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2015/03/28 23:32:47
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Hillary Clinton has been in the public eye for a very long time, which means much has been written about her -- including quite a few adjectives. But some of these adjectives are now off-limits.
That's according to the Clinton "Super Volunteers," who have promised to track the media's use of words they believe to be sexist code words. The New York Times's Amy Chozick tweeted a missive she received from the group (which we would note is almost definitely not connected to official Team Clinton) on Wednesday:
So these words are now off the table: "polarizing," "calculating," "disingenuous," "insincere," "ambitious," "inevitable," "entitled," "over-confident," "secretive," "will do anything to win," "represents the past," and "out of touch."
Also apparently off the table: "tone deaf" -- at least according to a new Twitter account that appears to be from the group:
The thinking here, of course, is that these kinds of words are attached to Clinton in a way that they wouldn't be attached to male candidates -- that people wouldn't call Clinton "ambitious" if she weren't a woman, that there is a double-standard for such traits.
But do the media actually use these words to describe Clinton? Well, yes, but only if you loosely define "the media" as "the conservative media" and "people who don't like Hillary Clinton."
In fact, if you Google "Hillary Clinton" and "calculating," there are 140,000 results. The first slew of results come from conservative outlets like The Daily Caller, The Blaze, Breitbart, the Daily Telegraph and also the Republican "America Rising" super PAC. One result comes from the Los Angeles Times, but it's a defense Bill Clinton lodged in 2007 against the attacks.
"Calculating" is almost completely something used to attack Clinton or describe the attacks on her. The same goes for "disingenuous," "insincere," "entitled," "secretive," "over-confident," "represents the past" and "out of touch." These are all loaded words and not terms used casually by mainstream media journalists like Chozick to describe a politician.
The same cannot be said for some other words. "Polarizing" is a word that has long followed Clinton, as has "ambitious," and "inevitable."
And some of these words should indeed be reined in -- if not necessarily for the reason this group wants.
"Polarizing," for example, is a word that now describes pretty much every well-known politician in the country, up to and including Barack Obama and George W. Bush. The politician who isn't polarizing is the exception rather than the rule. And it usually means that the politician just isn't well known enough to be polarizing. Yet.
And while we're at it, go ahead and retire "inevitable," too. We've been talking about it for a while, sure, but it's probably been overdone (not too mention it aims to predict the future). Now it's all about whether Clinton gets any capable primary opponents. Until then, call her a huge favorite and leave it at that.
As for "ambitious," nobody runs for president without having an extraordinary amount of ambition. Not Ted Cruz, not Barack Obama, not Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush, and definitely not Bill Clinton -- all of whom have had their unusual amount of ambition chewed over by the media.
The words?
Polarizing
Calculating
Disingenuous
Insincere
Ambitious
Entitled
Over Confidant
Secretive
"Will do anything to win"
Represents the Past
Out of Touch
Now, I could see if you didn't want to call her a couple of slurs usually associated with women, but any of those? COME ON.....
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2015/03/28 23:45:10
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Hilary Clinton is, Polarizing, Calculating, Disingenuous, Insincere, Ambitious, Entitled, Over Confident, Secretive, "Will do anything to win" Represents the Past, and Out of Touch.
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2015/03/28 23:53:14
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
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2015/03/28 23:55:17
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
I think politicians that try to strangle the 1st Amendment (in this case, freedom of speech, freedom of press, etc.) are worse than any specific stance on any other topic.
2015/03/29 00:08:19
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
This has now got me thinking of writing a paragraph including them all.
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2015/03/29 00:51:25
Subject: Re:"You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Yeah. I can get how all of those are negatives save calculating. I'd consider calculating to be a good thing in a leader XD
Someone descried as calculating tends to be seen as cold, or aloof. Nor a good thing for a politician, as they want to be seen as human and approachable.
It's certainly not sexist, though.
2015/03/29 00:58:53
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Yeah. I can get how all of those are negatives save calculating. I'd consider calculating to be a good thing in a leader XD
Someone descried as calculating tends to be seen as cold, or aloof. Nor a good thing for a politician, as they want to be seen as human and approachable.
It's certainly not sexist, though.
Can't agree with you more. It certainly isn't sexist.
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2015/03/29 01:38:32
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Huh, interesting. To be frank, Clinton comes across somewhat Out of Touch with modern ideals of free speech, where people can say whatever the hell they want and claim there can be no consequences. In this regard, I suppose you could say she Represents the Past where the media could be especially harsh, but being as Polarizing, Calculating and Amibitious as she, you can hardly blame them. Her Secretive agenda and Entitled, Over-Confident attitude makes her an easy target for bad press, not to mention her Insincere and Disingenuous tone. As wargames, we all know how hard it is to like the guy with the "Will do anything to win" mentality. Just not fun to be around.
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2015/03/29 01:39:14
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Avatar 720 wrote: Hilary Clinton is, Polarizing, Calculating, Disingenuous, Insincere, Ambitious, Entitled, Over Confident, Secretive, "Will do anything to win" Represents the Past, and Out of Touch.
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2015/03/29 02:05:26
Subject: Re:"You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Slarg232 wrote: Polarizing
Calculating
Disingenuous
Insincere
Ambitious
Entitled
Over Confidant
Secretive
"Will do anything to win"
Represents the Past
Out of Touch
None of these words are sexist (as much as a word can be sexist...). These people need to learn the definition of sexist. They have the definition of stupid down pat though, so there's that.
It's important to note this is from a group not affiliated with Clinton. I sincerely believe she does not want to censor the press.
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2015/03/29 02:35:55
Subject: Re:"You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
Avatar 720 wrote: Hilary Clinton is, Polarizing, Calculating, Disingenuous, Insincere, Ambitious, Entitled, Over Confident, Secretive, "Will do anything to win" Represents the Past, and Out of Touch.
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This is why those words are not allowed. Because she is all of these things and she is now using her gender as a shield to cover her inadequacy as a person and her ineptitude as a leader. If she were a person of character, she wouldn't have to hide from these criticisms and would endeavor to prove them wrong.
A quick edit: her SUPPORTERS wouldn't have to hide her from these words. She might not be, but her supporters are. Somehow I find that even more shameful.
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2015/03/29 02:50:25
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
SharkoutofWata wrote: A quick edit: her SUPPORTERS wouldn't have to hide her from these words. She might not be, but her supporters are. Somehow I find that even more shameful.
A bit like our last Prime Minister did, especially before the end (where she was deposed by the guy she deposed in the first place).
SharkoutofWata wrote: A quick edit: her SUPPORTERS wouldn't have to hide her from these words. She might not be, but her supporters are. Somehow I find that even more shameful.
A bit like our last Prime Minister did, especially before the end (where she was deposed by the guy she deposed in the first place).
Prepare for a new Victim-in-Chief, I guess.
Honestly that just reminds me of the ridiculously sexist tripe I had a lot of LNP voting family members say about Gillard. Tired 'hur hur patriarchy check your privilege' jokes aside, there definitely was a sexist angle to the criticism launched at her.
2015/03/29 08:46:11
Subject: "You must not use these sexist words when reporting about Hilary Clinton"
I do find the highly privileged white men and boys ITT deciding they get to decide what is and is not sexist speech quite amusing.
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