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Personally I find those models utterly stunning, although my partner immediately bagsied the Sigmar faction :(. Looking forward to the 4th .

 ImAGeek wrote:
Which IMO sounds much much better than painting 100-200 clanrats for a skaven army...

What about those that already have 300 skeletons painted? Or 400 zombies? :/

The models look very cool, but they don't look much like the part of WHFB that I like. That part is the gritty, dirty, downtrodden side, fantasy horror combined with traditional fantasy concepts. These models are going more towards the Warmahordes design sensibilities, and I completely loathe Warmahordes designs. Mind you, these don't look as inane as the gigantic shoulderpad-on-shoulderpad look of that game, but it's way too close for comfort. Still, I might very well change my mind. On the positive side, there looks to be a LOT of content in the starter set, and I'm very excited about the potential of Warhammer as a skirmish game.

I will wait for close-ups of the models before commenting further, condemning them based on these blurry pics would be stupid.

 Desubot wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
God you guys are all doom and gloom. Its as if there are ZERO other armies to play... "omg Space marines" Games ruined cuss I clearly have to only play space marines...

It shows the new direction of WHFB.

Quite frankly im not seeing the Space marines in all of that.

They are guys in heavy armor. the gold might be a tad much but im not seeing genetic super soldiers (Also hate the head which is the only thing that reminds me of BA)

I'm with you. They look like Knights. Space Marines vaguely look like Knights.

As for the general mount, it almost looks like something you'd see in lizardmen.

Good god. This will make or break fantasy.

NunoTaborda wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Which IMO sounds much much better than painting 100-200 clanrats for a skaven army...

What about those that already have 300 skeletons painted? Or 400 zombies? :/

Then wait for the inevitable "Fantapocalypse" so you can play massive horde armies again. Actually, that could work quite well, thinking about it.

I don't think they look like knights. They look like someone's interpretation of what a knight might look like, if they'd never really seen a real one but had seen lots of ornamental armour for noblemen in the Renaissance period which was utterly impractical for fighting in and pretty much only used to impress people with how pretty it is.


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Btw if you have a bajillion models painted up in blocks, well, Kings of War is right there and the rules are free to download. I recommend giving it a shot.

 Bull0 wrote:
I keep reading "don't buy them if you don't like them", which kinda misses the point - specifically, if these are indicative of the future direction for WFB, it's a problem for some WFB fans because a lot of the old charm is missing in favour of some very 40k-looking stuff.

Whether they are indicative or not, only time will tell, but it can't be written off as easily as "don't buy the models if you don't like them". And by the way? No gak. As if people need to be told not to buy things they don't like.

From a non FB player who was looking at AoS as a possible jumping off point, so less invested, standpoint, I'm seeing some cracking chaos models who don't deviate notably from the established aesthetic, except to possibly improve of some of the stuff that's gone before, and a new faction, with a new aesthetic. Now, this aesthetic is obviously divisive, but to worry about the whole game based on this army is no different than if people had lost their gak when Lizardmen dropped because they looked nothing like High Elves.

The established fluff is already in the toilet, and will probably be focused on the new guys going forward, but if the rules are bent towards the Sigmorons then that's something to worry about. Otherwise they're just a new faction that some people may care for, while others may not.

Just prior to the whole End Times thing, I almost started a Tomb Kings army - my first delve into Fantasy

Whispers on the internet and amongst the club members said 'hold off, End Times will happen and things might change'


And so the End Times happened. I started to consider Tomb Kings again and then more whispers of 'Something big is going to happen soon! Hold off and see'



Well, this 40K-meets-Diablo III isn't doing it for me as a fantasy setting.

Sure the Sigmar / Diablo III angels force looks pretty, and sure the Diablo III Chaos Dark-Vengeance set look suitably corrupt... having two squads of cultists, a helbrute and a chaos lord. But it isn't the 'fantasy historical' theme that was catching my interest.


Perhaps I'll hold off for longer.

Previously, when I looked at 40k a model without knowing what it was, I would at least know it as a 40k model. When I looked at a Fantasy model, I could also tell it was a Fantasy model. There is a visual style that separated the two games and it was really cool.

If I had never heard of Age of Sigmar and someone showed me these guys, I'd think they were new Blood Angels or maybe even some weird take on Custodes. That makes me kinda sad.

oh well.. WFB started off as a complete fluff rip-off of Middle Earth anyway. Might as well just rip-off 40k now.

I need so many of those angel wings tho

 Da Boss wrote:


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Btw if you have a bajillion models painted up in blocks, well, Kings of War is right there and the rules are free to download. I recommend giving it a shot.

It's not played here in Portugal... :(

Wulfmar wrote:Just prior to the whole End Times thing, I almost started a Tomb Kings army - my first delve into Fantasy

Whispers on the internet and amongst the club members said 'hold off, End Times will happen and things might change'


And so the End Times happened. I started to consider Tomb Kings again and then more whispers of 'Something big is going to happen soon! Hold off and see'



Well, this 40K-meets-Diablo III isn't doing it for me as a fantasy setting.

Sure the Sigmar / Diablo III angels force looks pretty, and sure the Diablo III Chaos Dark-Vengeance set look suitably corrupt... having two squads of cultists, a helbrute and a chaos lord. But it isn't the 'fantasy historical' theme that was catching my interest.


Perhaps I'll hold off for longer.

Wait till the new undead units show up...

I like it. Will have to see what rules are but nice models. The chaos side i see a unit of wracks for my dark eldar and possesed for my csm plus cultists. The sigma side are beutiful. My son wants the flying dudes to be swooping hawks and the armoured ones dont know what they will be used for yet. On the fantasy side id like to know about dwarfs and ogres as there my armyies. Hence the rules will decide if i continue with fantasy. Eith way im getting a set or two just for those lovely minis.

Regardless of where you stand on liking, or not liking these new models, Fantasy has always been a steampunk meets renaissance look, and quite frankly, this look is miles away.

I can't believe that 30 years of design is going straight out the window.


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 DO IT TO IT wrote:
Previously, when I looked at 40k a model without knowing what it was, I would at least know it as a 40k model. When I looked at a Fantasy model, I could also tell it was a Fantasy model. There is a visual style that separated the two games and it was really cool.

If I had never heard of Age of Sigmar and someone showed me these guys, I'd think they were new Blood Angels or maybe even some weird take on Custodes. That makes me kinda sad.

Thief! I said that 3 pages ago

I wish someone would just put a picture of a space marine beside a sigmarine (or sigmanary guard perhaps) for comparison.
These new sigmarites dont fit the space marine aestethics one bit more than it fit old fantasy.
If anything, I think AoS look more like warmachine than 40k.
Just look at the wings, they are right out stolen from Warmachine and dont look anything like jump packs.

(ok, I admit they are somewhat similar to sanguinary guard, because of the helmets, but who in the world actually buys Sanguinary Guard? Sounds crazy to imitate that look for all the tricky cospirasies people see here.)

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
I keep reading "don't buy them if you don't like them", which kinda misses the point - specifically, if these are indicative of the future direction for WFB, it's a problem for some WFB fans because a lot of the old charm is missing in favour of some very 40k-looking stuff.

Whether they are indicative or not, only time will tell, but it can't be written off as easily as "don't buy the models if you don't like them". And by the way? No gak. As if people need to be told not to buy things they don't like.

From a non FB player who was looking at AoS as a possible jumping off point, so less invested, standpoint, I'm seeing some cracking chaos models who don't deviate notably from the established aesthetic, except to possibly improve of some of the stuff that's gone before, and a new faction, with a new aesthetic. Now, this aesthetic is obviously divisive, but to worry about the whole game based on this army is no different than if people had lost their gak when Lizardmen dropped because they looked nothing like High Elves.

The established fluff is already in the toilet, and will probably be focused on the new guys going forward, but if the rules are bent towards the Sigmorons then that's something to worry about. Otherwise they're just a new faction that some people may care for, while others may not.

I think it is a bit different - these are a human faction for starters, whereas lizards aren't elves, so it's a lot more reasonable to extrapolate from this that any future human/imperial stuff for WFB will look more like this and less like the Empire we know and love. Plus the context being totally different - they've *destroyed* the old world.

It's true that it's too soon to call it though - which is what I said.

 Da Boss wrote:
I don't think they look like knights. They look like someone's interpretation of what a knight might look like,

Like they are someone's umm... what's the word... fantasy interpretation of a knight?

Having seen those pictures, my mind has been made up. Must buy this set! Awesome looking new models, and if the game isn't that great, well, I've got my 8th stuff still, and I'll have a bunch of new stuff on top of it. Also, they do look damn nice on those round bases. At least now I know how to finish up my WoC force that I've been working on. Luckily, I have about 50 32mms sitting around, waiting to get used.

First thing I thought of was they look like Darksiders style angels.

But yeah, not feeling it. If I wanted to play a skirmish game with loose models I'd play one of the plethora of other skirmish games with loose models on the market.

Maybe GW can pull something out of the bag and create an awesome game, but given GW in recent years I'm not counting on anything more than an unbalanced and poorly written system aimed at flogging more overpriced models rather than actually being a good game. GW haven't written a good game in many years.

 pretre wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
I don't think they look like knights. They look like someone's interpretation of what a knight might look like,

Like they are someone's umm... what's the word... fantasy interpretation of a knight?

I was sure someone was going to make that point, and I'm rolling my eyes here. If that floats your boat, fine I guess. I think they look stupid and I won't be using them, as I prefer a more realistic looking troop in my fantasy gaming.

It's a bit of a shame. A little bit of a toning down and I think both sides would have been pleased, but with the sculpted on face-helmets and musculature and all that, these just do not do it for me at all.

I'm more willing to accept it on the Angels, as they are more obviously supposed to be fantastical and supernatural. But I like my humans to be humans, not supermen. Same problem I eventually hit with 40K and space marine saturation. Now it's come to Fantasy. Ah well. Hadn't played a game for 5 years anyhow.

Well I think we now know where the 30K box set rumors came from

So they just lost all pretense of subtly and stuck Space Marines in Fantasy. Of course, people will lap this up. No prizes for guessing what the most played faction will be.

I need to see the rules before I make any calls, but I have a very bad feeling in my gut about this. And this is doubly troubling for me because normally I am very laid back and patient about such things.

Now the models are pretty awesome, don't get me wrong, but my bad feeling comes from what might be coming in the rules. It feels like a massive wave of invalidation is coming.

I really really hope I am proved wrong.

What a bunch of high falootin fancy pants world of Warcraft bs. Grim dark is dead in fantasy.

 Da Boss wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
I don't think they look like knights. They look like someone's interpretation of what a knight might look like,

Like they are someone's umm... what's the word... fantasy interpretation of a knight?

I was sure someone was going to make that point, and I'm rolling my eyes here. If that floats your boat, fine I guess. I think they look stupid and I won't be using them, as I prefer a more realistic looking troop in my fantasy gaming.

It's a bit of a shame. A little bit of a toning down and I think both sides would have been pleased, but with the sculpted on face-helmets and musculature and all that, these just do not do it for me at all.

I'm more willing to accept it on the Angels, as they are more obviously supposed to be fantastical and supernatural. But I like my humans to be humans, not supermen. Same problem I eventually hit with 40K and space marine saturation. Now it's come to Fantasy. Ah well. Hadn't played a game for 5 years anyhow.

Arent the chaos side of things supposed to also be fantastical and supernatural. considered to basically be the daemon counter part?

I agree with the face mask thing. that gak turns me off so hard but its a non issue since it should be easy to replace.

You could do a cool Necromunda Spyrer conversion with those robo-angel wings...

I always knew that 40k was outstripping WHFB sales, but to make WHFB a 40k clone? Colour me confused.... Nice mini's though...

*sigh* What an overwrought mess of models. I really don't like the new trend of sculpting models that look like someone took a decent model, coated it in glue, then shook it in a box of skulls and trademarked insignia/icons.

Oh well, I have too much Mantic stuff occupying my attention as it is, with the Kings of War and Dungeon Saga kickstarters showing up in the next month or so. Never mind.

 Arbitrator wrote:
So they just lost all pretense of subtly and stuck Space Marines in Fantasy. Of course, people will lap this up. No prizes for guessing what the most played faction will be.

You mean subtlety? When has WHFB ever been subtle?? lol

Any chance someone could rehost the chaos picture? It's work blocked and I'm dying here :(