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 Sarouan wrote:
Am I the only one to think there is something wrong with the colors used for this new "Age of Sigmar"? I mean, yellow on blue...it doesn't feel like a grim and dark universe to me. It feels like something...blank, a new useless product made by some marketing team.

We'll see what's this all about in a month, I guess. But that really starts on the wrong foot, to me...

Build your own game!

 Charles Rampant wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Point is, nobody has a clue what GW are ever thinking. We could either see a brand new 9th edition, or we're just as likely to see a snotling codex!!

Yeah.... but it'a pretty bloody unlikely they've stripped the shelves of all current army books and rulebooks (even ones they've only released in the past 6 months for End Times) and are giving us a 1 month warning (more than anything since 7th edition 40k) only to release Warhammer Armies: Snotlings.

Can you actually verify that more than just the one shop, if it indeed was, has "stripped the shelves of all current army books and rulebooks"?

My own GW has said nothing of this, and the post from that specific shop(Liverpool NSW) is either hidden, in a group that the manager joined, or some other weirdness--because the photo(which SHOULD appear in the store's photo collection) does not exist nor does any post about it.

I can confirm it, having gone into my local GW yesterday. No army books, no End Times books on the shelves; the movement trays are still there though, for those keeping track. The spots just have the Age of Sigmar poster up, and they have a little cardboard flier with the poster on it to take away. I took it away. Then put it in the bin, as I didn't know what else to do with it. True story.

Edit to add: no rulebooks either. I didn't look for Island of Blood, but I also don't remember seeing it, and it is a pretty big box.

Ditto, i was in a GW on Saturday, all rulebooks/army books/end times/starter boxes gone from the shelves. Leaflet & poster up.

I find it funny that people are labouring under the assumption that GW operates like a normal business.

They don't play by the rules.

Removing fantasy stuff from shelves is no guarantee of 9th edition. It could be a Kirby plan to make people think they've sold out

Making profit, advertising new stuff in advance, and giving people what they want, makes business sense to companies like Apple or MacDonald's,

but GW don't play by the rules. If something sells well, they stop selling it. If high prices put people off, GW INCREASE prices.

If people are eager for news on new stuff, GW lock it away in Fort Knox

GW are not a normal company, so quit acting like they are

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I've had a long, hard think about this (about 5 mins ) and I've came to the conclusion that maybe the Age of Sigmar really is the age of Sigmar.

In other words, we should take GW at their word.

It's a possibility that they've went back to the beginning, and decided to set 9th in pre-Empire days.

Most of the races were around back then...

This is the best and most interesting guess I've heard yet. This has a lot of potential, and sounds just like something GW would do. They didn't destroy the world, at least not permanently, they just gave Sigmar a chance to win the fight for the good guys.

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - At war with Settra
Vampire Counts - Learning the Dark arts from nagash
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs

Hordes of Chaos

O&G + Ogres

Skaven

Undead

Lizardmen + Elves


Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Can you actually verify that more than just the one shop, if it indeed was, has "stripped the shelves of all current army books and rulebooks"?

My own GW has said nothing of this, and the post from that specific shop(Liverpool NSW) is either hidden, in a group that the manager joined, or some other weirdness--because the photo(which SHOULD appear in the store's photo collection) does not exist nor does any post about it.

I can confirm that the store in Amsterdam and my hometown have both done it as well.

 Coyote81 wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I've had a long, hard think about this (about 5 mins ) and I've came to the conclusion that maybe the Age of Sigmar really is the age of Sigmar.

In other words, we should take GW at their word.

It's a possibility that they've went back to the beginning, and decided to set 9th in pre-Empire days.

Most of the races were around back then...

This is the best and most interesting guess I've heard yet. This has a lot of potential, and sounds just like something GW would do. They didn't destroy the world, at least not permanently, they just gave Sigmar a chance to win the fight for the good guys.

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - Haven't been killed and cursed yet - negash
Vampire Counts - Haven't been created by negash yet
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs

Hordes of Chaos

O&G + Ogres

Skaven

Undead

Lizardmen + Elves


Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

It's pure speculation, but maybe GW have been watching Terminator, or Doctor who, and decided to add time travel/changing history vibe to the mix.

I agree with you that some factions, like Elves, will operate as a united faction, so maybe this could reduce the number of races, whilst still maintaining the flavour of previous editions.

Vampires will be around in Sigmar's days, so I'm happy.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
GW are not a normal company, so quit acting like they are

Of course anything COULD happen, tomorrow COULD be the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.... but at this point you can't really fault people for going along with what is most likely. Sure, they COULD be replacing all of WHFB with a Space Hulk like game.... it's not likely though.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
GW are not a normal company, so quit acting like they are

Of course anything COULD happen, tomorrow COULD be the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.... but at this point you can't really fault people for going along with what is most likely. Sure, they COULD be replacing all of WHFB with a Space Hulk like game.... it's not likely though.

Boardroom of a normal company.

Person X: Hey, you know that new game we started selling?

Person Y: You mean Space Hulk?

Person X: Yeah, Space hulk. it's selling really well, but stock is low. What should we do?

Person Y: Are you a comedian? Order more! make more! Do I have to give you a map and a native American guide!!

\person X : Sorry, I'm not thinking straight. All that work hyping up our new product left me tired. If only we could do it a week in advance, instead of months in advance. Damn! I hate being a normal company.



GW Boardroom.

Minion: (Falls to his knees) Lord Kirby, I regret to inform you that our new Space Hulk game...

Lord Kirby: Well, go on, you damned lackey! Cat got your tongue?

Minion:...it's...sold...out... (minion pleads for life)

Lord Kirby: Asteroids do not concern me! You have failed me for the last time...

Sound of gurgling and choking as minion pays the price for failure

Like I say, never try and predict GW's next move.

 Coyote81 wrote:

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - At war with Settra
Vampire Counts - Learning the Dark arts from nagash
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs
Hordes of Chaos
O&G + Ogres
Skaven
Undead
Lizardmen + Elves

Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

There are some inaccuracies in where the races were at in that point of the timeline, so to update it:

Beastmen: Exist in the wooded areas throughout the old world. Empire constantly battles against them during the Sigmar trilogy.
Bretonnia: They existed already, because Sigmar offered to them to join the Empire when it was founded, but they declined the invitation.
Dark Elves: The sundering had already happened by the time Sigmar was in place. Sundering happened at -2723, so the DE would be in Naggaroth by now and on their raids.
Skaven: They definitely exist, they just aren't "known of" as the Skaven. They appear in the 2nd book of the Sigmar trilogy, fighting the Dwarfs and humans under Middenheim. So they are around. Not as technically advanced yet, but they are there and they are scheming. They are basically just urban legends unconfirmed at this point.
The Empire: Not sure how they would handle that with this. Depends upon where they pick up the time of Sigmar. Is he already ruler? If so, they have already fought the first battle of Black Fire Pass and are turning into a bustling nation. If it is before Sigmar is crowned, then they are a bunch of small forces that fight amongst themselves a ton.
Wood Elves: Sundering and War of the Beard had already happened and they had fled to Athel Loren by this point.

IMO, going back to that time period doesn't really help to collapse armies, at least a lot less than the End Times collapsed them. As an Empire player, I would really be interested in playing games from that time period, but I really don't think that is the direction they are going to go in with it. I am still thinking this is Sigmar appearing on a new planet/reality/what-have-you and starting a new bastion against chaos there. This so happens to be a world where the warp energy that engulfed the Old World (a fitting name now) will deposit survivors to. This will bring surviving races into the fold, as there were lots of different races fighting battles when the world was engulfed by the warp energy.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
some new art from my local GW on facebook



(less blue, more spooky skulls)

Given that that's the exact same hammer (and comet trails!) from the cover of the 8E book, I'm gonna call it a 'shop job. While they've always had Ghal Maraz on the cover, the art has been different between editions.

That Thunder sound effect on the Gamesworkshop home page made me gak myself. I had my volume turned RIGHT UP as I was listening to a youtube video. Bass too.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
That Thunder sound effect on the Gamesworkshop home page made me gak myself. I had my volume turned RIGHT UP as I was listening to a youtube video. Bass too.

Thanks for the heads up!
I was prepared for it, honest!

Still jumped off my chair!

Is that the sound of GW hitting the floor?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
That Thunder sound effect on the Gamesworkshop home page made me gak myself. I had my volume turned RIGHT UP as I was listening to a youtube video. Bass too.

Sue em for attempted heart attack

HobbyBox wrote:

 Coyote81 wrote:

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - At war with Settra
Vampire Counts - Learning the Dark arts from nagash
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs
Hordes of Chaos
O&G + Ogres
Skaven
Undead
Lizardmen + Elves

Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

There are some inaccuracies in where the races were at in that point of the timeline, so to update it:

Beastmen: Exist in the wooded areas throughout the old world. Empire constantly battles against them during the Sigmar trilogy.
Bretonnia: They existed already, because Sigmar offered to them to join the Empire when it was founded, but they declined the invitation.
Dark Elves: The sundering had already happened by the time Sigmar was in place. Sundering happened at -2723, so the DE would be in Naggaroth by now and on their raids.
Skaven: They definitely exist, they just aren't "known of" as the Skaven. They appear in the 2nd book of the Sigmar trilogy, fighting the Dwarfs and humans under Middenheim. So they are around. Not as technically advanced yet, but they are there and they are scheming. They are basically just urban legends unconfirmed at this point.
The Empire: Not sure how they would handle that with this. Depends upon where they pick up the time of Sigmar. Is he already ruler? If so, they have already fought the first battle of Black Fire Pass and are turning into a bustling nation. If it is before Sigmar is crowned, then they are a bunch of small forces that fight amongst themselves a ton.
Wood Elves: Sundering and War of the Beard had already happened and they had fled to Athel Loren by this point.

IMO, going back to that time period doesn't really help to collapse armies, at least a lot less than the End Times collapsed them. As an Empire player, I would really be interested in playing games from that time period, but I really don't think that is the direction they are going to go in with it. I am still thinking this is Sigmar appearing on a new planet/reality/what-have-you and starting a new bastion against chaos there. This so happens to be a world where the warp energy that engulfed the Old World (a fitting name now) will deposit survivors to. This will bring surviving races into the fold, as there were lots of different races fighting battles when the world was engulfed by the warp energy.

In the old Brettonia codex wasn't one of the castles that pseudo-King Arthur raises the siege on being besieged by the Skaven?

 Ratbarf wrote:


In the old Brettonia codex wasn't one of the castles that pseudo-King Arthur raises the siege on being besieged by the Skaven?

It could be. The bit they use a lot in the Black Library books about the Empire is always that there were rumors that walking rats had attacked various places. The people are always discounted as being crazy and stuff like that. Which was always an enjoyable bit.

 Desubot wrote:
Sue em for attempted heart attack

That's the next six months' 'one-off cost' excuse taken care of.

 Desubot wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
That Thunder sound effect on the Gamesworkshop home page made me gak myself. I had my volume turned RIGHT UP as I was listening to a youtube video. Bass too.

Sue em for attempted heart attack

I should send them the bill for my dry cleaning.

Is it sad I already have the funds trapped up and ready to go on this... will I ever learn.

HobbyBox wrote:

 Coyote81 wrote:

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - At war with Settra
Vampire Counts - Learning the Dark arts from nagash
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs
Hordes of Chaos
O&G + Ogres
Skaven
Undead
Lizardmen + Elves

Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

There are some inaccuracies in where the races were at in that point of the timeline, so to update it:

Beastmen: Exist in the wooded areas throughout the old world. Empire constantly battles against them during the Sigmar trilogy.
Bretonnia: They existed already, because Sigmar offered to them to join the Empire when it was founded, but they declined the invitation.
Dark Elves: The sundering had already happened by the time Sigmar was in place. Sundering happened at -2723, so the DE would be in Naggaroth by now and on their raids.
Skaven: They definitely exist, they just aren't "known of" as the Skaven. They appear in the 2nd book of the Sigmar trilogy, fighting the Dwarfs and humans under Middenheim. So they are around. Not as technically advanced yet, but they are there and they are scheming. They are basically just urban legends unconfirmed at this point.
The Empire: Not sure how they would handle that with this. Depends upon where they pick up the time of Sigmar. Is he already ruler? If so, they have already fought the first battle of Black Fire Pass and are turning into a bustling nation. If it is before Sigmar is crowned, then they are a bunch of small forces that fight amongst themselves a ton.
Wood Elves: Sundering and War of the Beard had already happened and they had fled to Athel Loren by this point.

IMO, going back to that time period doesn't really help to collapse armies, at least a lot less than the End Times collapsed them. As an Empire player, I would really be interested in playing games from that time period, but I really don't think that is the direction they are going to go in with it. I am still thinking this is Sigmar appearing on a new planet/reality/what-have-you and starting a new bastion against chaos there. This so happens to be a world where the warp energy that engulfed the Old World (a fitting name now) will deposit survivors to. This will bring surviving races into the fold, as there were lots of different races fighting battles when the world was engulfed by the warp energy.

Having looked at a detailed timeline, your right I do have some inaccuracies. You are right on all accounts except Bretonnia. They are still a tribe throughtout Sigmar's life, Gilis Le Breton, doesn't form the Kingdom until 979.
The beastmen part was to say they are mostly in the north, but it's really just semantics.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Is it sad I already have the funds trapped up and ready to go on this... will I ever learn.

Same, unless the Chaos Knight from FW comes out before this(doubtful) I'm all in for this. Whatever "this" is. Unless its Dreadfleet 2nd edition...

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
some new art from my local GW on facebook



(less blue, more spooky skulls)

Given that that's the exact same hammer (and comet trails!) from the cover of the 8E book, I'm gonna call it a 'shop job. While they've always had Ghal Maraz on the cover, the art has been different between editions.

Everytime I see that 'hammer' image, I keep thinking they are going all 40K on us - by adding a jump pack to the hammer.

Time for a new design, pretty-please!

The game is called "Warhammer", right?

And isn't is supposed to be a combination of the hammer and the comet of Sigmar?

http://warhammerfb.wikia.com/wiki/Cult_of_Sigmar

GW rep called my FLGS today - wanted to know number of Fantasy books he had on shelves - it's a Tier 4 store, so he would get full recompense on their costs. GW is taking questions from FLGS for the next two weeks, sending to Nottingham, then a FAQ will be sent out.

To be clear - it was NOT asked to send back books.

Pretty dicey stuff there, GW. All current models are confirmed for now, except for End Times. Those will be addressed in FAQ.

 Coyote81 wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I've had a long, hard think about this (about 5 mins ) and I've came to the conclusion that maybe the Age of Sigmar really is the age of Sigmar.

In other words, we should take GW at their word.

It's a possibility that they've went back to the beginning, and decided to set 9th in pre-Empire days.

Most of the races were around back then...

This is the best and most interesting guess I've heard yet. This has a lot of potential, and sounds just like something GW would do. They didn't destroy the world, at least not permanently, they just gave Sigmar a chance to win the fight for the good guys.

The big question, What was the state of each of the races during this time, and how would they fit into this 6 faction idea for the new edition?

Beastmen - They should exist, probably more so in the northern waste then spare all over the old world
Bretonnia - The realms of men haven't really founded this nation yet
Daemons of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Dark Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Dwarfs - They are alive and well in the mountains and befriended Sigmar
High Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves
Lizardmen - The servants of the Old ones prosper
Ogre Kingdoms - I guess they hadn't changed
Orcs & Goblins - Alive and causing havoc as normal
Skaven - No sign of them yet, but they should exist, but probably warrinjg amongst each other, maybe pre- council of 13
The Empire - Men haven't found this one yet
Tomb Kings - At war with Settra
Vampire Counts - Learning the Dark arts from nagash
Warriors of Chaos - They exist in the northern wastes
Wood Elves - The Sundering has not occurred yet, there is only one faction of Elves

Based on this information, The following Groups exist: Men, Dwarfs, Elves, Lizardmen, Hordes of Chaos, Ogres, O&G, Skaven, Undead

Based on relative location, we could have groups like:

Men + Dwarfs

Hordes of Chaos

O&G + Ogres

Skaven

Undead

Lizardmen + Elves

Having read Many of the Time of Legends books. I for one hope that they do reset the clock, remake the world into the time of Sigmar.

Few bits and pieces - I too love the Age of Legends books :

The Sundering hapened long before Sigmar as did the War of the Beard/Vengeance
The Dwarves are only just starting to ally with Sigmar following his rescue of the High King
Nagash was thought the be destroyed by the Skaven and the Vampires are scattered to the various corners of the world - as he sets off to reclaim his crown Nagash gets a single vampire (Khalid) from Neferta in Silver Pinancle so he can make more.
Skaven are very active
The human tribes are quite distinctive at this time and would make very cool armies - IMO

However It does look like they are starting a whole new world with some survivors.....

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
Am I the only one to think there is something wrong with the colors used for this new "Age of Sigmar"? I mean, yellow on blue...it doesn't feel like a grim and dark universe to me. It feels like something...blank, a new useless product made by some marketing team.

We'll see what's this all about in a month, I guess. But that really starts on the wrong foot, to me...

Spoiler:

Build your own game!

Of course, you could always get a great deal, too. Just go to...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The game is called "Warhammer", right?

The following is my filtering of rumours:

It'll be called Age of Sigmar; there will be no '9th' or 'Warhammer'.

There will be a loyal vs chaos starter boxset. This is where the skirmish rumours come from. The big rulebook will follow shortly afterwards. Both in July.

There will be FAQ-esque lists for current armies to transfer over until the new versions are released (in whatever form they arrive - whether by army or faction). Not sure if at launch or staggered via digital and/or WD releases.

Yay another ravening hordes reset

So I spoke to my FLGS owner today. He says he knows for a fact that Age of Sigmar is NOT going to be a board game. 100% war game.

What do you guys think will happen to existing WHFB kits? Do you think ones like Lizardmen will be discontinued? I'm trying to stock up on as many as I can for Mordheim kitbashes :/

I couldn't see GW removing so many awesome plastic kits though, especially ones like Dwarves that are still relatively new