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So disappointed that the Suzerains are mark 3 when all the art had them as mark 4 like the rest of the model range.


Also, can somebody wit the Calth book confirm what the ultramarines legion rules are and what Gullimans stats are please?

 angelofvengeance wrote:


Are you kidding? He looks badass!

Not for me.

Better WS Despoiler Squad pictures:





A new Nurgle Daemon:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
So disappointed that the Suzerains are mark 3 when all the art had them as mark 4 like the rest of the model range.


Also, can somebody wit the Calth book confirm what the ultramarines legion rules are and what Gullimans stats are please?

How can you even tell under all that bling they have on? lol

Nurgle Daemon Prince of the Ruinstorm (or something)

FW Airbrush paints.


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 Totalwar1402 wrote:
So disappointed that the Suzerains are mark 3 when all the art had them as mark 4 like the rest of the model range.


Also, can somebody wit the Calth book confirm what the ultramarines legion rules are and what Gullimans stats are please?

The Suzerians are amazing. Have we even seen art for them before..?

 Wilson wrote:
Is that a lord of skulls with feet???

Well spotted. Might get that if it's true as I haven't built my Khornemower yet.

New transfers, look awesome!

They look great. It's just my army was built as mark 4 largely because the previewed artwork, including pics f the suzerains was all mark 4. But yeah there were pics of Invictari and Honour guard. Not sure if different units or the same. Just means they wot fit as we'll with te rest of my army.

Lovely transfers. More of the Scars:

Did not have white scars pegged as a mark 2 army. Surprising.

Nobody commenting on the Chaos Knight ?

I'm surprised GW has let FW make an official one as I was beginning to think they'd reserved them for the 'Good Guys' only

 ImAGeek wrote:
New transfers, look awesome!

AL with Ultra transfers, now that's trolling!

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Did not have white scars pegged as a mark 2 army. Surprising.

MkIV was a late addition, and mostly traitor legions got it because Horus sorted that out, and the WS were always on the outskirts probably away from any kind of reliable restocking system so they wouldn't have had much MkIV at all probably. MkIII seems too cumbersome for them so MkII does fit best fluff wise.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Did not have white scars pegged as a mark 2 army. Surprising.

I'm chuffed they are - they'll match my existing Scars nicely. In the backstory, MkII was marked as the armour that affected the wearers agility the least. Add that to the fact that the Scars were off on the fringes, and MkII would probably be the most common, MkIII very rarely used due to it's bulky clanking nature and Mk IV as available but rare:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Nobody commenting on the Chaos Knight ?

I'm surprised GW has let FW make an official one as I was beginning to think they'd reserved them for the 'Good Guys' only

Not much to comment on. Yes it's Chaos, yes it's made according to the aesthetics of the previous Chaos possessed Warhound and Reaver Titans. It was kinda expected.

Thoughts:


Guilliman is absolutely awful. Can across the pics on twitter and for a moment I thought Guilliman a conversion from the BA captain and just sprayed in FW grey primer. Then I realised. He looks like any generic SM captain, nothing to distiguish him, nothing remotely Primarchy about him. His powerfist makes him looks like on of the early 1980's/90's sculpts that are all cast in one solid piece.


Sigismund looks cool but work could be done. The sword across the body blocks most of the detail on him. Also, did Sigismund and the rest of the First Company or Sword Brethren or whatever they were called, wear black, which is why they all became Black Templars?

Those shield guys are too detailed by a long shot, can't even make out what they look like. Why do Ultramarines always have to bling things out to the the max? At least BA do it tastefully with trim, gold armour or other relatively simple bling, compared to basically every UM model which is absolute covered in medals and trophies like an army general with Small Man syndrome.



That titan. They really couldn't have made it worse? Sure, its big. Not exactly to scale with the reaver though. The reaver stands 16", the Warlord should be approxiately 50% taller (24") and it looks small. They didn't exactly go creative with it, did they? Literally took a Knight on a 3D modelling, made it bigger and added guns. Lazy design and ugly as well. I was hopeful when I saw the head, but this doesn't fit the design aesthetic of the other titans. I don't even mind that it isn't square like the Lucius Warhound, only that it looks completely different to the Mars pattern Reaver and Warhound and just doesn't fit.

True but I always assumed that they and te blood angels are styled to focus on their speed and so would get the sleeker armor with the smoother lines. Mark 2 has been associated with the clunkier heavy legions like iron warriors iron hands and death guard.

Still think BA will be mark 4. Dark angels mark 2 and the wolves mark 4.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
True but I always assumed that they and te blood angels are styled to focus on their speed and so would get the sleeker armor with the smoother lines. Mark 2 has been associated with the clunkier heavy legions like iron warriors iron hands and death guard.

Still think BA will be mark 4. Dark angels mark 2 and the wolves mark 4.

MkIII is more for heavier legions I'd say. Everyone started of with MkII. It was mostly traitors who got MkIV, the loyalists got very little of it until the IF did their thing on Mars and then they got some. If they go by the fluff, BA and SW will have MkII most likely. MkII isn't slow or heavy, it's marginally slower than MkIV I think and slightly heavier armoured.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Did not have white scars pegged as a mark 2 army. Surprising.

In "Scars" (the book) it says that their ceremonial guard is clad in Thunder Armour so I guess Mk 2 makes as more "advanced".

Contents for Tempest. Can't wait to get it.

Thanatar-Cynis and the Domitar Class Automata. Oooooooo

Captain Remus Ventanus of the Ultramarines



Zardu Layak, The Crimson Apostle

So what are the legion rules for ultra and Gulli stats? Can you ask somebody with the book?

No Thiel?

Three unique units?

Ultra termies? Yes please.


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Shame Ventanos doesn't have a paragon blade but he has some beast special rules. Wonder if he will get a unique model.

Warlord Titan stats

What does the Legiones astartes ultramarines special rule do?


Wait an ARMOUR 15 model!!!!!!???? :O

Once again, FW is here to save us from GW's terrible model ideas. Lord of skulls with legs looks great.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

Wait an ARMOUR 15 model!!!!!!???? :O

I think it's safe to say that the 40k game engine is well beyond it's ability to properly represent these models!

Sunfury Plasma Annihilator?
Mori Quake Cannon?
Macro-Gatling Blaster?

I much know what these things are.

From m-r-parker on B&C:

Spoke to Alan Bligh, book 6 may not be second part of the Ultramar campaign - the order has gone fluid again. He's mentioned a desire to do more Conquest books, as the ability to 'pan out' to the wider conflict instead of specific battles would be good. No firm clue what the next book is, could be anything at this point.
Plus Alan also confirmed that they're wanting to expedite basic upgrade kits for all Legions. No particular order, they'll get them out as soon as they happen. The White Scar models don't indicate anything other than upgrade kits are being worked on.

Wow, wow and wow.

That Nurgle Daemon is absolutely rocking.

Guillimans scenic base is brilliant.

Love the warlord, his legs are a bit more dynamic than standard walkers and the heavy inlet valves or whatever they are on the carapace are awesome.

Sigmund is great too.

Excllent stuff overall.

So, another Thanatar Class is in the works (cynis) and a new Battle automata (Dominar).

I'm one happy magos

Anybody who is there be able to get an accurate sizing on the warlord? Looks to be more than two FW knights tall? That would put it significantly taller than the reaver. Not pleased that the warlord is 1150 but I need to see it in the flesh tomorrow.