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 namiel wrote:
steve the warboss has an atrocious accuracy rate. Pile on the salt

Did he not definitely say it was going to be a board game not long back?

 edlowe wrote:

 namiel wrote:
steve the warboss has an atrocious accuracy rate. Pile on the salt

Did he not definitely say it was going to be a board game not long back?

All from StW:

PENDING Warhammer Fantasy Rumors - June 2015
via Steve the Warboss 6-24-2015

Age of Sigmar Contents

1x Empire General on Griffin
5x Knights of Sigmar
10x State Troops with Spears
10x State Troops with Muskets

1x Lord of Khorne on Daemonsteed
5x Chaos Knights
10x Chaos Warriors

-No small rulebook
-Full rules for all models
-Small intro of the fluff (Humans only)
-5 Scenarios to introduce players
-Text is written very childfriendly

PENDING Warhammer Fantasy Rumors - May 2015
VIA Steve the Warboss

Age of Sigmar is not the Starter Set of the 9th Edition. It will be a Board Game like Space Hulk or Execution Force and with this Set, the Releases of the 9th Edition will begin.

PENDING Warhammer Fantasy Rumors - May 2015
WFB 9th Release Window Details

-6 Weeks of Releases
-Rulebook and Accessories
-Starter Set
-First Armybook (Empire)
-Released in quick succession
-“Sigmarites” are only another Knightly Order

PENDING Warhammer Fantasy Rumors - Dec 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
Warhammer 9th rumors?
To complete the Year I have some new Infos.
-Second Army in starter is still unknown
-Starter includes two booklets
-The first is a typical booklet with starter rules and profiles without special rules ect.
-The second is like them from the 40k campaign sets with following content:

-Story
-Scenarios
-Full Rules for all Models in the Box including special rules
-The Profiles and Models can be used as unique characters and units in standard games

PENDING 9th Edition Fantasy Rumors - Nov 2014
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
I have first Informations for the 9th Edition of Warhammer Fantasy Battles:

-One Profiles for Mounted Units (like Endtimes)
-Endtimes was full designed for the new Edition, the Books will be 100% compatible
-No Armybook releases until the new Edition
-Empire in the starter, the enemy is still not determinated


Steve the Warboss, making crap up since Aug 2014.

Steve the Warboss - Total rumors: (34 TRUE) / (79 FALSE) / (6 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Or stating the obvious.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that whatever they're doing with Monsters will incorporate the "single profile for mounted units" to prevent sniping riders off their mounts.

Age of Sigmar Contents
1x Empire General on Griffin
5x Knights of Sigmar
10x State Troops with Spears
10x State Troops with Muskets

1x Lord of Khorne on Daemonsteed
5x Chaos Knights
10x Chaos Warriors

-No small rulebook
-Full rules for all models
-Small intro of the fluff (Humans only)
-5 Scenarios to introduce players
-Text is written very childfriendly

This does sound very much like a complete reboot product. Something aimed squarely at new players who have no experience with Warhammer. It’s smaller in scale and number of models than the 40K starter boxes, so the big question for me as an industry watcher is what pricepoint Nottingham will set for this. If they can bring in an introductory set at somewhat below $100, and the miniature quality is high (and it will be), this could be a big hit.

I don't believe this at all.

Stormclaw and Deathstorm were both repacks of old models, but they had 2 exclusive figures and a mini rulebook.

They sold very well, I don't see why GW would deviate from this formula for AOS

Stormclaw and Deathstorm both had campaign supplements tied to them.
I would expect whatever the new game is will have its own box, and we'd see campaign supplements later on as old books get redone.

From what I've been told, the campaign supplements(which generally were done "between" two major Codex releases) were really good for sales.

 mdauben wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
No one's posted this?

From the Bell

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/06/breaking-age-of-sigmar-box-contents.html

I certrainly hope this is BS, because if true I can't see why anyone would buy it. Old minis and a crippled rule book? No thanks. The only way I see the AoS being any kind of success is if its packed with really brilliant new miniatures that will appeal to both new and old players.

Sorry, but my understanding is that a GW Fantasy starter looks something more like this:


or this:


While the Empire stuff generally matches the IOB Elves, the Chaos stuff is dramatically reduced in content compared to the Skaven.

Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

NoggintheNog wrote:

 namiel wrote:
Its almost all we talk about at my local gw. Sure their are lots of 40k players but the entire fantasy crowd has been wishlisting and talking about it a lot. Helps the store manager is 99% fantasy and only 1% 40k. Midnight release is planned, he is getting rid of any 40k tables and terrain and replacing it with fantasy, etc. Lots of skeptics but still everyone is waiting to see what happens and plenty of 40k only players talking about making the jump into fantasy now if its affordable.

Unfortunately this is the exact way GW builds up a lot of the resentment it generates from customers. No information, so its all wishlisting, and as you say at the end the assumption that 'now its affordable'.

The problem comes when what is released does not match those wishlists, or is not as affordable as some are hoping. This has a tendency to then become a GW problem, rather than just people getting the wrong idea. A recent example is the assassin game, a lack of information led to a build up of ideas about what it would be, and in the end it was just 4 new models with a load of extra sprues from a starter box for a typically GW pricepoint. If we had all known for 2 months beforehand that was what it was, would the disappointment been as prevalent? I'm not sure, the assassins are nice models after all.

This is the main issue with the no advertising thing, GW do not control the narrative, which inevitably leads to disappointment, and annoyed customers. They do only have themselves to blame for it though.

very true. they should be giving us something to get excited about it rather then us just speculating. We are optimistic but still waiting to see exactly what it is.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Agreed 100%....must be false rumour if this wasn't included.
I need more whippy sticks!!!!!

I hope they have them actually! I lost all my old ones and there is a Wryd spell in Necromunda that's AoE is specifically one of those range finders :-p (gotta love old school rules).

If true, this might be the first GW starter since 2002 that I'm not going to buy. I don't care for either army, and if there's no full rulebook, there really is no reason for me to buy it.

I was doing inventory just the other day and I have 2 starters' worth of Night Goblins and Skaven and almost 5 starters' worth of Dwarves (not to mention 3x each of AOBR and DV), so you could say I'm a starter set enthusiast.

Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy stick

haha

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Whippy stick is right. Those things hurt like a B!

 Jambles wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Whippy stick is right. Those things hurt like a B!

I don't understand. What else are they meant to be used for?

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

One of the greatest statements I have ever read on Dakka

Have an exalt

My children fear the whippy sticks.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

One of the greatest statements I have ever read on Dakka

Have an exalt

Thank you very much

In retrospect, it is now plainly obvious why the Hobbit starter set sold so poorly...

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Jambles wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Whippy stick is right. Those things hurt like a B!

I don't understand. What else are they meant to be used for?

Well, adulthood certainly opened up a few more options. The GF is a fan, for example...

 Jambles wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Jambles wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Whippy stick is right. Those things hurt like a B!

I don't understand. What else are they meant to be used for?

Well, adulthood certainly opened up a few more options. The GF is a fan, for example...

Lucky. I never could get my wife into the hobby.

I don't think he was talking about the hobby, mate. ;-)

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-first-leaks-age-of-sigmar-free-rules.html#more

We have some solid information now that looks like it was accidentally put onto the German Games Workshop website. The best part is that we have the screenshots that reveal that the Age of Sigmar will come with Free Rules.


I have checked the website, and this is no longer there, or at least that I could find.

Please take this as a rumor right now, until at least someone can either find it or verify it. I have closely checked the images and the site, and it all seems to line up.


The page reads like this......
"Contained within this free download is the core ruleset needed in order to begin your own adventures within the Age of Sigmar. This four-page PDF is yours to keep, print out and play with, and when combined with the Warscroll Compendium or two-available below, also totally free- is everything you need to know. Grab it, read it, and begin playing right away!"


Here are the images sent in by a reader on Faeit 212
A member of our gaming group send a screengrab of the German webstore with
a pod of Macragge Blue labled as Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Rules (PDF).

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I don't think he was talking about the hobby, mate. ;-)

Its his other hobby.

OgreChubbs wrote:
Ogres better make a come back I just spent 4 hours sculpting a new ogre tyrant and need to spend another 60+ lol

Last night I played my first small game of Kings of War with an Ogre army - my good lady had control of the dwarfs.
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...
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Ow.

Next time, I hope we are allies - the result was a draw, with a pretty heavy death toll on both sides. (In a campaign game it would have been crippling for both of us.)

We have decided that we need some chariots for our ogre forces - if my ogres had gotten to the enemy faster, allowing the Red Goblins to hold the objectives, I think that I would have won. As it was, we each ended up only holding the objective closest to our deployment zones. (Most often the ogres will be an ally for the dwarfs.)

That horrible, horrible Red Goblin Blaster would also have made a difference - taking out even one of her Ironclad units would have freed up an objective. (The Blaster is pretty much a cart filled with explosives - and counts toward the enemies victory points when it aslodes. But any unit with in range is in for a world of hurt - 2d6 hits with Crushing Strength 4.)

On the plus side, their tactics were pretty simple - get in close, and lay waste. (For the record - the ogre Shooters with Blunderbusses were freakin' awesome! They are why the dwarfs didn't win. Great in hand to hand and at range.)

For some reason, I have an urge to paint up an army of Ogre Highlanders, complete with kilts and bagpipes.

The Auld Grump

Hmm, why put a pdf listing in the webstore and this mention of warscrolls compendium?

On the other hand with GW's love of digital, maybe the plan is to save money on actually printing the ruleset for the starter and instead hope/pray people will print themselves or use it on a device, and the fans will buy the £50 tome anyway.

Hope not, either way if there are no physical rules in the box, no deal, but to the target market 12 year old's parents they won't care as they'll just buy him another tablet when he loses/drops the one the rules are on.....

You know....

What if Warhammer Age of Sigmar really instead is just a board game, but we get something awesome, like, a dungeon crawler?

I mean...begin my Adventures with the free pdf rulebook? Adventures? Doesn't sound like a battle word.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Hmm, why put a pdf listing in the webstore and this mention of warscrolls compendium?

On the other hand with GW's love of digital, maybe the plan is to save money on actually printing the ruleset for the starter and instead hope/pray people will print themselves or use it on a device, and the fans will buy the £50 tome anyway.

Hope not, either way if there are no physical rules in the box, no deal, but to the target market 12 year old's parents they won't care as they'll just buy him another tablet when he loses/drops the one the rules are on.....

To be fair, it says the rules are 4 pages; we don't know how many pages the warscroll (the blurb says it's free too) will be but if the core rules are 4 pages, they can't be too taxing on the printer.

Im gussing the warscrolls might be army lists????????

Warscroll compendium sounds suspiciously like army/stat lists for the existing models

download and play with them now, new models will come with them in the box

Doesn't sound too terrible; here's hoping the rules writers didn't get themselves in too much trouble with only 4 pages...

 Jambles wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Also, the rumour made no mention of red whippy sticks.

Cannot have a proper starter set without red whippy sticks

Whippy stick is right. Those things hurt like a B!

Perhaps GW is emergency diverting those to their one man stores for managers to "encourage" higher sales from the remaining employees. If one isn't included, perhaps there will be a deluxe whippy stick with LE direct only faux gold barb embellishments to mark the inches for only $50.