Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan

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**sing your life**

Kanluwen wrote:
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
migooo wrote:
I want to not be skeptical, I want to not be bitter

but transfers in a box like this. ?

AoBR had transfers in it.

So did Stormclaw, in fact the Stormclaw transfers have not been released outside of that box.

Stormclaw was boxset, not a starter set like AoBR.

**angelofvengeance**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how these threads always follow the same pattern.

First, the speculation. Then the fear due to lack of info. Then rage as frustration sets in at lack of info. Then info, and the sky falls in. Then more info, and everybody wants to marry Tom Kirby

This weekend, it'll be sky falling in again when people try the demo game. Then the game will be broken, and so on...

SO TRUE. Have an exalt, sir.

**Kanluwen**

sing your life wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
migooo wrote:
I want to not be skeptical, I want to not be bitter

but transfers in a box like this. ?

AoBR had transfers in it.

So did Stormclaw, in fact the Stormclaw transfers have not been released outside of that box.

Stormclaw was boxset, not a starter set like AoBR.

And yet, GW themselves referred to it as a "starter set" at times--given that it included the "Stormclaw" scenario rules(something critical to a starter set) and a mini-rulebook.

The only thing that really was divergent from traditional starter sets was the lack of templates, dice, and rulers.

**migooo**

I actually meant starter set . But still.

**namiel**

Kanluwen wrote:
sing your life wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
migooo wrote:
I want to not be skeptical, I want to not be bitter

but transfers in a box like this. ?

AoBR had transfers in it.

So did Stormclaw, in fact the Stormclaw transfers have not been released outside of that box.

Stormclaw was boxset, not a starter set like AoBR.

And yet, GW themselves referred to it as a "starter set" at times--given that it included the "Stormclaw" scenario rules(something critical to a starter set) and a mini-rulebook.

The only thing that really was divergent from traditional starter sets was the lack of templates, dice, and rulers.

I kind of agree since it had the full rulebook that it would be more of a starter set as some kid could pull it off the shelf and play. Sure there were no rulers, dice, or templates but really who uses just the 7 dice you get in the starter along with the whippy sticks? Almost everyone buys more dice and a tape measure. The templates is a different story but I myself have like 10 sets so I have no issues giving people sets for the hell of it.

**Sinful Hero**

I really like the Sigmar faction, minus the dual hammers. I especially like the mount.

Ambivalent towards the Chaos side though.

**StormKing**

So this 4 page ruleset will be available digitally for free....now that can't be the full rulebook. Its just for AoS set. Then they will charge $185 for a rulebook haha

**migooo**

chiefbigredman wrote:
So this 4 page ruleset will be available digitally for free....now that can't be the full rulebook. Its just for AoS set. Then they will charge $185 for a rulebook haha

From what im hearing the first big book will have base lists, background and maybe a bit of expanded rules for armies, but the base rules are suposedly those 4 pages

im not sure how much i believe it but still.

**ShaneTB**

namiel wrote:
ShaneTB wrote:
namiel wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
"Armies without limits"... soooo.... WHFB Unbound?

I was told by a good source that their will be 4 armybooks coming out in the future.(this im very solid on)

Not quite sure about this one but since gods are a huge part of AOS now that what you can bring in your army is dependent on which god your army follows. Salt this one but it sounds plausable

Good - Chaos - Destruction - Death. Would those be the four?

pretty much. I heard order, disorder, chaos, undead. So yeah

That makes sense. That way you can buy new forces without being 'bound' to a particular race. So if I like some new Orcs/Orks I can add them to a few Skaven models I think look neat and run them (both Destruction/Disorder). Like it's come full circle.

**guru**

take it with some salt

from warseer

Today info from my FLGS
4 page rules they are similar to the reference sheet of DV
In the 96 page book come with scenarios for learn to play with examples and lots of fluff for age of sigmar and the two army's (Stormcast Eternals & Khorne Goretide)

WARHAMMER AGE OF SIGMAR: BATTLE FOR THE GATES OF AZYR (ENGLISH) Format Starter Set Box Order From 4-Jul-15 Release Date 11-Jul-15

from marcu beli (spanish)

NOVEDADES AGE OF SIGMAR.

Os comunico las novedades del nuevo juego de Games Workshop. Son oficiales puesto que me las ha comunicado directamente mi comercial de Games Workshop. Para empezar quiero aclarar que será un juego nuevo, completamente nuevo, nada que ver con Warhammer Fantasy así que podemos casi asegurar que Warhammer Fantasy ha acabado tal y como lo conocemos, al menos por ahora.

--- REGLAMENTO ---
- El reglamento es muy escueto y sencillo (aunque no simple), con muy pocas páginas y reglas especiales, con lo que buscan que esté lo más equilibrado posible.
- El reglamento será completamente gratuito y de descarga. Incluirá una serie de fichas para que puedas adaptar TODAS tus miniaturas de Fantasy a Age of Sigmar. Esto significa que NO saldrá a la venta ningún libro básico ni nada por el estilo.

--- EL JUEGO ---
- La idea del juego es jugar con uno o varios héroes junto con su séquito en una serie de misiones distintas que pueden ser estilo escaramuza o batalla.
- Los ejércitos pueden ser de incluso unas 5 miniaturas con lo que el gasto inicial puede ser ridículamente bajo para alguien que empieza a jugar. Esto incluye a los que siempre hemos querido tener un ejército de skavens pero nos daba mucho palo pintar 5 mil ratas o simplemente no teníamos suficiente dinero Emoticono grin Ahora con pocas miniaturas te apañas y no hace falta que uses 30 iguales para montar una unidad.
- Podremos mezclar razas sin casi ninguna restricción. Sobre esto habrá siempre el típico nostálgico fanboy que verá aberraciones en mezclar orcos con skavens pero en la práctica puede ser muy divertido y GW ha hecho mucho incapié en que las reglas de cada miniatura están muy equilibradas precisamente para evitar combinaciones cataclísmicas.
- Las peanas son redondas pero se puede jugar con peanas triangulares si se quiere, ya que la peana no tiene ninguna interferencia con las reglas sino que es simplemente para aguantar la miniatura Emoticono grin

--- ¿QUÉ VIENE EN LA CAJA? ---
- Ya habéis visto las miniaturas filtradas en muchas webs. Esas son oficialmente las que vendrán en la caja: 47 modelos divididos en dos facciones, la luz y el caos.
- Incluye el manual en papel, con algunas páginas extras de trasfondo y guías de pintura.
- El precio de la caja es de 100€, unos 2€ por miniatura y alguna es bastante tocha.
- La escala de las miniaturas es la misma.

--- ¿Y LUEGO QUÉ? ---
- Seguirán sacando miniaturas nuevas de cada raza, todas con sus propias reglas que en principio seguirán saliendo de forma gratuita ya sea mediante White Dwarf o descarga en pdf.
- Previsiblemente sacarán también otras cajas con misiones y nuevo trasfondo para seguir la nueva historia de Age of Sigmar.

**ShaneTB**

guru wrote:
snip

Via Google Translate:

NEW AGE OF SIGMAR.

I communicate the news of the new game from Games Workshop. They are official since me has directly communicated my business from Games Workshop. For starters I want to clarify that will be a new game, completely new, nothing to do with Warhammer Fantasy so we can almost ensure that Warhammer Fantasy has ended as we know it, at least for now.

--- --- REGULATION
- The regulation is very short and simple (but not easy), with very few pages and special rules, which seek to be as balanced as possible.
- The regulation will be completely free and download. It will include a series of tabs so you can adapt all your miniatures of Fantasy Age of Sigmar. This means that there will be released any basic book or anything like that.

--- THE GAME ---
- The idea of the game is to play with one or more heroes along with his entourage in a number of different missions that can be skirmish or battle style.
- Armies can be about 5 thumbnails even so the initial outlay can be ridiculously low for someone to start playing. This includes those who have always wanted to have an army of Skaven but gave us much stick painting 5000 rats or simply did not have enough money Emoticon with few miniatures grin Now you Apanás and do not have to use 30 equal to mount a drive.
- We can mix breeds with hardly any restrictions. On this there will always be nostalgic fanboy typical aberrations that will mix with orcs skaven but in practice can be fun and GW has done much stress upon the rules of each model are balanced very precisely to avoid cataclysmic combinations.
- The bases are round but you can play with triangular bases if you will, as the base does not have any interference with the rules but simply to hold the miniature grin Emoticon

--- WHAT COMES IN THE BOX? ---
- You have seen the thumbnails filtered on many websites. Those are officially those to come in the box: 47 models divided into two factions, light and chaos.
- Includes manual on paper, with some extra pages of background and painting guides.
- The price of the box is € 100, € about 2 per model and some is quite tocha.
- The scale of the models is the same.

--- AND THEN WHAT? ---
- Will you continue taking new models of each race, all with their own rules which in principle keep coming for free either by White Dwarf or download in pdf.
- Predictably also draw other boxes with new missions and new background story to follow the Age of Sigmar.

**guru**

thx ShaneTB

**Crimson**

gorgon wrote:

Personally, I think AoS seems to be at least an attempt to address many common complaints about WFB, including high model counts, stale fluff, lack of a good starter army, too much grim dark, etc.

There is no such thing as too much grim dark!

**namiel**

ShaneTB wrote:
namiel wrote:
ShaneTB wrote:
namiel wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
"Armies without limits"... soooo.... WHFB Unbound?

I was told by a good source that their will be 4 armybooks coming out in the future.(this im very solid on)

Not quite sure about this one but since gods are a huge part of AOS now that what you can bring in your army is dependent on which god your army follows. Salt this one but it sounds plausable

Good - Chaos - Destruction - Death. Would those be the four?

pretty much. I heard order, disorder, chaos, undead. So yeah

That makes sense. That way you can buy new forces without being 'bound' to a particular race. So if I like some new Orcs/Orks I can add them to a few Skaven models I think look neat and run them (both Destruction/Disorder). Like it's come full circle.

it makes sense to me as well being how 40k went with all the supplemental codices. With 4 books you pay out the ass for then smaller faction books. Examples like cult of khaine. Sounds like a gw thing to do. Charge us $100 for each army book then 40(or more) for each supplement

**Sikil**

I, for one, realy like the sigmarites. I will miss the old, but can still play it. But I will buy the new and at least try it out. If the rules suck, I can still use the miniatures to make an epic diorama as a tribute to the End of a glorious era of Warhammer...

**Mr Morden**

What's the difference between Disorder and Chaos?

I would have thought:

Order: Lizardmen (?), Dwarves (?), Simgmarites (?)
Chaos: self explanatory + Skaven
Undead: Nagash and friends
Destruction: Orcs, Goblins, Ogres

Obviously there may well be some crossover

If the rules are in fact good and simple, it should be easy to make rules up for the old figures /armies

**namiel**

Mr Morden wrote:
What's the difference between Disorder and Chaos?

I would have thought:

Order: Lizardmen (?), Dwarves (?), Simgmarites (?)
Chaos: self explanatory + Skaven
Undead: Nagash and friends
Destruction: Orcs, Goblins, Ogres

Obviously there may well be some crossover

instead of destruction they call it disorder. Also was told that skaven fall under disorder not chaos.

**ShaneTB**

namiel wrote:

it makes sense to me as well being how 40k went with all the supplemental codices. With 4 books you pay out the ass for then smaller faction books. Examples like cult of khaine. Sounds like a gw thing to do. Charge us $100 for each army book then 40(or more) for each supplement

These rumours suggest the rules will be in the boxes/WD. So I don't expect to see a flurry of codexes. A rulebook per faction with core units and fluff would make sense. Then rules in the box for timed releases so they don't hog shelf space. Sell 'em for six months and then swap them for new units.

**lord_blackfang**

ShaneTB wrote:
namiel wrote:

it makes sense to me as well being how 40k went with all the supplemental codices. With 4 books you pay out the ass for then smaller faction books. Examples like cult of khaine. Sounds like a gw thing to do. Charge us $100 for each army book then 40(or more) for each supplement

These rumours suggest the rules will be in the boxes/WD. So I don't expect to see a flurry of codexes. A rulebook per faction with core units and fluff would make sense. Then rules in the box for timed releases so they don't hog shelf space. Sell 'em for six months and then swap them for new units.

Oh, sure, the rules for individual models might well come in the boxes.

But you're forgetting the free buffs that come from fielding a certain combination of miniatures. They will be selling us books full of those.

**Pepticsalve**

Mr Morden wrote:
What's the difference between Disorder and Chaos?

I would have thought:

Order: Lizardmen (?), Dwarves (?), Simgmarites (?)
Chaos: self explanatory + Skaven
Undead: Nagash and friends
Destruction: Orcs, Goblins, Ogres

Obviously there may well be some crossover

If the rules are in fact good and simple, it should be easy to make rules up for the old figures /armies

I do hope there are going to be some elves in there somewhere!!!.....

**Death By Monkeys**

Heroes and their entourages?

The more things change, the more they stay the same. I'm reminded of the old Realm of Chaos Warbands rules.

**JohnHwangDD**

all models from the old Warhammer Fantasy armybooks will receive new rules and can be used in the new game.

See? No problem here. GW is actually introducing a new army of Sigmar. :nods:

**ShaneTB**

GW stores will be demoing the game on Saturday.

**Avrik_Shasla**

Wasn't it confirmed though that Warhammer Fantasy battles still exists and this is just another Fantasy themed game?

**Yodhrin**

gorgon wrote:
jah-joshua wrote:
i just don't get why people would let themselves get so worked up over some fiction, and the names of imaginary things and characters...

For some folks, it's not about the actual details so much as the company that created those details.

Personally, I think AoS seems to be at least an attempt to address many common complaints about WFB, including high model counts, stale fluff, lack of a good starter army, too much grim dark, etc.

If you're a vet who only wanted 9th edition to be a steadfast tweak and some magic fixes, then this probably isn't what you're looking for. But it sounds as though you'll still be able to play the new game with some or all of your existing models.

Where exactly are the bolded complaints "common"? High model counts, sure, lack of an easy entry point, certainly, prices of some boxes, absolutely, but outside of the same handful of people here on Dakka I've never once heard or read anyone asking GW to obliterate the existing setting or complain that it was too gritty. Indeed, quite the reverse; when I did see people wishing the fluff would advance it was exactly because they were fond of the Warhammer World, it's factions, and its characters and wanted to see them evolve a little, and when issues were mentioned regarding the grimness of the aesthetic or fluff it was usually to lament the recent trend in cartoonifying the models and making the background less about grim struggle and more about all-conquering super-awesumz mega-heros.

If the rules actually are free I'll have a go and see what they're like, but if they're good and you really can keep using the existing models it will only serve to reinforce how daft GW were to cack all over their existing IP when they could have achieved the same result without alienating a lot of folk.

**streamdragon**

ShaneTB wrote:
GW stores will be demoing the game on Saturday.

I may have to drive the hour to my nearest store to see what's up. I'll read the rules when they go up online, and see what I can do with my skaven, but I'm not really holding my breath on this one. If they're really trying to town down the game's complexity (and the rules weighing in at 4 pages says, to me at least, that they are), I'm not certain how well legacy armies will transition or even be supported going forward.

Still, fingers crossed.

**lord_blackfang**

Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Wasn't it confirmed though that Warhammer Fantasy battles still exists and this is just another Fantasy themed game?

Considering all the WHFB rules materials got pulled, that is clearly not the case.

**Red Corsair**

namiel wrote:

pretty much. I heard order, disorder, chaos, undead. So yeah

Fething seriously?! Disorder and Chaos are seperate concepts to GW? Bwahahaha

**Boss Salvage**

Red Corsair wrote:
namiel wrote:

pretty much. I heard order, disorder, chaos, undead. So yeah

Fething seriously?! Disorder and Chaos are seperate concepts to GW? Bwahahaha

Coming Fall 2016: New Age of Sigmar 'Entropy' Faction

- Salvage

**Avrik_Shasla**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Wasn't it confirmed though that Warhammer Fantasy battles still exists and this is just another Fantasy themed game?

Considering all the WHFB rules materials got pulled, that is clearly not the case.

Maybe because they are releasing the 9th edition 6 faction books?