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OK so the large beasty DEFINITELY isn't a Veer-Myn Brood Mother then...

The brood mother is interesting. It almost looks like she's got a mechanical port hole on her belly for rapid baby delivery action! Which is kind of creepy... but then... so are giant rat people.

 GrimDork wrote:
The brood mother is interesting. It almost looks like she's got a mechanical port hole on her belly for rapid baby delivery action! Which is kind of creepy... but then... so are giant rat people.

Maybe it's a built in washing machine for all her offsprings dirty laundry?

Brood mother / tervigon conversion?

Mantic, if you manage to get the brood mother mini to look exactly as cool as the concept art, I will have your babies!

Joyboozer wrote:
Mantic, if you manage to get the brood mother mini to look exactly as cool as the concept art, I will have your babies!

Joyboozer = Brood Mother?!?

 Alpharius wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Mantic, if you manage to get the brood mother mini to look exactly as cool as the concept art, I will have your babies!

Joyboozer = Brood Mother?!?

Sounds like a custom title if ever I heard one...

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I want a mini of Blaine standing over Ronnie Renton, with a chain link leash, forcing him to sign thank you cards to all backers.

It's scenic. And I could see Mantic doing it!

Exalted! Mantic owes us this.

 scarletsquig wrote:
With pledge managers, and pledge manager $ counting towards new stretch goals, KS campaigns from Mantic effectively last for a year or so.
Main thing I'm unsure about currently is pricing on the add-ons, since I'm fairly sure that Warpath pricing on those nightstalkers will be more like $25 for 20, with army deals and such bringing the price down further (there's already the Enforcer Warpath army deal for reference there).
$10 for 5 was the pricing on the peacekeepers in the original DZ campaign.

I'm finding $10 for 5 normal-sized models (plus a doohickey add-on) a bit rich.

Triple9 wrote:
The HIPS miniatures are selling for $25 a sprue at retail...at least the Peacekeepers are. They were priced at $10 add-on as well in the last KS, so the value is in there over retail, it's just a matter of whether you want/need that much.
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/43278/s/mgdze05-1/

Wow, you're right. $5 each for Mantic's HIPS models? That's fething crazy.

I still say they hiked the price just to make their trademark big deal boxes look like a better deal in comparison.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I still say they hiked the price just to make their trademark big deal boxes look like a better deal in comparison.

Or they're betting folks'll compare peacekeepers to terminators @ $50/5 models and think they got a deal at half the price.

Peacekeepers are nicer than ordinary enforcers, but in comparison to terminators they will lose on just about every metric other than price, and maybe aesthetic style.

If you need to compare your products to GW prices in order to win, you lose.

privateer4hire wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I still say they hiked the price just to make their trademark big deal boxes look like a better deal in comparison.

Or they're betting folks'll compare peacekeepers to terminators @ $50/5 models and think they got a deal at half the price.

They better hope they don't compare them to Dreamforge Valkir, better quality at $3 each.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Peacekeepers are nicer than ordinary enforcers, but in comparison to terminators they will lose on just about every metric other than price, and maybe aesthetic style.

If you need to compare your products to GW prices in order to win, you lose.

Didn't say it was a good strategy.
Just speculating.

Valkir aren't as big and as bulky as either the Terminators or Peacekeepers. Keep that in mind.

We'll have to see how big that Brood Mother ends up being. I do like the baby birthing porthole idea, and hope she comes with a sprue of rats/ baby rat men to spill out every turn.

That Brood Mother art is simply fantastic. I'm not a fan of the rat men myself, but that concept art looks pretty sweet. I wonder if they'll make her as big as the stage one plague. If she is, I'll get one. Period.

Stage One Plague sized would probably make me want to get multiples if they let us.

If that's a 40mm base she's been depicted on then she won't be stage 1 sized, more like a bulky stage 2

It's a little off topic, but with all the Enforcer Peacekeepers vs. Dreamforge Valkir talk here, I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison. Could anyone post a link to some comparison shots, or post some of their own here on Dakka in a gallery? I'd appreciate it.

I have five Peacekeepers assembled and like them, but I won't be buying more for $25 (even discounted with shipping included). I would seriously consider adding some more on if they put them in this campaign at KS add-on prices, however.

I do agree that a couple of the Pathfinders look a little odd; mostly - as I think Bob said? - the female torso proportions that seem off to me, but the male Pathfinders look fine. I'm not bothered about them, though, because they all look very useful for mix-and-match with standard HP Enforcers and Plague units.

As for the Veer-myn, I'm pleased. I do prefer Remy's originals so far, but I like the new HP ones too, and ease of assembly / conversion counts for a a lot. And the Brood Mother has a lot of originality / personality, rather than being the expected Skaven knock-off (there's no direct equivalent I can think of - haven't Skaven always been male, anyway?), so hat's off to them for that.

I guess miniature overload is sinking in for me. So far this KS campaign doesn't have quite the excitement of the first DZ KS, despite the fact that I actually like both of the starter teams this time (1st KS wanted about half of the bundled teams), they're made out of better plastic, and the exclusive resin units that we know about so far - Piper and Blaine - look very promising. Still, I'm currently in for $110 and plan to stay there. Particularly at the sweet spot pledge level, I've never had buyer's remorse from a Mantic KS.

One criticism I would make at this point is that Deadzone Infestation is playing it a bit too coy with the story hook, because essentially there isn't one yet. The Veer-myn are bustin' loose and the Pathfinders are too late to stop them. OK. But who are the Veer-myn anymore (what are the revisions?), and why are they a dire threat? Why are the industrial buildings painted to look like cheddar cheese? Where's the Flavor Flav?

I think Skaven have the equivalent to the broodmother, but they are non combatants, big mutant momma rats that just kind of spew out more skaven down in their lairs and don't move around or fight anything. Bit more like an ant queen in that regard.

I'm quite hopeful that the fluff section in this new and improved hardback rulebook is well and truly large and packed with good fluff.. but we'll see.

 Vermonter wrote:
It's a little off topic, but with all the Enforcer Peacekeepers vs. Dreamforge Valkir talk here, I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison. Could anyone post a link to some comparison shots, or post some of their own here on Dakka in a gallery? I'd appreciate it.

There was exactly one of these pictures, plus a Sedition Wars troopers, a Terminator and a regular Eisenkern posted in the Manti Sci-fi news thread maybe a month or two ago.

Unfortunately that thread seems to have completey disappeared from the face of Dakka, can't even find it in my post history, so not sure how else to find that image again

 GrimDork wrote:
I think Skaven have the equivalent to the broodmother, but they are non combatants, big mutant momma rats that just kind of spew out more skaven down in their lairs and don't move around or fight anything. Bit more like an ant queen in that regard.

I'm quite hopeful that the fluff section in this new and improved hardback rulebook is well and truly large and packed with good fluff.. but we'll see.

Yep- Skaven call females (of any species) "breeders". They don't really leave the Under-Empire at all.

Currently in on the sweet spot, but I'm not planning on staying currently. A lot depends on the upcoming terrain only pledge as currently I'm eying the new battlezones and 10 (or maybe just 5) Pathfinders.

Confirmation of the Terrain contents from Quarantine

Creator Mantic Games 23 minutes ago

... the exact combination of scenery tiles are supposed to be on the pledge level graphic, it is 6 sprues, plus connectors, plus one accessory sprue at the moment, two with the next goal funded. I need to check however that all of the tiles have been accurately represented. and will get that done when the pledge level graphic is updated in the morning.

So that's not even a full battlezone from the first KS as it ended up with 8 sprues, a connector sprue and an accessory sprue. Although the addition of pipes sprue will make it equivalent to an old BZ.

I mentioned that yesterday. One battlezone is 32 tiles and the current pledge is 16.

6 sprues would be the equivalent of 24 tiles so the graphic is completely out plus the graphic has a lot of 1/4 tiles so it's only really showing 12 tiles worth.

I updated the retail in the first post to $50 (counting the extra accessories).

 NTRabbit wrote:
If that's a 40mm base she's been depicted on then she won't be stage 1 sized, more like a bulky stage 2

Where did you get the idea that she is on a 40mm base? Not being sarcastic, legitimately asking. I don't see mention of that anywhere.

 Riquende wrote:
Currently in on the sweet spot, but I'm not planning on staying currently. A lot depends on the upcoming terrain only pledge as currently I'm eying the new battlezones and 10 (or maybe just 5) Pathfinders.

You have to finish your first set first!!!

Seems Mantic has gotten pretty fix w/ some of the nonsense tactics. 25k stretches at the start that would be 10-15k stretches the last week, and gross lack of details so they throw up stretch goals to fill gaps that really would have been done anyways.