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KingCracker wrote: But....... people have already given a few swords to fit that criteria. You're asking for opinions, you need to accept that others opinions will differ.
Also, a mace with trump a sword any day IMO. Armor? Who cares. Precision? Don't need it. Speed? Block with shield, bash with mace. Speed and skill go out the window when my mace crushes your shoulder to dust. Armor or not I win.
NO they haven't giving me a sword that fit that criteria. Long Sword and such were good combat weapon, but do not have the superior speed or cutter power of a Katana, not to mention the control.
Sabers? Anyone?! Pretty sure I remember that discussion a bit back
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curran12 wrote: So two of your things for fanboying the katana, speed and precision, are measures solely of the user and not the weapon. As for cutting, it's firmly average only really shining against an unarmored target which is a fantasy in any medical fight. What you're saying is that the katana is only best if a lot of conditions allow it to be best. You might as well be saying "the katana is great against tied up naked people, therefore it's the best!"
Fist, i hate comparing fighting style because it is subjective. We can only compare the tools that we have. If all fighters of the weapons were the same skills, then ok... lets move on to the next point.
What els can we measure a weapon other than it
speed
power (cutting and thrusting)
control
if all those three things got good marks... you bet this weapons is excellent for a skilled user.
The naked part... you know that a Katana is the best sword for beheading right? I would choose a Katana over other swords for execution. In fact, it is the only sword in the world that in the hand of an expert executioner (control) can behead a person and leave enough neck skin to hold the head from dropping to the ground. This is not a fantasy... but true event.
So yeah man.. it is good than human can invent a blade that has power and control to make cuts like this and it is nice to know and understand what that blade is and what it is call... a Katana.
It doesn't have the power against any type of metal armor. Thus the speed and control are useless. You need all 3 in combination to have a good weapon.
And as far as speed and control is concerned, a rapier has the katana beat on that as well. Its also better at penetration to boot.
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OK, fighting.... Katana were invented to fight armor less or very little armor opponent in Asia. Checked.. good weapon.
Any weapon is good against unarmored opponents. I mean..come on. Even with a mace, I only need a single hit to kill or at the very least incapacitate you. I could incapacitate you with the single strike of a broomstick.
What are you talking about that Katana won't hurt you and a long sword will hurt you. They are both swords! You think that long sword will break your rib in the armor, but a katana won't? Both weapons weight almost the same and, infact... Katana will have more of an impact hit because it is two-handed. Also, a Katana has a deeper armor penetration thrust vs. a long sword. Any damage a long sword can do, Katana can do better because of a sharper blade and two handed.
Eh...what? First of all, how is wielding it two-handed be an argument for the katana? That's a wielder's choice...and has nothing to do with the weapon itself...and even if we do want to compare, go for a Zweihander. Suddenly, you're looking at a major increase in power with the Zweihander vastly outpowering the katana by so much that it's not even funny. 1 hit, you're done for. Armor? Doesn't matter. Hit, down.
Secondly, a katana is not significantally sharper than a longsword. Full stop. Not to mention that there is no "grade of sharpness" for weapons. In theory, there is, but a sharpened weapon is a sharpened weapon. And again: can't cut through armor? What use does the sharpness then have? Better at cutting fish for sushi, I guess.
Thirdly: Katanas have zero armor penetration. Zero.
Fourthly: two-handedness can be a major disadvantage. A Zweihander counters lack of protection by having insane hitting power. A Katana doesn't. I usually use an axe and a shield and you would not have the slightet chance with a katana. You helpless against the shield, you cannot parry the hits and you could not get past my armor. That's not even situational as a chainmail is an extremely basic piece of equipment.
Seriously guys, take the speed ouf of the equation. It means nothing. Training beats theory.
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
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Congrats, you've got the best weapon against a man who is tied down to an executioners block.
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
Again, Katana has control.
Why would precision like that matter in an execution? You don't. Besides I'm pretty sure the guillotine beats out beheadings on all weapons handedly
The Katana is a work of art, exception for cheap gimic wall hangers. however those who think it bthe best sword are missing one vital piece of information: THERE IS NO BEST SWORD.
Sword design is a tradeoff, straight versus curved blade, longer versus shorter, hilt shapes have tradeoffs, pommel size and weight, crossguard shape, all are tradeoffs. One can have a favourite blade, one can even have a blade that is best of a users personal fighting style, but there is no best sword.
yes there are good swords and mediocre swords and bad swords, but manufacturing technique and materials count for that. A Katana can be a fine weapon, but for utility there are advantages in a modern era field rapier. with regards to technique Japanese swordcrafting expertise is important, but then so was Saxon which was equivalent quality Japanese folded their paired sword blanks, Saxons twisted theirs. With regards to location Damascus steel or Toledo steel are a distinct advantage, but said materials can be imported and in the modern day reinforced artificially with such materials ars titanium or tungsten each of which brings something distinct and different to the blade.
'Katana haters' arent really a problem, as for a start those who realise the Katana is not the be all and end all of swordcraft are on the way to an educated opinion. Most will learn the Katana is a fine example of swordcraft but.... rather than assume it is flatly inferior.
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I see where this is going... you guys got me to debate katana...
Some of you guys are all over the place arguing about katana.
Rule number one, I call it dagger vs. sword. meaning that both weapons are good at what it is design for. Sword will be better vs. dagger in most situation. The key is Most. Dagger will beat a sword if the fight is underwater or in very very close quarter like wresting situation.
So don't dagger v. sword me about katana vs. mace or situational like vs. armor.
All weapons are situational.
That being said. I do not claim Katana is the best at everything. I mean.. you guys think Katana is worst at everything... come on.. that is silly.
I will claim Katana is best at somethings and I'll point them out again. Now if you want to argue, then argue about what I am clamming and don't break rule one again.
Here is my claim. If other sword can do just as good, then don't argue about it. I never said Katana is the only sword that can do this...
Katana is the best sword at:
Sharpest / power cutting ability
Speed
Control
Just those 3.
Rapier has better speed, but lack cutting.
Claymore lack the control and speed, but got the same power of force over sharpest
Saber has almost the same attribute of a Katana and I might consider it as equal, but because it is one handed... it lack the cutter power and control compare to Katana. However, I consider it as a one handed Katana or a Katana a two-handed saber.
Don't debate about which is a better weapon because they are all weapons and all swords has been tested in battles and they are all good. We now only can only judge them as tools of war and which tool is better at doing what.
If you can come up with a sword that has those 3 categories better than a Katana, then that sword is a better sword.
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One vs two hands is not an example of control. And the Katana is not a true two handed sword, the No-dachi is a true japanese two handed sword. The Katana could be wielded in either one or two hands. But you don't need two hands for control, its just another way to use it.
With a rapier you can always put your attack where you want it. It has suburb control.
And again, the katana has no cutting power except against bare flesh.
Speed, sure, but its no better at this than dozens of other swords.
In all categories that are the Katana's strength, the Katana is decidedly average vs other weapons.
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If you really are looking for the best cutting sword, see what the best swordsmiths made out of the finest designs Africa could distill from the lessons of Eastern and Western schools.
I give you the unrefined, ungrateful punk offspring of the scimitar, raised in the backroads of Europe since the first Crusades up until the 16th century. The falchion. This was the sword the Europeans made to hack limbs, slice through armor, and generally ruin the day of anyone that they ran into. The tremendous advantage of the one hand models is, of course that they would still allow the use of a shield.
Fun additional fact- at the Battle of the Nations, this has become a very popular sword primarily because of the handguard- when an opponent closes, you have the equivalent of brass knuckles on from the handguard, and just punch them in the face.
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KingCracker wrote: Agreed with that completely, you lot proved that concept for centuries! But we are talking close combat, unless you're that danish Archer that boggles my mind, the bow is out of this discussion I think lol
Didn't samurai usually wield bows? I remember reading something to that effect.
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Katana's aren't two handed weapons, they are One and half handers like a longsword. Daikatana's are two handed.
Also, Sharpest/power cutting. Zweihander would beat that easily. Falchions too because of the weight and shape.
Speed, rapiers, short swords, sabres, all faster and better for thrusting.
Control, this "attribute" needs some clarification, if you are talking about how well you can aim your weapon, a lot of this is based on user ability, not the weapon. If you base it purely on weapon, rapiers and shortswords once again take this.
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
Again, Katana has control.
Why would precision like that matter in an execution? You don't. Besides I'm pretty sure the guillotine beats out beheadings on all weapons handedly
Art dude....the art of death and respect for the dead.. I don't feel like educating the Japanese culture of execution.
It is like asking why have different size paintbrush for painting your miniature.
Katana is a work of art, we finally have a sword that can cut with such a control and a tool that powerful should be respected and not mocked.
KingCracker wrote: Agreed with that completely, you lot proved that concept for centuries! But we are talking close combat, unless you're that danish Archer that boggles my mind, the bow is out of this discussion I think lol
Didn't samurai usually wield bows? I remember reading something to that effect.
They did. It was usually bows and polearms on the battlefield. Bows were to cut down the worthless peasants and soften the enemy up. Polearms for actually fighting armored opponents. The katana was ceremonial and a dueling weapon.
Peasants got bows, spears, etc...
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
Again, Katana has control.
Why would precision like that matter in an execution? You don't. Besides I'm pretty sure the guillotine beats out beheadings on all weapons handedly
Art dude....the art of death and respect for the dead.. I don't feel like educating the Japanese culture of execution.
It is like asking why have different size paintbrush for painting your miniature.
Katana is a work of art, we finally have a sword that can cut with such a control and a tool that powerful should be respected and not mocked.
Again, this control thing you keep bringing up is not very important. Its more of a product of training and not the sword itself. If we're talking just the aspects the sword gives, then rapiers beat the katana on this one so hard its not even funny.
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
Again, Katana has control.
Why would precision like that matter in an execution? You don't. Besides I'm pretty sure the guillotine beats out beheadings on all weapons handedly
Art dude....the art of death and respect for the dead.. I don't feel like educating the Japanese culture of execution.
It is like asking why have different size paintbrush for painting your miniature.
Katana is a work of art, we finally have a sword that can cut with such a control and a tool that powerful should be respected and not mocked.
Again, this control thing you keep bringing up is not very important. Its more of a product of training and not the sword itself. If we're talking just the aspects the sword gives, then rapiers beat the katana on this one so hard its not even funny.
Not to mention art is very subjective. So it's now in same category he threw out earlier.... wielders skill. Also you can't use " it kills with artistic awesomeness!! " as a counter point.
Katana is the best sword at:
Sharpest / power cutting ability
Speed - ridiculour
Control
Sharpest / power cutting ability - a scimitar has very similar cutting ability and a Damascus steel scimitar is a quality piece,
Speed - Pfiffle, poppycock, speed ia a factor of the user. The only advantage the Katana holds is the formal martial arts moves whicvh have been preserved for the current day. You can use a Katana fast draw and strike technique with a scimitar, though not from personal experience. As far as strike speed is concerned, I would consider the gladius to be faster
Control - Again a smaller blade has more control, gladius again being a fine example here.
Just those 3.
Rapier has better speed, but lack cutting.
Claymore lack the control and speed, but got the same power of force over sharpest
Saber has almost the same attribute of a Katana and I might consider it as equal, but because it is one handed... it lack the cutter power and control compare to Katana. However, I consider it as a one handed Katana or a Katana a two-handed saber.
The field rapier works on the doctrine that the point is more effective than the edge. With regards to wound dynamics this is true. Puncture woulds are more lethal than slashing cut iof a similar size and force. A slashing weapon needs size to make up for the effectiveness of a thrusting weapon. The field rapier was designed as the best all rounder, and in this it is superior to a Katana, however again there is not best sword.
It's length plus mode of use gives it extra reach, and while its cutting edge is generally inferior to a curved blade it can get the job done.
Claymore are worthless junk weapons, way too heavy. The only two handed western weapons I would recommend as good designs are the longsword and the zwerch.. At Culloden claymore armed Scots clansmen died to bayonet armed soldiers in line combat even though the latter had less formal training.
The sabre is designed for mounted use, and is a better weapon for slashing while mounted, its a specialist blade. Its a good fencing weapon and parries well, but other foot weapons are better suited.
If you can come up with a sword that has those 3 categories better than a Katana, then that sword is a better sword.
No you cant, as the tradeoff applies.
However modern minds have thought of this and the only sword to last long in to the gunpowder era was the field rapier. I can find you at least three categories where it is "better" than the katana.
1. Reach - its technique allows a rapier to he held at arms length plus its own, this gives reach similar to a spear in optimum circumstances.
2. Penetration - as a thrusting weapon it can find holes in good armour, or strike eyes or armpits.
3. Protection - the basket hilt of a field rapier offers superior protection in a sliding parry
4. Ruggedness - the quillon reduced weight but the much wider rear edge is good for blocking on the parry. The cross section of a katana has no quillon and the rear of the blade is quite narrow and relatively fragile.
5. Parrying in general - Katanas were designed for the quick kill, and not parrying combat, as the rapier has superior reach and superior parry then assuming the combatants are equal has the advantage over the katana armed opponent.
If I wanted to make the best sword I could possibly use I would go with the modern left handed field rapier as the optimised tradeoff, add a swordbreaker at the rear of the blade at the crossguard, make the main shaft out of erodeproofed titanium steel for extra strength. I would prefer a coarse screwed headpiece fitted to the tang and use modern materials for the grip.
I would still likely lose, as the wielder is the most important component
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Grey Templar wrote: One vs two hands is not an example of control. And the Katana is not a true two handed sword, the No-dachi is a true japanese two handed sword. The Katana could be wielded in either one or two hands. But you don't need two hands for control, its just another way to use it.
With a rapier you can always put your attack where you want it. It has suburb control.
And again, the katana has no cutting power except against bare flesh.
Speed, sure, but its no better at this than dozens of other swords.
In all categories that are the Katana's strength, the Katana is decidedly average vs other weapons.
I know, but with two hand ... you gain much more control. when I say control, I mean the weapon is like a brush stroke.
Like zero marking z with his rapier. Katana can make slice like that. I don't think you can do that with a Claymore.
You can't two hand a rapier right.
You keep saying Katana has no cutting power against bare flesh... what other 3 lb sword can do better than a Katana? This is breaking rule one again.
So you haven't give me a sword that can do the 3 things better than a Katana. You have some better at this , but worst at other stuff. This is why I said it many times that every weapons is a tool and is situational. If you know Katana at what it does, it is the best in that categories. Give me a better sword that outshine all 3 of that categories. If a rapier got better control and speed, but lack cutting sharpness.. then it is not better than Katana.. just different. Do you not understand this?
I loath Deadliest Warrior but this does illustrate the power of the Kilij. Its actually got cutting power against armor because its heavier, and you MUST have weight not just sharpness to do actual killing.
You are basically trying to say the katana is best when everything is perfect, no armor, no actual fighting, etc...
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KingCracker wrote: ERM..... I'm pretty sure a claymore would best your beheading comment
Both claymore and Katana can do the job... but what about control and precision? My example of executioner who leave the neck skin on... a Claymore is a heavy weapon that you can't control the cut... you wack it and done with it.
Again, Katana has control.
Why would precision like that matter in an execution? You don't. Besides I'm pretty sure the guillotine beats out beheadings on all weapons handedly
Art dude....the art of death and respect for the dead.. I don't feel like educating the Japanese culture of execution.
It is like asking why have different size paintbrush for painting your miniature.
Katana is a work of art, we finally have a sword that can cut with such a control and a tool that powerful should be respected and not mocked.
Again, this control thing you keep bringing up is not very important. Its more of a product of training and not the sword itself. If we're talking just the aspects the sword gives, then rapiers beat the katana on this one so hard its not even funny.
Not to mention art is very subjective. So it's now in same category he threw out earlier.... wielders skill. Also you can't use " it kills with artistic awesomeness!! " as a counter point.
Look man... yeah skill is important. However, to use that skill... you need a tool to go with it. To cut like that, you need a cutting weapon (no rapier) and must be two handed for perfect control cut/slice and razor sharp edge.
Back to square one... the sharpest and control cut blade is a Katana. There is a reason why doctor use scalpel and not butcher knife for operation. Katana is like a scalpel weapon, a long sword can't be use like that. It is too impossible.
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And a scalpel is basically useless on the battlefield where you are facing metal armor.
It being the best scalpel sword is a pretty useless thing to be "best" at. to be a good weapon it needs to be able to deal with armor and be able to be used effectively. The Katana can't deal with armor. Thus its a poor weapon.
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Katana is the best sword at:
Sharpest / power cutting ability
Speed - ridiculour
Control
Sharpest / power cutting ability - a scimitar has very similar cutting ability and a Damascus steel scimitar is a quality piece,
Speed - Pfiffle, poppycock, speed ia a factor of the user. The only advantage the Katana holds is the formal martial arts moves whicvh have been preserved for the current day. You can use a Katana fast draw and strike technique with a scimitar, though not from personal experience. As far as strike speed is concerned, I would consider the gladius to be faster
Control - Again a smaller blade has more control, gladius again being a fine example here.
Just those 3.
Rapier has better speed, but lack cutting.
Claymore lack the control and speed, but got the same power of force over sharpest
Saber has almost the same attribute of a Katana and I might consider it as equal, but because it is one handed... it lack the cutter power and control compare to Katana. However, I consider it as a one handed Katana or a Katana a two-handed saber.
The field rapier works on the doctrine that the point is more effective than the edge. With regards to wound dynamics this is true. Puncture woulds are more lethal than slashing cut iof a similar size and force. A slashing weapon needs size to make up for the effectiveness of a thrusting weapon. The field rapier was designed as the best all rounder, and in this it is superior to a Katana, however again there is not best sword.
It's length plus mode of use gives it extra reach, and while its cutting edge is generally inferior to a curved blade it can get the job done.
Claymore are worthless junk weapons, way too heavy. The only two handed western weapons I would recommend as good designs are the longsword and the zwerch.. At Culloden claymore armed Scots clansmen died to bayonet armed soldiers in line combat even though the latter had less formal training.
The sabre is designed for mounted use, and is a better weapon for slashing while mounted, its a specialist blade. Its a good fencing weapon and parries well, but other foot weapons are better suited.
If you can come up with a sword that has those 3 categories better than a Katana, then that sword is a better sword.
No you cant, as the tradeoff applies.
However modern minds have thought of this and the only sword to last long in to the gunpowder era was the field rapier. I can find you at least three categories where it is "better" than the katana.
1. Reach - its technique allows a rapier to he held at arms length plus its own, this gives reach similar to a spear in optimum circumstances.
2. Penetration - as a thrusting weapon it can find holes in good armour, or strike eyes or armpits.
3. Protection - the basket hilt of a field rapier offers superior protection in a sliding parry
4. Ruggedness - the quillon reduced weight but the much wider rear edge is good for blocking on the parry. The cross section of a katana has no quillon and the rear of the blade is quite narrow and relatively fragile.
5. Parrying in general - Katanas were designed for the quick kill, and not parrying combat, as the rapier has superior reach and superior parry then assuming the combatants are equal has the advantage over the katana armed opponent.
If I wanted to make the best sword I could possibly use I would go with the modern left handed field rapier as the optimised tradeoff, add a swordbreaker at the rear of the blade at the crossguard, make the main shaft out of erodeproofed titanium steel for extra strength. I would prefer a coarse screwed headpiece fitted to the tang and use modern materials for the grip.
I would still likely lose, as the wielder is the most important component
Thus why I said Katana has its' niche and superior at its' niche.
Why are you arguing with me by breaking my rule 1 or saying that other weapons are just as good as Katana. Didn't I already explain that?
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Being good at a niche is meaningless. We're looking at if in general it was a good sword, and it wasn't.
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Soladrin wrote: No, it isn't. Katanas didn't have the best steel so it wouldn't be sharpest regardless.
they were pretty sharp actually, razor sharp. But thats not a good quality for a sword to have. Because the sharper a point gets the more brittle it becomes, and the fast it will wear down or chip.
You want a wedge, not a razor blade.
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Grey Templar wrote: And a scalpel is basically useless on the battlefield where you are facing metal armor.
It being the best scalpel sword is a pretty useless thing to be "best" at. to be a good weapon it needs to be able to deal with armor and be able to be used effectively. The Katana can't deal with armor. Thus its a poor weapon.
wow... that is a dumb statement.
Anything that is best is best at that. Best.
A Katana is better than most sword and is still at worst a sword. A Katana is never lesser than a long sword, so if you say Long Sword is a poor weapon.. then I can respect your opinion. Another than that, you are very bias.
So a Katana is a battle ready sword that can do scalpel cut is a poor weapon? It is just as good as a long sword, but can do scalpel cut...and you consider a poor weapon. Yeah, you make a lot of sense.
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Sure, its a pretty good weapon for slicing flesh. But thats it, and its never going to get through to that flesh if it can't deal with armor.
A longsword has the mass to actually deal with armor. So yes, it is better than a katana as a weapon.
You're focusing so hard on its ability to cut when it is fatally flawed in so many other aspects.
and try to make your sentences coherent, it was tough to decipher that last post.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
