Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan

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**H.B.M.C.**

That Tau pic is great. The inclusion of the "demons" keyword is a nice little nod to the WTF way that Lizardmen are all demons in AoS.

**nettraper**

super excited for a free software to build armies, sucks for Army Builder crew ! nothing beats good ole fashioned pen and paper imho

**Plumbumbarum**

MLaw wrote:
Some people are whining about really silly things tbh. The newer pictures haven't been circulating that long and I'm just now seeing them today (social life.. I know). The images in the store honestly do have me feeling better about the Sigmarines.

I primarily play with my son.. so I really don't feel that bad about this release. If I was still more of a tournament player, yeah.. this is definitely not something I could see for that... but my son has a hard time against me and maybe a ruleset where he can just pile on whatever he wants is what we need for him to be able to enjoy the game.. whatever.. I'm in this to collect models, push those models around, and have a bit of fun. I don't see anything so far to make me feel like I would be unable to have fun playing this ruleset. What I do see is that playing this from a WAAC standpoint would be nerve-wracking.. and I am laughing quietly about that to myself.

Sure except for the fact that it's a "waac" paradise. If that mythicals baby seals clubbing waac took interest in this, he/ she could make your favourite models pushing game into an exercise in picking up minis with speed never seen on whfb tables.

**MLaw**

Plumbumbarum wrote:
MLaw wrote:
Some people are whining about really silly things tbh. The newer pictures haven't been circulating that long and I'm just now seeing them today (social life.. I know). The images in the store honestly do have me feeling better about the Sigmarines.

I primarily play with my son.. so I really don't feel that bad about this release. If I was still more of a tournament player, yeah.. this is definitely not something I could see for that... but my son has a hard time against me and maybe a ruleset where he can just pile on whatever he wants is what we need for him to be able to enjoy the game.. whatever.. I'm in this to collect models, push those models around, and have a bit of fun. I don't see anything so far to make me feel like I would be unable to have fun playing this ruleset. What I do see is that playing this from a WAAC standpoint would be nerve-wracking.. and I am laughing quietly about that to myself.

Sure except for the fact that it's a "waac" paradise. If that mythicals baby seals clubbing waac took interest in this, he/ she could make your favourite models pushing game into an exercise in picking up minis with speed never seen on whfb tables.

Yeah, when I was in the tournament scene I gamed with Ironfist League guys on the east coast.. all of them are WAAC and all of them are very proud of that. Thanks for implying that I'm full of crap though! Very classy

As to your scenario.. I don't play against people like that but.. in that environment, I believe each side would be doing the exact same thing.. so it would be a matter of setting up your stuff then packing it back up.. Or.. as I like to call it, a drawn out game of rock paper scissors.

**Motograter**

nettraper wrote:
super excited for a free software to build armies, sucks for Army Builder crew ! nothing beats good ole fashioned pen and paper imho

It may not be free. There was a rumour that this may be a pay monthly thing

**Schmapdi**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
The inclusion of the "demons" keyword is a nice little nod to the WTF way that Lizardmen are all demons in AoS.

Wait, what?!?!

**nettraper**

hmmm interesting! question is maybe how much would it cost, and to take a jab , I wonder how many "buy" here buttons will be on each model when you add it to your "list".

This app has a lot of potential , yet another thing to look forward to!

On a side note I guess I learned something new today with abbreviation WAAC, did not think there was a term for it but those are the guys that I usually randomly meet when I try and find a pickup game, and believe me after that I usually drop the hobby for a few months until I regain my interest

They leave my hobby-feelings very damaged.

**pretre**

Motograter wrote:
nettraper wrote:
super excited for a free software to build armies, sucks for Army Builder crew ! nothing beats good ole fashioned pen and paper imho

It may not be free. There was a rumour that this may be a pay monthly thing

The announcement says free.

**Xyxox**

Schmapdi wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
The inclusion of the "demons" keyword is a nice little nod to the WTF way that Lizardmen are all demons in AoS.

Wait, what?!?!

Check out the keywords on most of the standard Lizardman units in the Warscroll:

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-lizardmen-en.pdf

**Watching Paint Dry**

Eldarain wrote:
The army builder is very intriguing for a game you don't currently write lists for.

Is it just me or does this seem a bit rushed? I mean, send out an email saying to install the warhammer app so you can find out when another app is released? Why not just send out an email saying to the same distribution saying its released?

For a launch of this size it seems a little odd.

Conspiracy theories:
1. rushed the announcement to quell the nerd-rage for no points on the warscrolls
2. app wasn't ready when it was supposed to be, but want to let people know something is coming
3. nothing to see here, just making sure everybody has the warhammer app
4. ??

**Xyxox**

pretre wrote:
Motograter wrote:
nettraper wrote:
super excited for a free software to build armies, sucks for Army Builder crew ! nothing beats good ole fashioned pen and paper imho

It may not be free. There was a rumour that this may be a pay monthly thing

The announcement says free.

Sure, the app is free.

**Avrik_Shasla**

Psychopomp wrote:
Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:
I still want the baby demigryph.

I won't be happy until I can run them as a unit.

Well then, here ya go!

Baby Demigryph Pack

Wounds: 1; Move: 6"; Save: 4+; Bravery: 7

Melee Weapons

Razor Sharp Beaks and Claws
Range: 1"; Attacks: 2; To Hit: 4+; To Wound: 4+; Rend: 1; Damage: 1

Description:
A unit of Baby Demigryph Pack may have any number of models. They are armed with Razor Sharp Beaks and Claws.

Baby Demigryph Alpha:
The leader of this unit is a Baby Demigryph Alpha. It makes 3 attacks instead of 2.

Abilities:

Disarmingly Cute:
Each time a model in this unit hits, if you flap your arms like wings and make baby chick noises while spinning in circles with your pants around your ankles, you may cause D6 Mortal Wounds instead of making the normal To Wound roll. If you weren't wearing underpants when you drop your pants and manage to avoid arrest for Indecent Exposure, you may cause 6D6 Mortal Wounds instead.

Exalted.

**Grimtuff**

pretre wrote:
Motograter wrote:
nettraper wrote:
super excited for a free software to build armies, sucks for Army Builder crew ! nothing beats good ole fashioned pen and paper imho

It may not be free. There was a rumour that this may be a pay monthly thing

The announcement says free.

Freemium isn't free

**Wonderwolf**

Grimtuff wrote:

Freemium isn't free

Then it probably isn't Freemium. Just free. And rumours are wrong again.

**lord_blackfang**

Schmapdi wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
The inclusion of the "demons" keyword is a nice little nod to the WTF way that Lizardmen are all demons in AoS.

Wait, what?!?!

Lizardmen are Daemons of Order.

**Avrik_Shasla**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Grimtuff wrote:

Freemium isn't free

Then it probably isn't Freemium. Just free. And rumours are wrong again.

I'm just sitting here laughing, cause everyone was SO set on believing the rumors, and I was the hopeful one...and I am right .

**Watching Paint Dry**

Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Wonderwolf wrote:
Grimtuff wrote:

Freemium isn't free

Then it probably isn't Freemium. Just free. And rumours are wrong again.

I'm just sitting here laughing, cause everyone was SO set on believing the rumors, and I was the hopeful one...and I am right .

The picture isn't totally clear, but there's a menu at the bottom that appears to say:
Home
Books
Warscrolls
Files

Maybe the books thing links you to campaign books you buy, but the warscrolls are free?

The email text says:

Play with the free rules

Access every Warscroll

Build an army with the 'My Battle' tool

**pretre**

Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Wonderwolf wrote:
Grimtuff wrote:

Freemium isn't free

Then it probably isn't Freemium. Just free. And rumours are wrong again.

I'm just sitting here laughing, cause everyone was SO set on believing the rumors, and I was the hopeful one...and I am right .

Rumors for anything AoS have been almost universally wrong, so I wouldn't be surprised.

**Motograter**

I missed the free bit. Though as it is GW the basic thing might be free but we`ll need to pay for the "extra`s"

**Plumbumbarum**

MLaw wrote:
Plumbumbarum wrote:
MLaw wrote:
Some people are whining about really silly things tbh. The newer pictures haven't been circulating that long and I'm just now seeing them today (social life.. I know). The images in the store honestly do have me feeling better about the Sigmarines.

I primarily play with my son.. so I really don't feel that bad about this release. If I was still more of a tournament player, yeah.. this is definitely not something I could see for that... but my son has a hard time against me and maybe a ruleset where he can just pile on whatever he wants is what we need for him to be able to enjoy the game.. whatever.. I'm in this to collect models, push those models around, and have a bit of fun. I don't see anything so far to make me feel like I would be unable to have fun playing this ruleset. What I do see is that playing this from a WAAC standpoint would be nerve-wracking.. and I am laughing quietly about that to myself.

Sure except for the fact that it's a "waac" paradise. If that mythicals baby seals clubbing waac took interest in this, he/ she could make your favourite models pushing game into an exercise in picking up minis with speed never seen on whfb tables.

Yeah, when I was in the tournament scene I gamed with Ironfist League guys on the east coast.. all of them are WAAC and all of them are very proud of that. Thanks for implying that I'm full of crap though! Very classy
As to your scenario.. I don't play against people like that but.. in that environment, I believe each side would be doing the exact same thing.. so it would be a matter of setting up your stuff then packing it back up.. Or.. as I like to call it, a drawn out game of rock paper scissors.

Waac is a meaningless term no matter who uses it, nothing to do with you being full of crap. If someone adopted it to describe himself for some reason, it still doesnt give it meaning on a large scale. Some people write efficient lists and value the list building part more than others.

Though the most waac are the guys who cry waac because if they didnt want to waac, they wouldnt cry waac. See I can do it too.

I was just pointing out that this system is infinitely more break-prone that old whfb and the only thing that makes it "narrative" is that players who value more serious competitions will migrate to other systems or play oldhammer.

**Manchu**

If AoS is more prone to being broken than 8th, then surely WAAC players should like it more? Or are we saying WAAC players prefer more of a challenge (from the system, that is; not necessarily their human opponents)?

**judgedoug**

guru wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
EXCLUSIVE

WDW077-60 WHITE DWARF WEEKLY 77 (ENGLISH) White Dwarf 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 4
80-02-60 WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK (ENGLISH) Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 74
80-02-01 WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK (FRENCH) Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 74
96-10 STORMCAST ETERNALS LIBERATORS Plastic Box 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 50
96-15 STORMCAST ETERNALS LORD-CELESTANT Plastic Clam 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 33
65-10 AGE OF SIGMAR COMBAT GAUGE Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 33
65-12 STORMCAST ETERNALS DICE SHAKER Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 40
65-13 KHORNE BLOODBOUND DICE SHAKER Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 40
- WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK LIMITED ED Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 130

prices are in CAD?

USD. Also have CAD prices

WDW077-60 WHITE DWARF WEEKLY 77 (ENGLISH) White Dwarf 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 5
80-02-60 WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK (ENGLISH) Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 90
80-02-01 WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK (FRENCH) Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 90
96-10 STORMCAST ETERNALS LIBERATORS Plastic Box 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 60
96-15 STORMCAST ETERNALS LORD-CELESTANT Plastic Clam 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 40
65-10 AGE OF SIGMAR COMBAT GAUGE Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 40
65-12 STORMCAST ETERNALS DICE SHAKER Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 50
65-13 KHORNE BLOODBOUND DICE SHAKER Hobby Product 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 50
- WARHAMMER: AGE OF SIGMAR BOOK LIMITED ED Other Book 11-Jul-15 18-Jul-15 160

btw the limited edition is direct only (hence no orderable sku)

**Plumbumbarum**

Manchu wrote:
If AoS is more prone to being broken than 8th, then surely WAAC players should like it more? Or are we saying WAAC players prefer more of a challenge (from the system, that is; not necessarily their human opponents)?

I think people get labeled waac if only they dare to treat the game more serious and those probably wont play Age of Simple in its current form. For that mythical waac who arrogantly clubs baby seals and would love to invest in AoS just for the abuse potential, never met or heard about anyone like that older than 12 years old.

**Albino Squirrel**

Plumbumbarum wrote:
...the only thing that makes it "narrative" is that players who value more serious competitions will migrate to other systems or play oldhammer.

I suppose that is one major benefit of Age of Sigmar. But I'm not sure it will actually happen. Seems like some people will to go great lengths to invent a way to use it in tournaments instead of just playing something else.

**Necros**

The app sounds cool, I imagine they'd make that free along with the warscrolls, but you'll have to buy the electronic versions of the campaign books and then it'll link em to the app for easy access and stuff.

still on the fence about getting the box set. I like the models but with the amt of stuff on my nerd table I doubt I'll ever get around to painting em.. and I feel funny playing with nekkid models. Also kinda wondering if the squad box versions of them will be more posable, kinda like space marines with separate torsos and bodies... since the starter models are usually more monopose than the rest?

**mikhaila**

Melissia wrote:
That statue needs more detailing.

Pigeons will take care of that. Nice white highlights.

**Xyxox**

mikhaila wrote:
Melissia wrote:
That statue needs more detailing.

Pigeons will take care of that. Nice white highlights.

There are no spiky bits to discourage climbing it, so I expect an orange cone hat at some point in the not too distant future.

**Avrik_Shasla**

Much excitement to be had with all these releases none the less. Games Workshop has the power to dominate the market, they just need to make the right decisions. So far, so good.

**SilverDevilfish**

Manchu wrote:
If AoS is more prone to being broken than 8th, then surely WAAC players should like it more? Or are we saying WAAC players prefer more of a challenge (from the system, that is; not necessarily their human opponents)?

Eh, WAAC is a bastardized thing nowadays. It's basically a generic insult that means "you play the game at a higher level than I am comfortable with, so I'm going to shun you and call you names".

Honestly I'm surprised the term LCD hasn't been used to counter people who use it frequently.

**The Division Of Joy**

An app that's free to download, and contains a small amount of free stuff. But then charges to download full rules packs? They'll be some WM players picking their words carefully, some might even have to stop the memes for a bit.