terms and conditions without notice. In such event the Promoter will make reasonable efforts to communicate any change with entrants.
11. The Promoter’s judges' decision is final and no correspondence will be entered into.
12. These rules are governed by the laws of England and any dispute relating to the promotion will be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the English courts. Entry indicates acceptance of the rules as final and legally binding.

Promoter: Games Workshop Limited, Willow Road, Lenton, Nottingham NG7 2WS

Countries: Worldwide excluding the States and Territories of Australia and New Zealand.

Data Protection

Games Workshop Ltd is registered as a Data Controller in the United Kingdom under the Data Protection Act 1998 ("the Act"). The data given as part of this competition will be held and processed under the terms of the Act and in accordance with our duties to the Information Commissioner. We may use that data for communication, administration of the competition, and security purposes.

We will not sell, share or give any information given to us as part of this competition to anyone outside the Games Workshop group of companies without your explicit consent or unless the law permits or requires us to do so. By submitting your personal information you consent to the processing of your personal data as set out above and you confirm that the information is accurate and complete.

**Torga_DW**

I never realized space marines were so short. Take off the armour (which would be adding several inches in height) and they're not much taller than i am. I always thought they were 7' *before* putting the armour on.

**Slayer le boucher**

Thats the problem with scales and GW, they have no fething idea how it works...

Also maybe i'm blind as a freakin bat, but i don't see anywhere what a "promoter" really is...

i mean are you eligible if you order online from home?
Or if your FLGS order it to GW for you?
Or you absolutly have to do it from a GW shop?

**Verviedi**

To the GW store, to buy some Tac Marines...

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

I would so love to win this. And ask for EVERY SISTERS MODEL THEY STILL HAVE. They have no box anymore, so…

**Sean_OBrien**

Steve steveson wrote:
Good thing US law dosn't apply in the UK then.

Sucks when you want to do business in the US...US law always applies...

The lottery issue is a significant one, you can look through the case law relating to it - not to mention State Attorney general complaints (and settlements). I think the last thing GW needs to do is get slapped with 50 or so lawsuits from the various AGs regarding illegal lotteries - with no mention of the potential of a Federal probe.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/ny_cvs.html

agnosto wrote:
Sean_OBrien wrote:
Reavsie wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

Quite possibly illegal in the US. Sweepstakes like this are generally required to be "no purchase necessary" in order to avoid accidently becoming a lottery - which is illegal (barring certain exceptions).

Lotteries

The FCC has defined a lottery as “any game, contest or promotion that combines the elements of prize, chance and consideration.” Federal law generally prohibits the broadcast of any advertisement or information concerning a lottery. Advertisements or information about the following activities, however, are permitted:

lotteries conducted by a state acting under the authority of state law, where the advertisement or information is broadcast by a radio or television station licensed to a location in that state or in any other state that conducts such a lottery;
gambling conducted by an Indian tribe pursuant to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act; or
lotteries that are authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the state in which they are conducted, are conducted by a not-for-profit or governmental organization, or are conducted as a promotional activity by a commercial organization and are clearly occasional and ancillary to the primary business of that organization.

Occasional......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The important part there is the "or lotteries that are authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the state". Most states prohibit these sorts of lotteries. If they are not prohibited, then a commercial organization could do it...but only if they are not already prohibited by state law.

**ninjafiredragon**

Too bad it requires me purchasing 60$ worth of stuff.

**Azreal13**

Even I'm not sure if I'm joking or not when I say this, but maybe they retconned the height of a SM to keep the value of the prize down?

**Snrub**

Countries: Worldwide excluding the States and Territories of Australia and New Zealand.

What? Too expensive to ship down here, eh?

Well it's official. GW are witches.

**Dropbear Victim**

7 feet sounds abit short even for heroic scale. What did they do? Measure a space marine model against a guardsmen and assume the guard is around 5' 4" ?

Fango wrote:
Excludes all of Australia and New Zealand...because GW hates them,

It's Okay. The feelings mutual.

**agnosto**

Sean_OBrien wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
Good thing US law dosn't apply in the UK then.

Sucks when you want to do business in the US...US law always applies...

The lottery issue is a significant one, you can look through the case law relating to it - not to mention State Attorney general complaints (and settlements). I think the last thing GW needs to do is get slapped with 50 or so lawsuits from the various AGs regarding illegal lotteries - with no mention of the potential of a Federal probe.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/ny_cvs.html

agnosto wrote:
Sean_OBrien wrote:
Reavsie wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the site.

Home page of Games Workshop site has the above offer/draw to those that place an order over £40.

Thoughts?

Quite possibly illegal in the US. Sweepstakes like this are generally required to be "no purchase necessary" in order to avoid accidently becoming a lottery - which is illegal (barring certain exceptions).

Lotteries

The FCC has defined a lottery as “any game, contest or promotion that combines the elements of prize, chance and consideration.” Federal law generally prohibits the broadcast of any advertisement or information concerning a lottery. Advertisements or information about the following activities, however, are permitted:

lotteries conducted by a state acting under the authority of state law, where the advertisement or information is broadcast by a radio or television station licensed to a location in that state or in any other state that conducts such a lottery;
gambling conducted by an Indian tribe pursuant to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act; or
lotteries that are authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the state in which they are conducted, are conducted by a not-for-profit or governmental organization, or are conducted as a promotional activity by a commercial organization and are clearly occasional and ancillary to the primary business of that organization.

Occasional......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The important part there is the "or lotteries that are authorized or not otherwise prohibited by the state". Most states prohibit these sorts of lotteries. If they are not prohibited, then a commercial organization could do it...but only if they are not already prohibited by state law.

Yeah, there're only a hand full of states where this is legal which is why, here in the US, it's always " no purchase necessary, void where prohibited by law." Cute GW, you can just declare all the winners to be from the states where your little contest is illegal and just say "well, sorry gents I guess we can't send out those boxes after all...."

**insaniak**

Fango wrote:Excludes all of Australia and New Zealand..,

Reavsie wrote:Thoughts?

feth you, GW?

**Absolutionis**

I'd rather get a guaranteed 20%-30% off GW product rather than throw myself into some lottery. The entry fee for this is paying GW prices. I'm really surprised people actually think this promotional is worthwhile.