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So nothing of note then... one more week it seems for some actual interesting info.

I Love how you can't see a single base in those pictures.

Is GW trolling us?

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 notprop wrote:
The current WD denote the next issue as including a look back on Warhammer (the games that is) history so I wouldn't expect an asexual lot on AoS stuff in it, just a recap of the End Times and a setup for the new Fluff. With a full release next week.

I'm sorry, but expect what?!!!

Yes, I am afraid that Slannesh has decided to be celibate. (I think that somebody had a problem with an automatic spellchecker....)

The Auld Grump

Am I going crazy? Or did I just have a post disappear completely for the second time today? Is there a MOD that has it out for me? Am I breaking a rule?

Back on topic. My guess on the 'not showing bases' in the WD pics is that they will be pushing the round/oval bases with this new game and those studio models still have square/rectangle bases....they might also be going for a more 'Cinematic' look, making it look more like a narrative snap-shot from the story, rather than two models facing each other.

HobbyBox wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
This teaser just raises more questions like...

Why is Sigmar cosplaying as Karl Franz?

I mean doesn't old Siggy at least rate a model of his own, or even a new head or something?

Did Sigz ever ride a griffon even? I remember him being on foot all the time.

Those questions are answered in the last few End Times books.

Yep, as the WD leaks describe, he takes over the body of Karl Franz after he was killed in Glottkin. All of the pictures were of various End Times things that happened. Here's hoping for a new figure if he is a usable model in AoS, I would love to see an on foot and mounted set similar to the Valten figures.

Yeah I always thought of Sigz as a big hulking conan type, no shirt, fur cape, long hair, big ole hammer.

Not a dainty dandy with feathers in his hat.

Have we reprinted this from BoLS yet?

We also have this piece of information from “Mikhael” indicating just how much of a change Age of Sigmar may be:

Regarding Age of Sigmar Product Changes

Retailers have been informed that these kits are will be pulled shortly after Age of Sigmar ships:
Empire Free Company
Empire State Troops
Empire Handgunners / Crossbowmen
Empire Great cannon / Mortar
Reiksguard / Knightly Order Box

Khorne Chaoslord on Juggernaut
Galrauch
Marauders of Chaos
Warriors of Chaos
Chosen
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth

Seems a shame to lose all those Empire foot troops, at least Frost Glaive seems to fill the gap of rough and ready medieval troops.

Things being pulled doesn't mean that they're being discontinued. It might be that they're going to change out the boxes.

State Troops and Handgunners/Crossbowmen at $25/10 aren't a bad deal...but it might be that they are going to be placed into a "combined box" since "State Troops" really refers to Halberdiers, Handgunners, Crossbowmen, Swordsmen, and Spearmen.
Free Company have been around for a LONG time. I'm surprised it's taken this long for them to go away.
Knights and the Great Cannon/Mortar are the same.

Now, on the Chaos side? I'm surprised to see Warriors of Chaos listed there, but the rest isn't surprising.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Spoiler:

Yeah I always thought of Sigz as a big hulking conan type, no shirt, fur cape, long hair, big ole hammer.

Not a dainty dandy with feathers in his hat.

Have we reprinted this from BoLS yet?

We also have this piece of information from “Mikhael” indicating just how much of a change Age of Sigmar may be:

Regarding Age of Sigmar Product Changes

Retailers have been informed that these kits are will be pulled shortly after Age of Sigmar ships:
Empire Free Company
Empire State Troops
Empire Handgunners / Crossbowmen
Empire Great cannon / Mortar
Reiksguard / Knightly Order Box

Khorne Chaoslord on Juggernaut
Galrauch
Marauders of Chaos
Warriors of Chaos
Chosen
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth

Seems a shame to lose all those Empire foot troops, at least Frost Glaive seems to fill the gap of rough and ready medieval troops.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Yeah I always thought of Sigz as a big hulking conan type, no shirt, fur cape, long hair, big ole hammer.

Not a dainty dandy with feathers in his hat.

Unfortunately, Karl Franz's body isn't a "big hulking Conan type".

I don't even play WHFB, but I might need to buy a Dragon Ogre Shaggoth. I just looked it up and love the aesthetic of it, and could easily give it a home in a KoW Abyssal Dwarves army.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Now, on the Chaos side? I'm surprised to see Warriors of Chaos listed there, but the rest isn't surprising.

Yeah agree with that. Lovely sculpts and quite iconic; would have expected them to be kept on. Maybe GW has some new ones in the pipeline

As far as those White Dwarf screenshots go, the writing is fairly poor and uninspiring; getting fairly worried about the new fluff they bring out for this in a few weeks time now.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Yeah I always thought of Sigz as a big hulking conan type, no shirt, fur cape, long hair, big ole hammer.

Not a dainty dandy with feathers in his hat.

Unfortunately, Karl Franz's body isn't a "big hulking Conan type".

True, but now that the world is exploded and Sigmar is just a comet flying through space, he can kind of take any form he wants when he lands on this new planet/bubble/reality. Which means GW can make a new model for him ($$$$$$).

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 theHandofGork wrote:
GW is putting it's focus entirely on 40k.

It's about damn time.

GW has been a 40k company for the past decade, and expanding WFB to split factions was a colossal waste of money and effort for everyone.

It's asinine how GW stuck with their buggy whip of a game for as long as they did.

As GW had more customers when they made more games I'd disagree with you.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Have we reprinted this from BoLS yet?

We also have this piece of information from “Mikhael” indicating just how much of a change Age of Sigmar may be:

Regarding Age of Sigmar Product Changes

Retailers have been informed that these kits are will be pulled shortly after Age of Sigmar ships:
Empire Free Company
Empire State Troops
Empire Handgunners / Crossbowmen
Empire Great cannon / Mortar
Reiksguard / Knightly Order Box

Khorne Chaoslord on Juggernaut
Galrauch
Marauders of Chaos
Warriors of Chaos
Chosen
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth

Seems a shame to lose all those Empire foot troops, at least Frost Glaive seems to fill the gap of rough and ready medieval troops.

Odd that the Free Company, Knightly Orders and Canon are being pulled when they are already directly only?? :-p

At first glance this looks like the whole Empire range might be dropped, but as other non direct only Empire kits are staying, and that those kits have the feathers and quills aesthetic to them, I am hoping the above kits are simply getting reworked :-D

 Tamereth wrote:
I Love how you can't see a single base in those pictures.

Is GW trolling us?

I thought the same thing

Can we stop the QQ, Gw hates me and you and all of our moms, and get back to the topic?

Was at a GW Store today. Manager said books are still for sale for information purpose and he has plenty still. Just have to declare they are not usable with the age of sigmar.
They are not on the shelves, you just have to ask.

Further they have been going to work/sales clinics and one is this weekend in Minn. So hopefully we will get some reliable, non spolier, indication as what direction the game is going.

If fantasy sales have dropped, here is the play I would make as GW. Copy a format similiar to other games, such as 40k, warmachine, infinity... whatever it may be. Tweak it and see if the skirmish takes off, if not have rules and tools in place to do a later release of actual 9th that can be piggy back on Age of Sigmar, current non skirmish format, if that is the case. In either case, 8th edition is still good with all the tourney comps. Picked up a beastmen book of all things, and 2 beastmen battalions!!!

Hmmm. Sigmar preorders are the 4th, right?

So what are the releases for Jul 3?

Windrider Host?

 Talys wrote:
Hmmm. Sigmar preorders are the 4th, right?

So what are the releases for Jul 3?

These I guess
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/653486.page

Could they not be pulling those boxes to re-issue them with round bases? *twiddles moustache*

Admittedly doesn't seem likely with the oldest kits on the list but as other people have said, some of those are quite serviceable and iconic.

They didn't pull any 40k boxes to change bases from 25mm to 32mm.

They just made a new box, had stores sell through the 25s while offering a baggy of 32s then after the 25mm boxes were sold through--the 32s hit the shelves.

Prediction.

Chaos warriors get redone with the new faction box, combining knights/marauder horseman, then making a new chaos warrior with options not found on their current sprue and a new sculpt, making people spend oodles on chaos.

I personally hate the GW Chaos Warrior unit. The strange mono-pose leaves hardly ANY room for customization within the kit. They seem way to orderly for an army of chaos murderers. Nor does it contain the bits for two of the most popular weapons, great weapons and halberds.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Yup this is going to be herohammer all the way.

Well, Heldenhammer translated into english means hero's hammer and it's Age of Sigmar. So yeah it's the Age of Herohammer more or less.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Hmmm. Sigmar preorders are the 4th, right?

So what are the releases for Jul 3?

These I guess
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/653486.page

Boring! It's supposed to be no week left unmodelled

The Windrider Host looks kind of like a good deal. Unfortunately, if I get 9 more windriders, and actually PLAY them, people will accuse me of windrider spam hahahaha.

That Windrider box also looks like a way better deal than the new Space Marines battle boxes.

 Kanluwen wrote:
They didn't pull any 40k boxes to change bases from 25mm to 32mm.

They just made a new box, had stores sell through the 25s while offering a baggy of 32s then after the 25mm boxes were sold through--the 32s hit the shelves.

I can't verify that as I didn't go through it myself but even so, the only pattern GW have is that they have no pattern, etc. Still seems plausible they're pulling them to reissue at least some of the kits with new bases, packaging, etc.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 theHandofGork wrote:
GW is putting it's focus entirely on 40k.

It's about damn time.

GW has been a 40k company for the past decade, and expanding WFB to split factions was a colossal waste of money and effort for everyone.

It's asinine how GW stuck with their buggy whip of a game for as long as they did.

I assume this is sarcasm as fantasy is and always has been a far superior system to 40k, it's just not as unique a setting and isn't as dumbed down, making it more challenging. 40k isn't a better game, it's just an easier/simpler game. Or it was until they complicated everything to the point of absurdity. Now it's not dumbed down, it's just full slow. And you never go full slow. Bad GW.


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Also, chaos warriors are still a fantastic deal: less than $3 a figure. Not surprised they'd go up, and they're fairly old (6th Ed)

 Thunderfrog wrote:
Prediction.

Chaos warriors get redone with the new faction box, combining knights/marauder horseman, then making a new chaos warrior with options not found on their current sprue and a new sculpt, making people spend oodles on chaos.

I personally hate the GW Chaos Warrior unit. The strange mono-pose leaves hardly ANY room for customization within the kit. They seem way to orderly for an army of chaos murderers. Nor does it contain the bits for two of the most popular weapons, great weapons and halberds.

I would almost agree, except the Warriors of Chaos Battalion box art was updated about a year ago - why would they spend that money on new artwork if they were going to have new sculpts?

If its only Empire and WoC that get kits pulled, most generic explanations (like boxes get rebased) sounds unlikely.
If true, it looks like these two armies get updates, or they would have pulled far more kits from other armies, right?

Anyway, I thought the fantasy kits had already started coming with round bases. Im sure my FLGS guy said so.

 Fayric wrote:
If its only Empire and WoC that get kits pulled, most generic explanations (like boxes get rebased) sounds unlikely.
If true, it looks like these two armies get updates, or they would have pulled far more kits from other armies, right?

Anyway, I thought the fantasy kits had already started coming with round bases. Im sure my FLGS guy said so.

I wouldn't be surprised if those models pulled were pulled for one of two reasons:

1) They will be included, in whole or in part, in the AOS boxed set, or

2) GW plans to 'rebox' them and lower the mini-count/up the price, as they've been so nice to do for us in the past.

Just a guess, though.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Have we reprinted this from BoLS yet?

We also have this piece of information from “Mikhael” indicating just how much of a change Age of Sigmar may be:

Regarding Age of Sigmar Product Changes

Retailers have been informed that these kits are will be pulled shortly after Age of Sigmar ships:
Empire Free Company
Empire State Troops
Empire Handgunners / Crossbowmen
Empire Great cannon / Mortar
Reiksguard / Knightly Order Box

Khorne Chaoslord on Juggernaut
Galrauch
Marauders of Chaos
Warriors of Chaos
Chosen
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth

Seems a shame to lose all those Empire foot troops, at least Frost Glaive seems to fill the gap of rough and ready medieval troops.

The Empire troops are all generic late medieval/renaissance troops that GW is trying to move away from IP wise. More surprised the great swords aren't on the list as they fall into that category as well. Suspect they are moving away from the Conan/heavy armor look of chaos as well. Not sure what will replace both factions.

Based on everything I have been reading over the last few months, one of the older release schedules had WHFB on a 6 week release, as well as a few precedences that GW have set with release like Khorne Daemonkin my predictions are as follows:

Week 1 - Age of sigmar starter kit and skirmish game
Week 2 - 9th edition mass battles (Harry mentioned last week i think that he thought 9th edition would drop within weeks of AoS so it may possibly be Empire first then 9th then chaos)
Week 3 and 4 - Empire including codex (if codexs are still a thing)
Week 5 and 6 - Chaos including codex (again if codexs are still a thing)
40k Week 1 - Tzzentch daemonkin and lord of change

That is of course based on the assumption that the 6 week release window that was rumoured is still true, those rumours were also talking about 9th edition being released earlier in the year so its possible that we may see an 8 week release or something I dont know but I am fully expecting to see chaos and empire released first followed by the other factions in future release windows.

Anyway these are my thoughts based on what i have read over the last few months.

Fez