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You don't have to buy everything when it's released

I used to think that but with tournament play I can't even keep up with all the new books heh. I got tabled by crons not knowing what they could do since I didn't buy that dex. I can't even start a new army as I am trying to keep up with all the changes. Then of course there is that shiny new addiction I have heh. I have seen several long term gamers dropping out because they can't keep up with all the rules releases.

 adamsouza wrote:
You don't have to buy everything when it's released

But.. but.. GW says I MUST BUY NEW RELEASES TO WIN!! lol.

+1 Mr Souza for one of the most sensible posts I've seen on here lol.

 Nevelon wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Doing another Eldar book and not re-doing the Avatar would just be criminal. It is one of the oldest models in the range. It needs to be redone.

While I don’t disagree, it’s not like the eldar range is short of horribly dated minis. They could update half the range, and still have work to do...

yep

The eldar range needs a lot of love.

drbored wrote:Bad news guys.

The redirect of 'eldar-avatar-with-spear' as it is on the FW site ALSO corrects to 'Eldar-Avatar-With-Spear'.

While this is great new evidence that FW is being migrated to the GW site, it doesn't bode well for a new plastic Avatar model.

Dang... Highly likely we're NOT getting a new plastic Avatar..

Azreal13 wrote:Except the GW page link is

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Eldar-Avatar

No spear (or presumably sword) in the link.

No, DrBored is definitely on to something.

For example, http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-avatar-with-banana doesn't become Eldar-Avatar-With-Banana, but http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-avatar does become Eldar-Avatar and eldar-avatar-with-spear also becomes capitalized.

E.g. http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-wraithseer and http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-phantom-titan-body, two other FW kits also become capitalized.

Combine that with the fact that credible rumour sources like Lords of Wargaming have only mentioned the jetbikes and autarch as new kits, its seems the Avatar is just the FW version being included on the GW site.

You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

I hope Pretre is listing this as a rumor to be verified

I don't comprehend people who buy every single Codex and complain about the costs draining their wallets. It's not like there are other ways to acquire the rules, particularly for those armies you don't actually collect, right? Right?

Anyway, I've got some Eldar allies to help spice up my DE army. The talk about the WK "gaining some weight" is intriguing, to say the least.

 nflagey wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

I hope Pretre is listing this as a rumor to be verified

IIRC it’s a long established fact that the wailing doom can take any form. It’s 100% fluffy to wipe out your army with a flaming banana.

I think the wraithknight may actually become LOW and GMC. The other codecies that got a giant lord of war were ones that had big plastic kits. Eldar have one of those, he just needs more umpf. I can't wait to see what they do with it(though I already made my own superheavy version)

Also, the avatar of khaine may switch to that slot, he is already one per detachment...

 adamsouza wrote:
I just don't know dip about the Dark Eldar. Do they have a LOW ?

Vect would be, but he's off getting a makeover right now.

 nflagey wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

I hope Pretre is listing this as a rumor to be verified

Negatory.

 GearheadXII wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Pretty much the only change is going to be Banshee Grenades, Serpent Shield Nerf, and Holoshield nerf, right?

I get the two first ones but why the holoshield nerf? It's already bad since you have to move to use it; it gives the same buff as IG/AM camo netting but doesn't work turn one, maybe I am missing something?

Because it sits on an on platform that can make an on-demand 4+ cover jink, which gives a 3+ cover even in the open. An IG vehicle in the open would have 6+ cover and 4+ if it pops its one-use smoke grenades. That's not even speaking of ignoring pens on 2+.

Giving the serpent the 5+ invuln instead would drop its survivability a decent amount. Especially since the player may decide to try and use it instead of jink, making them fail more saves.

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Giving the serpent the 5+ invuln instead would drop its survivability a decent amount. Especially since the player may decide to try and use it instead of jink, making them fail more saves.

The real way to fix serps is fix scatter lasers - currently it's broken. Makes jinking easy.

<sarcasm>
Yeah!! They should treat Wave Serpents like they did Annihilation Barges. Nerf them and increase their point costs, so no one will want to play them. Teach those WAAC Xenos players"
</sarcasm>

 GearheadXII wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Pretty much the only change is going to be Banshee Grenades, Serpent Shield Nerf, and Holoshield nerf, right?

I get the two first ones but why the holoshield nerf? It's already bad since you have to move to use it; it gives the same buff as IG/AM camo netting but doesn't work turn one, maybe I am missing something?

according to many peole the holofield rules in escalation take precedence - whenever a weapon scores a hit the eldar player rolls a d6; if the titan moved that turn the hit is disgarded on a 3+ if it remains stationary it is discarded on a 4+.
And then you can take cover saves against what didn't get negated.

I don't think that's bad at all!

Isn't that just specifically an eldar titan holofield, or did that change?

 pretre wrote:

 nflagey wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

I hope Pretre is listing this as a rumor to be verified

Negatory.

Pfft! When I'm right about the Wailing Banana you'll feel pretty silly!

 Fishboy wrote:
I used to think that but with tournament play I can't even keep up with all the new books heh. I got tabled by crons not knowing what they could do since I didn't buy that dex. I can't even start a new army as I am trying to keep up with all the changes. Then of course there is that shiny new addiction I have heh. I have seen several long term gamers dropping out because they can't keep up with all the rules releases.

Reading the articles on 1d4chan gives you 95% of the information in a codex. Reading the threads in news and rumours here on Dakka gives you 99% of the information in a codex. Talking to gamers who play the codex helps. The internet has 100% of the information in a codex if you know where to look.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 nflagey wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You heard it here first folks - the Avatar is getting a banana!

I hope Pretre is listing this as a rumor to be verified

Negatory.

Pfft! When I'm right about the Wailing Banana you'll feel pretty silly!

I always feel silly.

Why is there so much hope for this when I found the Avatar by simply just looking on the website...

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Eldar-Avatar-of-Khaine

That's the point. It's a new link for a new model.

 lajollagrad wrote:
Why is there so much hope for this when I found the Avatar by simply just looking on the website...

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Eldar-Avatar-of-Khaine

That's not the link mentioned in this thread:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Eldar-Avatar

 lajollagrad wrote:
Why is there so much hope for this when I found the Avatar by simply just looking on the website...

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Eldar-Avatar-of-Khaine

Because you've got two rumours muddled, chap, that's why.

Several items have disappeared, the Avatar isn't one of them, and several URLs appear to redirect to valid, but as yet unused, pages in the GW site, the Avatar is one of those.

Couldn't find Eldar Jetbikes last night.

Hooo boy, the Windrider models seem to be gone. Too bad I've got a few of the old ones not that long ago but hey, I can always use some more jetbikes in my army. Particularly new shiny models...

 streetsamurai wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Doing another Eldar book and not re-doing the Avatar would just be criminal. It is one of the oldest models in the range. It needs to be redone.

While I don’t disagree, it’s not like the eldar range is short of horribly dated minis. They could update half the range, and still have work to do...

yep

The eldar range needs a lot of love.

Seriously. We're talking about one of the oldest armies in the game, and 3/4 of its infantry model range is Finecast.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The eldar range needs a lot of love.

Seriously. We're talking about one of the oldest armies in the game, and 3/4 of its infantry model range is Finecast.

 pretre wrote:
That's the point. It's a new link for a new model.

Except it probably isn't a new model, but the FW one, of course.