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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 02:15:58
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the Necron VSG !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 02:41:28
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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He isn't kidding anyone... He is going to play the 5 hive tyrant list. Otherwise he wouldn't have painted the other two hive tyrants in time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 06:39:41
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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So.... Can Void Shields take cover saves? What about invul saves, say from a KFF? o_O
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2015-2016 GT Record
Iron Halo GT - 1st Place
Bay Area Open 2016 - 2nd Place
WAAAGHFEST 2016 - 1st Place
Flying Monkey 2016 - 1st Place
Adepticon 2016 - 2nd Place
Renegade GT 2015 - 1st Overall / 2nd General
Dragonfall GT 2015 - 1st Place
Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake. -Chessmaster Tartakower |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 06:46:56
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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pfff, seriously?
non of these should be possible Void shields are a save and nothing more.
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You have ruled this galaxy for ten thousand years
Yet have little of account to show for your efforts
Order. Unity. Obedience.
We taught the galaxy these things
And we shall do so again.
4500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 15:45:32
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Dakka Veteran
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No benefits from anything for the shields and they aren't targeted. But other than that each vsg is pretty much like a av12 transport that holds your entire army. With iwnd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 15:55:09
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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Fxeni wrote:So.... Can Void Shields take cover saves? What about invul saves, say from a KFF? o_O
What the other guys said.
It's a special case kind of like markerlights. You get no cover against markerlights because they don't cause any wounds. Only with void shields, it is the other way around. The VS has no wounds or hull points to lose and is not an actual unit so it doesn't get any cover saves (nor does it get Invuln saves).
Thanks!
Darkwynn wrote:He isn't kidding anyone... He is going to play the 5 hive tyrant list. Otherwise he wouldn't have painted the other two hive tyrants in time
Or maybe I finished it so that I have the option of running it? If my army wasn't done, then there wouldn't be a choice at all as to which army I could run.
BTW, good luck Nick. Hope you get past your 1st round opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 17:48:04
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just depends on how much he hides behind a Void shield generator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 18:26:22
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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You mean the generator that is going to make your Eldar cry? Nah, it's just a launching pad for my metallic shrimps and alien birds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 21:00:42
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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ha I am so not playing Eldar. Farthest from it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 21:04:03
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Good for you Nick !!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 21:43:55
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Huge Hierodule
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Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 23:18:37
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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nah it will throw a lot of people off . I will tell you that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/18 23:32:37
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Deathwing FTW?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 01:24:08
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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Expect the unexpected. I like that! Looking forwards to the challenge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 03:26:29
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Huge Hierodule
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Well Jy2 I look forward to game summaries from the event. Good luck this weekend.
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Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 04:12:47
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks tetris! Leaving tomorrow. Can't wait!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 08:05:37
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Powerful Ushbati
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So my solution for the VSG is Gauss. My regular warriors can bring it down from range. I thought about including a VSG in my list for the 40k champs at adepticon but I found it had too many counters and that I would try to depend on it to much. It is good but for 100 points I am not sure I need it.
As for the cloak and dagger list.... we have always been forward about are list selections... what has changed now? haha
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 09:14:09
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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I predict that necrons (some flavor of) will take it. I also predict orks will place in the top 4!
(predictions about great ork placement void in reality).
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warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!
8k points
3k points
3k points
Admech 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 14:01:01
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Because it doesn't build excitement and anticipation tomb !, duh
I am playing blood Angels, If that helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 15:57:35
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tomb King wrote:So my solution for the VSG is Gauss. My regular warriors can bring it down from range. I thought about including a VSG in my list for the 40k champs at adepticon but I found it had too many counters and that I would try to depend on it to much. It is good but for 100 points I am not sure I need it.
As for the cloak and dagger list.... we have always been forward about are list selections... what has changed now? haha
So you want to open your Christmas present early, huh? Haha...I prefer opening my Christmas presents on Christmas day, even if I basically know what it is. A little anticipation and a little mystery to keep my potential opponents on their toes.
Orock wrote:I predict that necrons (some flavor of) will take it. I also predict orks will place in the top 4!
(predictions about great ork placement void in reality).
Not Tyranids? Hmmm....judging from what I've been hearing at the more recent tournaments (TSHFT and Caledonian), I expect to see some flavor of Leviathan in one way, shape, form or another.
Darkwynn wrote:Because it doesn't build excitement and anticipation tomb !, duh
I am playing blood Angels, If that helps.
Oooooh....then my good sir, you will have me at a slight disadvantage.
I have not played the new Blood Angels, nor have I even read their new codex yet! I have no idea how competitive the new BA can be. Lol. I suspect it will be quite a learning experience for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 18:05:10
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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20 bucks says he takes the fluff killer list.
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2015-2016 GT Record
Iron Halo GT - 1st Place
Bay Area Open 2016 - 2nd Place
WAAAGHFEST 2016 - 1st Place
Flying Monkey 2016 - 1st Place
Adepticon 2016 - 2nd Place
Renegade GT 2015 - 1st Overall / 2nd General
Dragonfall GT 2015 - 1st Place
Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake. -Chessmaster Tartakower |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 18:15:57
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Darkwynn wrote:Because it doesn't build excitement and anticipation tomb !, duh
I am playing blood Angels, If that helps.
Good on you - can't wait to see your build !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/19 19:11:54
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I'd take that bet, except that's what I voted for (and what I think he'll take). It is less susceptible to hard counters and presents difficult (unfamiliar) choices to the opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 11:50:24
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Powerful Ushbati
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Personally I dont think the fluff killer is his best build. It will have issues against a couple of builds that I can already think up. It is hard to make a complete TAC in the current meta.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 15:16:15
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ok guys, the wait is over. The army that I will be running will be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 15:41:34
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I knew it - good luck Jim !!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 16:28:35
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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Ha! Someone shoulda taken me up on my offer! I'd be out 20 bucks.
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2015-2016 GT Record
Iron Halo GT - 1st Place
Bay Area Open 2016 - 2nd Place
WAAAGHFEST 2016 - 1st Place
Flying Monkey 2016 - 1st Place
Adepticon 2016 - 2nd Place
Renegade GT 2015 - 1st Overall / 2nd General
Dragonfall GT 2015 - 1st Place
Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake. -Chessmaster Tartakower |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 16:30:13
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Powerful Ushbati
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jy2 wrote:Ok guys, the wait is over. The army that I will be running will be
That is a good choice and best of luck. IMO that list would slaughter your fluff killer list. Also knights would of given you hell on the fluff killer list.
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TK - 2012 40K GT Record 18-5
4th in 2nd bracket Feast of Blades 2012 (IG/SoB); 4th Overall Midwest Massacre (IG/SW); 5th Overall Indy Open (IG); Final 16 Adepticon Open (IG)
TK - 2013 40K GT Record 24-4
Best General Indy Open (Crons/CSM)
Top 5! Bugeater GT (TauDar)
Final 4 Nova Invitational (Eldau)
Best Overall Midwest Massacre (Crons/CSM)
TK- 2014 to Date: http://www.torrentoffire.com/rankings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 17:30:58
Subject: 1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kinda disappointed in the army you picked. Mostly because if you do well it means more people will play FMC, and FMC aren't really fun to play against especially in more casual games. But good luck, will still root for you to bring it home.
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:37:47
Subject: Re:1850 Jy2's Las Vegas Open Experience - More Fluff-Killer Practice Games on p.6
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Regular Dakkanaut
NYC, Philadelphia
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The competitiveness of the five Flyrant build has been a hot topic since it became possible...should be very interesting to see how it fares in the hands of a quality general among top competition over a multi-round tournament. Best of luck!
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