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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 06:32:09
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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http://news.yahoo.com/california-university-student-council-passes-bill-ban-flags-044503928.html
California university student council passes bill to ban flags
(Reuters) - The student council of a southern California university passed a bill that would ban the hanging of any national flag in the common area of student government offices, school officials said on Friday.
The measure, passed by six undergraduates on the University of California at Irvine's student legislative council, said that national flags bear a range of cultural significances that could be interpreted negatively by some.
The resolution added that national flags - citing the United States flag in particular - have been "flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism" and "serve as symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism."
"Freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible can be interpreted as hate speech," the bill said.
The Executive Cabinet of the school's student government will meet on Saturday to discuss vetoing the bill, Associated Students of UCI President Reza Zomorrodian said in a statement.
"I stand firmly against this piece of legislation, though I understand the authors intent and supporters intent, I disagree with the solution the council has come to," Zomorrodian said, adding that the bill was not supported by campus leadership.
The Los Angeles Times reported that if vetoed, the bill would return to the legislative council where it would have to be passed by a two-thirds majority to override the rejection.
A post on the university's Facebook page on Friday made light of the bill reading in part, "Contrary to what you might be hearing, flags are still flying at UC Irvine," alongside a picture of the American flag. Many of the more than 350 comments on the post decried the bill.
(Reporting by Curtis Skinner in San Francisco; Editing by Robert Birsel)
More Political Correctness gone off the deep end.
Seriously? You're gonna claim our flag is so offensive it needs to be censored? Hope the Cabinet vetoes these little twerps idea.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 06:35:58
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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The student council at my school was equally weird. We had this big fancy student union building with loads of rooms that no one ever used for anything. What did the student council (they ran the union) decide to do? Build more rooms...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 06:47:26
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The Fox News perspective.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/06/students-at-uc-irvine-vote-to-ban-american-flag/
Overly dramatic as always, but they're not exactly wrong in this case.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 06:51:00
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Huge Hierodule
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LordofHats wrote:The student council at my school was equally weird. We had this big fancy student union building with loads of rooms that no one ever used for anything. What did the student council (they ran the union) decide to do? Build more rooms...
I would honestly be more surprised if they actually weren't crazy. Where I am (U of A), one guy just got bumped from elections for election fraud, after running his entire campaign off sharing his name with a brand of beer, and a guy called "Omni-bot" is in first place.
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Q: What do you call a Dinosaur Handpuppet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 06:52:49
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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How exactly is that Fraud? Dumb and unimaginative sure, but its not exactly fraud.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 07:00:15
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Hey, we also had a bunch of UCs pass resolutions to stop all business relations with any Israel based company, because they have an understanding of middle eastern politics as deeps as... something that's not very deep. They're not the sharpest tools in the proverbial shed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 07:06:57
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I guess this now the "stupid things university students do" thread.
Can't think of anything stupid for my university right now. One awesome thing: We're one of the lucky universities having a premier of Game of Thrones season 5!
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 07:27:12
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Well, UC stands for University of California, so it's the same general group. Pretty sure they still burn bras and whenever they go out to protest a war, they just use white out on the sign to update the name.
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I am the Hammer. I am the right hand of my Emperor. I am the tip of His spear, I am the gauntlet about His fist. I am the woes of daemonkind. I am the Hammer. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 10:00:10
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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DarkLink wrote:Well, UC stands for University of California, so it's the same general group. Pretty sure they still burn bras and whenever they go out to protest a war, they just use white out on the sign to update the name.
nope, white out is expensive, they just cross it out and make it samller.
yesterday against the tuition hikes, ucsc had a massive protest where students blocked the entrances to campus. Now the sc busses have several routes going threw campus, so what do they do? busses stopped running near campus. I had to walk 4 miles around the picket lines to get a bus. Because of it Too, no food was on campus and all classes closed. So yeah, screw over the students. The best one was where the students sat and obstructed a highway, gotvarrested, and suspended for two weeks before finals. And now they have a felony on record making them I eligible for financial aid.
Remember out uc. We are not as stupid as we seem. It's a small minority the rest hate too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 10:47:42
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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The measure, passed by six undergraduates on the University of California at Irvine's student legislative council, said that national flags bear a range of cultural significances that could be interpreted negatively by some.
SO. FETHING. WHAT??? You do not have the right to not be offended. Let's face it, this was likely passed to ban one specific flag. No, not the American flag, but the flag of Israel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 11:04:27
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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I don't give a gak what six U. of Cali undergrads have to say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 11:06:34
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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H.B.M.C. wrote:The measure, passed by six undergraduates on the University of California at Irvine's student legislative council, said that national flags bear a range of cultural significances that could be interpreted negatively by some.
SO. FETHING. WHAT???
You do not have the right to not be offended.
On political correctness you do.
'I am offended' is a good way to get the police, let alone students, to crack down on something legal in the UK.
It only works if you have a minority status of some kind.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:01:37
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Huge Hierodule
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Grey Templar wrote:How exactly is that Fraud? Dumb and unimaginative sure, but its not exactly fraud.
My mistake- the fraud was completely unrelated, it's just another example of "Crazy"
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Q: What do you call a Dinosaur Handpuppet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:03:14
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Extremely liberal students at the age where they know everything located in a liberal state doing an extremely liberal thing? I am shocked!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:05:32
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Communists plain and simple.
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:06:21
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Seems like banning a flag is the exact opposite of being liberal.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:10:17
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It is if you do it for liberal reasons!
(Or something like that...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:14:05
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The key quote from that article is
Fox News wrote:“It’s an attack on American values,” he said. “A lot of people want to come to the United States for a reason – it’s because of the freedoms we have.”
You spit out about freedom but You DON'T have the freedom to have a vote on a flag?
I'm hating Fox News more and more and more, honestly, the stereotype of "Overly patriotic, racist, nationalist, f* heads" is all down to Fox News.
I love you Americans though, just so you know.
And I see why this is an issue and it's annoyed people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:19:35
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Didn't a student union at another California school (UCLA I think) just recently try and prevent a qualified girl from joining their board because she was a Jew?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:23:55
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I remember when My RA said she supported saying what you thought and your freedom of expression. She then said to report hate speech and anything the violates that freedom of exxpression
Hypocrisy is big on UC campuses. But the main students body, even those in humanities. Are just there to get degrees and try to get a living, dont lump us all together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:24:16
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sometimes I think that college is just a secret plan to contain teenagers for 4 years while they get the stupid out of their system.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 18:52:07
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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cincydooley wrote:Didn't a student union at another California school (UCLA I think) just recently try and prevent a qualified girl from joining their board because she was a Jew?
If its the article I'm thinking of, it was about a question the person got on the entrance exam. Its was basically "As a Jew who is active in the Jewish community, how can you expect to remain unbiased?"
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 19:09:51
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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The only student government issues at my alma mater that I can remember are:
1. The request for more funding for a program that employed people to walk lone students home after a certain hour.
2. The bitter fight to prevent the administration from moving away from need-blind admissions, which drew a lot of outside funding.
There's almost certainly some nonsense issues that came up as well, but they weren't significant enough for me to care. Much as this flag "issue" is likely to be for most Irvine students.
Grey Templar wrote: cincydooley wrote:Didn't a student union at another California school (UCLA I think) just recently try and prevent a qualified girl from joining their board because she was a Jew?
If its the article I'm thinking of, it was about a question the person got on the entrance exam. Its was basically "As a Jew who is active in the Jewish community, how can you expect to remain unbiased?"
It followed a discussion of whether or not the University should support corporations which it claims to be complicit in the occupation of the West Bank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 19:28:55
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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hotsauceman1 wrote: DarkLink wrote:Well, UC stands for University of California, so it's the same general group. Pretty sure they still burn bras and whenever they go out to protest a war, they just use white out on the sign to update the name.
nope, white out is expensive, they just cross it out and make it samller.
Good point, and it's probably not green, either. Come to think of it, their bio-degradable signs probably degraded and they'll eventually have to get new ones anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 19:40:24
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Stormin' Stompa
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Why not just hang more flags? a university I went to filled the ceiling with different flags and It was both inclusive and added something interesting to the building.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 20:00:11
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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As far as this part:
"Freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible can be interpreted as hate speech," the bill said. "
I agree, I've seen it argued many times here that hate speech is protected by the freedom of speech. So if you're going to an inclusive environment banning hate speech seems like a good idea.
While striving for fairness there is nothing wrong with banning "ALL" flags in one area. you'll still see the american flag in front of the school, but in the common room they decided no. I've seen many flags being flown around in cali, the mexican flag is the obvious one, but also african flags, and confederate flags.
It's their school, they're representatives voted, it's democracy in action.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 20:15:39
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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By "overly dramatic" did you mean "deeply misleading"? Automatically Appended Next Post:
The American flag wasn't specifically banned from the area in question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 20:56:23
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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The Conquerer
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dogma wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
The American flag wasn't specifically banned from the area in question.
No, but it was the target.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 21:00:00
Subject: California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's why we can't have nice things. People with severely lacking experience in life given decision power :( /e: Just in case, this isn't meant to be a serious post. Just for some special people in here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/07 21:15:31
Subject: Re:California university student council passes bill to ban flags
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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That isn't something which is clear, based on the article you posted. Simply because the American flag was specifically mentioned, does not indicate that it was the only flag which was specifically mentioned.
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